Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Grundle2600/Archive#09 November 2014

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Summary

Grundle2600 (banned) = Captain Lance Murdoch = You sunk my battleship! (banned) = 96.235.53.18 = Magnum! This is all your fault!
based on:

• Precocious edit history
• Editing identical articles, making identical edits
• Chronology of edits
• Identical writing/editing styles

Details (chronological by sockpuppet)

Grundle2600 - sanctions

• WP:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive607#Request to modify my topic ban – banned indefinitely from Wikipedia, April 8, 2010
• User talk:Grundle2600#Request to be blocked for three months instead of my current indefinite block and ban. – request declined, April 11, 2010
• User talk:Grundle2600#For the record, here's the email that I just sent to arb-com – April 17, 2010

Captain Lance Murdoch

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Captain+Lance+Murdoch 13:52, 22 April 2010] Captain Lance Murdoch (talk | contribs) new user account
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Captain_Lance_Murdoch&action=history 13:54, 22 April 2010] N User talk:Captain Lance Murdoch – Captain Lance Murdoch (←Created page with 'Hi there!')
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Captain_Lance_Murdoch&action=history 13:55, 22 April 2010] N User:Captain Lance Murdoch – Captain Lance Murdoch (←Created page with 'Hi there!')

: Talk:Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=353950996 18:53, 4 April 2010] WP:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive607#Request to modify my topic ban – Grundle2600 (→Request to modify my topic ban: new section)

I am asking that my topic ban be modified specifically and exclusively so that I may be allowed to make suggestions at Talk:Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. I am only asking to be allowed to edit that article's talk page - not the article itself. And I am only asking to be allowed to edit that one particular talk page - not any other talk pages.

I believe that such a modification to my topic ban will give me a chance to prove that I am capable of making constructive suggestions at a talk page for this topic. This would give everyone a chance to see that I have become a better editor in this topic area, without putting any of the articles at risk.

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act&diff=357621439 13:56, 22 April 2010] Talk:Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act – Captain Lance Murdoch (→Senate votes 57-42 against amendment that would have prohibited federal funding of Viagra for convicted rapists and child molesters.: new section)

:Wikipedia:Neutral point of view states, …

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Political_positions_of_Barack_Obama&diff=315743142 17:17, 23 September 2009] Talk:Political positions of Barack Obama – Grundle2600(→This article is unbalanced.: new section)

Wikipedia:Neutral point of view states, "All Wikipedia articles and other encyclopedic content must be written from a neutral point of view, representing fairly, and as far as possible without bias, all significant views that have been published by reliable sources. This is non-negotiable and expected of all articles, and of all article editors."

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=315743358 17:19, 23 September 2009] Talk:Presidency of Barack Obama – Grundle2600 (→This article is unbalanced.: new section)

Wikipedia:Neutral point of view states, "All Wikipedia articles and other encyclopedic content must be written from a neutral point of view, representing fairly, and as far as possible without bias, all significant views that have been published by reliable sources. This is non-negotiable and expected of all articles, and of all article editors."

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tea_Party_protests&diff=357623855 14:13, 22 April 2010] Talk:Tea Party protests – Captain Lance Murdoch (→Breitbart offers to donate $ for video evidence of slurs)

  I'd like to remind everyone here that NPOV states, "All Wikipedia articles must be written from a neutral point of view, representing fairly, proportionately, and as far as possible without bias, all significant views that have been published by reliable sources. This is non-negotiable and expected of all articles and all editors." Therfore, any and all well sourced points of view must be included.

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Tea_Party_protests&diff=357651569 16:57, 22 April 2010] Talk:Tea Party protests – Captain Lance Murdoch (→Breitbart offers to donate $ for video evidence of slurs)

  NPOV states, "All Wikipedia articles must be written from a neutral point of view, representing fairly, proportionately, and as far as possible without bias, all significant views that have been published by reliable sources. This is non-negotiable and expected of all articles and all editors."

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories&diff=357735339 01:10, 23 April 2010] Talk:Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories – Captain Lance Murdoch (→Article has weasel words: new section)

:GM bailout

:* 15:52, 25 September 2009 – Grundle2600's 3 month topic ban expires

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=316152434 16:51, 25 September 2009] Presidency of Barack Obama – Grundle2600 (→Economy: Auto bailout - these aspects are notable, because they are so rare, and unprecedented during peacetime)

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=319515490 22:43, 12 October 2009] Presidency of Barack Obama – Grundle2600 (updating article with current info as discussed on talk page and talk page archive)

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=320897442 23:01, 19 October 2009] Presidency of Barack Obama – Grundle2600 (Undid revision 319522448 by PhGustaf (talk) Please see talk page section, "Saying 'nope' is not a legitimate reason to remove...")

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=357736218 01:15, 23 April 2010] Presidency of Barack Obama – Captain Lance Murdoch (→Economy: auto bailout)
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=357750842 02:54, 23 April 2010] Presidency of Barack Obama – Captain Lance Murdoch (Undid revision 357737026 by DD2K (talk)These are objective, well sourced facts. Improve if you can, but don't delete.)

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=357885855 20:01, 23 April 2010] Presidency of Barack Obama – You sunk my battleship! (→Economy: adding reliable sources on GM - this has been in the news constantly for a year - it deserves one sentence in this article)

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=358083565 21:27, 24 April 2010] Presidency of Barack Obama – You sunk my battleship! (→Economy: As suggested, I am "trying again." I have rewritten it to be more neutral, and am only citing one source.)

:User:Grundle2600

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AGrundle2600&diff=358978267 02:47, 29 April 2010] User:Grundle2600 – You sunk my battleship! (add collapse template for banned user's info)

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User%3AYou+sunk+my+battleship%21 03:38, 29 April 2010] TenOfAllTrades (talk | contribs) blocked You sunk my battleship! (talk | contribs) (account creation blocked) with an expiry time of indefinite ‎ (Abusing multiple accounts: Creating a new login to edit banned users' user pages is not an appropriate use of an alternate account.)

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Grundle2600&diff=359026204 09:37, 29 April 2010] User:Grundle2600 – Captain Lance Murdoch (Revert vandalism)
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Grundle2600&diff=359072019 15:20, 29 April 2010] User:Grundle2600 – Captain Lance Murdoch (Resotring banned user's personal info to banned user's user page. Let's not get all Orwellian and pretend that the banned user never existed.)

You sunk my battleship!

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=You+sunk+my+battleship%21 19:18, 23 April 2010] You sunk my battleship! (talk | contribs) new user account ‎
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:You_sunk_my_battleship!&diff=357877978 19:18, 23 April 2010] N User:You sunk my battleship! (←Created page with 'test')
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:You_sunk_my_battleship!&diff=357878563 19:21, 23 April 2010] User:You sunk my battleship! I am a new editor who is learning how to edit. This is my account. Please do not delete it.
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:You_sunk_my_battleship!&diff=357878811 19:23, 23 April 2010] User talk:You sunk my battleship! I am a new editor who is learning how to edit. This is my account. Please do not delete it.

:GM bailout

:* 15:52, 25 September 2009 – Grundle2600's 3 month topic ban expires

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=316152434 16:51, 25 September 2009] Presidency of Barack Obama – Grundle2600 (→Economy: Auto bailout - these aspects are notable, because they are so rare, and unprecedented during peacetime)

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=319515490 22:43, 12 October 2009] Presidency of Barack Obama – Grundle2600 (updating article with current info as discussed on talk page and talk page archive)

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=320897442 23:01, 19 October 2009] Presidency of Barack Obama – Grundle2600 (Undid revision 319522448 by PhGustaf (talk) Please see talk page section, "Saying 'nope' is not a legitimate reason to remove...")

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=357736218 01:15, 23 April 2010] Presidency of Barack Obama – Captain Lance Murdoch (→Economy: auto bailout)

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=357750842 02:54, 23 April 2010] Presidency of Barack Obama – Captain Lance Murdoch (Undid revision 357737026 by DD2K (talk)These are objective, well sourced facts. Improve if you can, but don't delete.)

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:You_sunk_my_battleship!/sandbox&diff=357882020 19:41, 23 April 2010] N User:You sunk my battleship!/sandbox – You sunk my battleship! (←Created page with 'In 2009, Obama had the government take 60.8% ownership of General Motors. ...')
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=357885855 20:01, 23 April 2010] Presidency of Barack Obama – You sunk my battleship! (→Economy: adding reliable sources on GM - this has been in the news constantly for a year - it deserves one sentence in this article)

  In 2009, Obama had the government take 60.8% ownership of General Motors.^{[125][126][127][128][129][130][131][132][133][134][135][136][137][138][139][140][141][142][143][144][145][146][147]}

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Edwards_sex_tape&diff=357972885 06:52, 24 April 2010] N John Edwards sex tape (←Created page with 'The John Edwards sex tape is an alleged celebrity sex tape featuring former U.S. Senator and vice presidential candidate John Edwards and his mistress...')
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=358014116 13:42, 24 April 2010] Talk:Presidency of Barack Obama – You sunk my battleship! (→It should say Obama had the government take 60.8% ownership of General Motors: new section)

  Another editor erased it and commented "try again."
  Seems to me that "try again" could lead to edit war, which seems to be against policy. So like it says in the rules, I'm taking it to the talk page.
  As I said in my comment, this has been in the media constantly for a year. It's also notable because this kind of nationalization of privately owned industry by the U.S. government during peacetime (FDR did it to convert manufacturing facilities for use in World War II, but that's totally different) is unprecedented in the U.S.

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=358043476 17:11, 24 April 2010] Talk:Presidency of Barack Obama – Newross (→It should say Obama had the government take 60.8% ownership of General Motors: You sunk my battleship! is an obvious WP:SOCK of Grundle2600)

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kevin_Jennings&action=historysubmit&diff=358080973 21:10, 24 April 2010] Kevin Jennings – 96.235.53.18 (Illegal drug use by the Assistant Deputy Secretary for the Office of Safe and Drug-Free Schools)

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:You_sunk_my_battleship!/sandbox&diff=358083083 21:24, 24 April 2010] User:You sunk my battleship!/sandbox – You sunk my battleship! (←Replaced content with 'In 2009, during the bailout of General Motors, Obama reluctantly had the U.S. government take ownership of 60% of the company in order to protect the ta...')
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=358083565 21:27, 24 April 2010] Presidency of Barack Obama – You sunk my battleship! (→Economy: As suggested, I am "trying again." I have rewritten it to be more neutral, and am only citing one source.)
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=358083811 21:28, 24 April 2010] Talk:Presidency of Barack Obama – You sunk my battleship! (→It should say Obama had the government take 60.8% ownership of General Motors)

  I see on your talk page that this "Grundle2600" has accused you of multiple violations of an ARB-COM ruling.

:Obama Zombies: How the Liberal Machine Brainwashed My Generation

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Obama_Zombies%3A_How_the_Liberal_Machine_Brainwashed_My_Generation&diff=358384913 11:13, 26 April 2010] N Obama Zombies: How the Liberal Machine Brainwashed My Generation – Magnum! This is all your fault! (←Created page with '{{infobox Book | name = Obama Zombies: How the Liberal Machine Brainwashed My Generation | title_orig = | translator = | image = | image_...')

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Barack_Obama&diff=358914341 20:24, 28 April 2010] Template:Barack Obama – You sunk my battleship! (add book) Obama Zombies

:User:Grundle2600

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AGrundle2600&diff=358978267 02:47, 29 April 2010] User:Grundle2600 – You sunk my battleship! (add collapse template for banned user's info)
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User%3AYou+sunk+my+battleship%21 03:38, 29 April 2010] TenOfAllTrades (talk | contribs) blocked You sunk my battleship! (talk | contribs) (account creation blocked) with an expiry time of indefinite ‎ (Abusing multiple accounts: Creating a new login to edit banned users' user pages is not an appropriate use of an alternate account.)

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Grundle2600&diff=359026204 09:37, 29 April 2010] User:Grundle2600 – Captain Lance Murdoch (Revert vandalism)

96.235.53.18

:Kevin Jennings teenage alcohol and marijuana use

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AKevin_Jennings&diff=315904526 12:55, 24 September 2009] Talk:Kevin Jennings – Grundle2600 (→Jennings often got drunk and stoned during his high school years.: new section)

:* 15:52, 25 September 2009 – Grundle2600's 3 month topic ban expires

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kevin_Jennings&action=historysubmit&diff=314727084 18:03, 25 September 2009] Kevin Jennings – Grundle2600 (Given his job, his past illegal drug use and underage alcohol use is highly notable.)

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kevin_Jennings&diff=319422466 14:05, 12 October 2009] Kevin Jennings – Newross (→Office of Safe and Drug Free Schools director: rewrite paragraph about Christian right criticism, support by Education Dept., White House, NEA, NASSP; rm outdated, inaccurate, unreliable sources)

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Newross&diff=333720061 03:36, 24 December 2009] User talk:Newross – Grundle2600 (→Please don't delete relevant information from reliable sources.)

In [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kevin_Jennings&action=historysubmit&diff=319422466&oldid=319420669 this] edit to the Kevin Jennings article, you removed the information about Jennings' admission in his autobiography that he had a past history of illegal drug use.

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Newross&diff=333754685 06:42, 24 December 2009] User talk:Newross – Grundle2600 (→Please don't delete relevant information from reliable sources.)

I would like to point out [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Hkelkar#Removal_of_sourced_edits_made_in_a_neutral_narrative_is_disruptive this] ARBCOM ruling

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=358014116 13:42, 24 April 2010] Talk:Presidency of Barack Obama – You sunk my battleship! (→It should say Obama had the government take 60.8% ownership of General Motors: new section)

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=358043476 17:11, 24 April 2010] Talk:Presidency of Barack Obama – Newross (→It should say Obama had the government take 60.8% ownership of General Motors: You sunk my battleship! is an obvious WP:SOCK of Grundle2600)

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kevin_Jennings&action=historysubmit&diff=358080973 21:10, 24 April 2010] Kevin Jennings – 96.235.53.18 (Illegal drug use by the Assistant Deputy Secretary for the Office of Safe and Drug-Free Schools)

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:You_sunk_my_battleship!/sandbox&diff=358083083 21:24, 24 April 2010] User:You sunk my battleship!/sandbox – You sunk my battleship! (←Replaced content with 'In 2009, during the bailout of General Motors, Obama reluctantly had the U.S. government take ownership of 60% of the company in order to protect the ta...')

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=358083565 21:27, 24 April 2010] Presidency of Barack Obama – You sunk my battleship! (→Economy: As suggested, I am "trying again." I have rewritten it to be more neutral, and am only citing one source.)

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=358083811 21:28, 24 April 2010] Talk:Presidency of Barack Obama – You sunk my battleship! (→It should say Obama had the government take 60.8% ownership of General Motors)

I see on your talk page that this "Grundle2600" has accused you of multiple violations of an ARB-COM ruling.

Magnum! This is all your fault!

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Magnum%21+This+is+all+your+fault%21 10:24, 26 April 2010] Magnum! This is all your fault! (talk | contribs) new user account ‎
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Magnum!_This_is_all_your_fault!&diff=358380726 10:32, 26 April 2010] N User:Magnum! This is all your fault! – Magnum! This is all your fault! (←Created page with '.')
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Magnum!_This_is_all_your_fault!&diff=358380745 10:32, 26 April 2010] N User talk:Magnum! This is all your fault! – Magnum! This is all your fault! (←Created page with '.')
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories&diff=358380964 10:34, 26 April 2010] Talk:Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories – Magnum! This is all your fault! (→Hawaii birth certificate issue description)
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Obama_Zombies%3A_How_the_Liberal_Machine_Brainwashed_My_Generation&diff=358384913 11:13, 26 April 2010] N Obama Zombies: How the Liberal Machine Brainwashed My Generation – Magnum! This is all your fault! (←Created page with '{{infobox Book | name = Obama Zombies: How the Liberal Machine Brainwashed My Generation | title_orig = | translator = | image = | image_...')

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Barack_Obama&diff=358914341 20:24, 28 April 2010] Template:Barack Obama – You sunk my battleship! (add book) add link to Obama Zombies

:"buy American"

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Public_image_of_Barack_Obama&diff=292228034 14:19, 25 May 2009] Public image of Barack Obama – Grundle2600 (→Around the world: Obama's perceived effect on lending, investing, and international trade)

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Public_image_of_Barack_Obama&diff=292264440 17:53, 25 May 2009] Public image of Barack Obama – Grundle2600 (→Around the world: That's a personal attack, not a reason for reversion. What's wrong with showing that not all international opinionof of Obama is positive? Why can)

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Public_image_of_Barack_Obama&diff=358387569 11:35, 26 April 2010] Public image of Barack Obama – Magnum! This is all your fault! (→Around the world: This section wrongly implies that all worldwide opinion of Obama is positive. Surely some negative worldwide opinion can be allowed in the article.)

:Communist support

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Public_image_of_Barack_Obama&diff=289109941 18:59, 10 May 2009] Public image of Barack Obama – Grundle2600 (Communist support)

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Public_image_of_Barack_Obama&diff=289123842 20:23, 10 May 2009] Public image of Barack Obama – Grundle2600 (To remove the section on communist support ,but not the section on conservative support, violates NPOV.)

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Public_image_of_Barack_Obama&diff=358388184 11:40, 26 April 2010] Public image of Barack Obama – Magnum! This is all your fault! (→Conservative support in 2008 elections: add more support)
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Public_image_of_Barack_Obama&diff=358453686 18:03, 26 April 2010] Public image of Barack Obama – Magnum! This is all your fault! ("Paranoid" is a matter of opinion. Regarding the other edit, OK, we don't need a "positive" and "negative" section, but the info is still relevant, and the section shouldn't be just positive.)

:Health insurance

:* 15:52, 25 September 2009 – Grundle2600's 3 month topic ban expires

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_positions_of_Barack_Obama&diff=316147380 16:23, 25 September 2009] Political positions of Barack Obama Grundle2600 (→Health care: add Obama quote about private health insurance)

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_positions_of_Barack_Obama&diff=316321793 15:51, 26 September 2009] Political positions of Barack Obama – Grundle2600 (Politico, Breitbart, and Reason are all reliable source. Please see talk page. I am also adding San Fancisco Bay Times as a source too.)

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_positions_of_Barack_Obama&diff=318136886 22:09, 5 October 2009] Political positions of Barack Obama – Grundle2600 (→Health care: Added quote. Please see talk page section titled "Politico and Breitbart are reliable sources.")

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Political_positions_of_Barack_Obama&diff=319544483 02:01, 13 October 2009] Political positions of Barack Obama – Grundle2600 (Adding a small amount of relevant, well sourced info about Obama's positions on health care and medical marijuana. Please see talk page.)

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Barack_Obama_economic_policy&diff=358456106 18:14, 26 April 2010] Barack Obama economic policy – Magnum! This is all your fault! (→Health care: adding positions on private insurance)

:Helen Thomas

:* 15:52, 25 September 2009 – Grundle2600's 3 month topic ban expires

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=316153483 16:57, 25 September 2009] Presidency of Barack Obama – Grundle2600 (→Transparency: Administration's refusal to adequately explain dismissal of chagres against New Black Panther Party; coment from Helen Thomas about lack of transparency)

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=316159281 17:31, 25 September 2009] Presidency of Barack Obama – Grundle2600 (Undid revision 316158225 by Splette (talk)I did discuss this on the talk page. Your claim that I did not discuss it is inexcusable.)

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=319515490 22:43, 12 October 2009] Presidency of Barack Obama – Grundle2600 (updating article with current info as discussed on talk page and talk page archive)

:* [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=320897442 23:01, 19 October 2009] Presidency of Barack Obama – Grundle2600 (Undid revision 319522448 by PhGustaf (talk) Please see talk page section, "Saying 'nope' is not a legitimate reason to remove...")

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=358884892 17:48, 28 April 2010] Presidency of Barack Obama – Magnum! This is all your fault! (→Transparency: White House veteran reporter Helen Thomas quote)
  

Newross (talk) 01:07, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

• {{user|Rabbit Seasoning}}

Gerald Walpin was an early and frequent target of Grundle's particular brand of POV-pushing. The Rabbit account was created 20:24, 29 April 2010, and it was already hitting the Walpin article by 02:02, 1 May 2010. The red flag is [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gerald_Walpin&diff=prev&oldid=359393994 this edit], a paragraph rejected on the article talk page and addressed at AN/I where Grundle received his initial topic-ban. This same paragraph of information was previously introduced to the article [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gerald_Walpin&diff=316150242&oldid=315740904 here], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gerald_Walpin&diff=317531220&oldid=316232948 here], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gerald_Walpin&diff=318107768&oldid=317535977 here] by Grundle. Tarc (talk) 13:27, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Addendum; User_talk:Tarc#Hi_Tarc.21. Tarc (talk) 01:41, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

See Defending yourself against claims.

This investigation looks like a witch hunt, the violation seems clear but it is in no way egregious. Also, I have the suspicion that the previous poster was an impersonator, I guess we'll find out soon enough. --William S. Saturn (talk) 23:25, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Grundle is a regular poster at the DVD Talk forum, and often talks about his alleged persecution on Wikipedia, including this investigation. In the course of the discussion, he admitted the charges were accurate. See this thread

[http://forum.dvdtalk.com/other-talk/573175-since-wikipedia-banned-me-ive-been-accused-sock-puppetry.html], in particular post 21. Seantrinityohara (talk) 17:35, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

I came here to start a case on Grundle and {{u|Rabbit Seasoning}}, surprised to see that there was already an extensive case begun on other possible socks. I assume it is proper to simply add additional possibilities to an existing case rather than a new one, so an evidence section shall follow shortly. Tarc (talk) 13:11, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

:These are undoubtedly the same person based upon, if nothing else, the peculiarities of the first several edits of each of them (per WP:BEANS I will not list them here, but experienced sock hunters will recognize an easy-to-spot signature). Even if they are not Grundle2600, they are the same person. They may very well be Grundle2600 based on their specific interest, but there are also several other editors, now banned, who could fit this mold. --Jayron32 01:05, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

• Just had a quick glance at these, and my first thought was that it looked a bit like {{userlinks|Multiplyperfect}}. -- Scjessey (talk) 22:54, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
• Yea, but User_talk:Tarc#Hi_Tarc.21. That is Grundle to a T. Tarc (talk) 00:10, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
• If it's not Grundle, it's somebody doing a very good Grundle impression, and occasionally being funny at it. But he's wasting a lot of people's time, and angling for a longer ban than indef. I briefly suspected another banned user, but he's having his own sock problems right now. PhGustaf (talk) 00:34, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

{{RFCU| E | No2ndletter | Checked

}}    Requested by Newross (talk) 01:07, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

{{Endorse}} Actually seems quite DUCKY, but awfully complex. Maybe a CU will cut through this like a hot knife through butter. Auntie E. (talk) 01:21, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Nothing to do, since all the socks are blocked. If you want a sleeper check, please say so explicitly. --Deskana (talk) 13:35, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

:I'm not familiar with that term. If it is to check to see if there's other new accounts created at the same IP of Grundle2600, I'd say "yes please". Tarc (talk) 13:41, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

::I was more talking to the clerk who endorsed the case. They normally leave a short note making it explicit what the user wants, so don't worry about not knowing the terms we use. --Deskana (talk) 13:50, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

:::Ah sorry, thought it was a general question to the filers and commenters, but I shoulda taken note of what section this was. :) Tarc (talk) 14:03, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

{{confirmed}} that the following users match the patterns of the blocked sockpuppets listed above:

• {{checkuser|Convertible Music}}

--Deskana (talk) 13:50, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Blocked. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 14:42, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

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• {{checkuser|1=Pooka and Fygar}}

Another "new" user hitting the Gerald Walpin article, attempting to insert [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gerald_Walpin&diff=361272441&oldid=361259046 the same bias]. Also shows the same interest in food/fauna/fungi/etc... as Grundle has shown in the past by editing [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Agaricus_bisporus&diff=361259564&oldid=328011283 Agaricus bisporus], as Spinoloricus cinzia was an article created and edited by earlier socks. Tarc (talk) 14:06, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Also, "Pooka" and "Fygar" are characters from a classic video game, Dig Dug, as is the Grundle name itself, i.e. Adventure (Atari 2600). He isn't exactly trying to hide. Tarc (talk) 14:08, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

See Defending yourself against claims.

Already blocked and tagged by NawlinWiki. –MuZemike 15:44, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

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• {{checkuser|1=Learn something - read a book today!}}
• {{checkuser|1=Yohann4}}
• {{checkip|1=96.235.50.123}}
• {{checkip|1=72.95.229.163}}
• {{checkip|1=71.182.218.216}}
• {{checkuser|1=It says ANYONE is allowed to edit}}
• {{checkuser|1=G-MMDC}}

"Learn Something"'s edits tend to center around similar topics (such as Obama Zombies: How the Liberal Machine Brainwashed My Generation, which was started by User:Magnum! This is all your fault!, who is a confirmed Grundle sockpuppet). Also, "Learn Something"'s user page features many of the same userboxes (such as the "totalitarians love gun control" one, the "Star Wars Rebel alliance and a traitor", the "chocolate milk", the "likes Greek mythology", the "blood donor", and the "supports nuclear power" userbox) that Grundle2600 featured on his user page before he was banned. Finally, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Duke_University_students_rape_accusation_case&diff=prev&oldid=360708438#The_article_does_not_explain_why_criminal_charges_were_never_filed_against_Crystal_Gail_Mangum_for_making_false_crime_reports_to_the_police] this edit looks very Grundle-ish (using a rhetorical question to push a similar POV). Stonemason89 (talk) 17:00, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Yohann4's first edits were a few months after the first edits from Grundle2600. Notably, at one point Yohann4 created Grundle Guard and Grundel Guard as redirects to Helmet (both of which constituted vandalism and have since been removed). This looks like it could have be a self-referential joke on Yohann4/Grundle2600's part, if they are indeed the same person, although it's possible this could all be an incredibly freakish coincidence. I think a checkuser would be warranted. Stonemason89 (talk) 02:26, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

The IP addresses have only made edits (to this SPI page) in which they all but admit to being Grundle2600. Stonemason89 (talk) 00:24, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

{{user|G-MMDC}}. Same "hello!" creations of user page and talk page, same "he said that but did this" synthesis style of editing...a well-documented Grundle weakness... at [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&action=historysubmit&diff=361509908&oldid=361320930 Presidency of Barack Obama]. Also note in his ever-charming cuteness;

• G-MMDC
• G for "Grundle"
• Roman numerals; M is 1,000, D is 500, C is 100
• Grundle - 1,000 + 1,000 + 500 + 100 == Grundle2600.

{{facepalm}}

Tarc (talk) 18:13, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

See Defending yourself against claims.

User:Yohann4 is not me. 72.95.229.163 (talk) 12:29, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

User:It says ANYONE is allowed to edit was blocked but not listed here, so I added it to the list, because it is me. 72.95.229.163 (talk) 12:34, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia bills itself as "the free encyclopedia that ANYONE can edit."

Banning legitimate editors such as myself who only wish to make good faith edits such as writing articles, only drives our editing into the "underground economy." If you people would focus on writing articles instead of harassing the people who write articles, the encyclopedia would be better off.

I edited wikipedia for two years with exactly zero blocks, bans, or other disciplinary actions. It was only after I started adding true, relevant, well sourced info about Barack Obama that the admins started punishing me.

72.95.229.163 (talk) 12:38, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

The following articles were created by my socks.

If I'm such a horrible editor, why haven't these articles been deleted?

Why won't you people admit that I made the encyclopedia better by creating these articles?

• Chanin v. Teva

• Into The Universe with Stephen Hawking

• Obama Zombies: How the Liberal Machine Brainwashed My Generation

• Spinoloricus cinzia

72.95.229.163 (talk) 12:49, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Here's my proposed solution: Unban and unblock me. Give me a topic ban on all political articles, with the rule that if I break the topic ban, I get blocked for one week. There is no legitimate reason to not let me edit articles about animals, science, technology, and pop culture. Community bans for editors who are weird but not malicious is inhumane. I have sometimes displayed an odd sense of humor with some of my edits, but I have never been malicious. 72.95.229.163 (talk) 12:52, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

:Pardon my French, but you are out of your fucking mind. Here's my solution; go away. Come back in a year...hell, time it exactly so it matches up with your partner-in-crime CoM...and then try an unblock request. Go spend some time somewhere else, maybe [http://simple.wikipedia.org/ Simple wiki], and prove that you are able to work collaboratively with other people. Tarc (talk) 15:28, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

::Chanin v. Teva may very well be deleted, as it currently has a speedy deletion template; I don't see any reason why it is notable, in any case. Stonemason89 (talk) 16:43, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

:::Chanin v. Teva has been deleted. Stonemason89 (talk) 23:53, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

:This is becoming tiresome. Could an experienced checkuser please look into the possibility of shutting this down at the IP level, either by rangeblock or hard IP blocks? Grundle used to be the sort of editor that merely needed some guidance to steer him towards proper Wikipedia conventions, now he's just being annoying just to piss off the admins and play with us. There's got to be something better than whack-a-mole to deal with him. Anything at all would be helpful; he's so obvious that most of his socks are blocked per WP:DUCK, and so most of the time he avoids a full checkuser; but we really need to attempt to take this to the next level. It is eating up WAY to much of the admins time... --Jayron32 19:57, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

::I will quote Grundle from offsite, to show you the mindset that you're dealing with here; "If you make your sock puppets at wikipedia so obvious that anyone can tell that it's you, it's not being dishonest. It's breaking the rules, but it's breaking the rules in an honest way." Tarc (talk) 20:04, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

:::In other words, he's intentionally being obvious just to avoid the checkuser. Can we PLEASE stop this at the IP level, if at all possible. Pretty please! --Jayron32 20:21, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia bills itself as "the free encyclopedia that ANYONE can edit." Here's my IP address - but it'll be different after I reconnect. 96.235.50.123 (talk) 22:42, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

: "Here's my IP address - but it'll be different after I reconnect." That's a taunt if I ever saw one. He's basically saying "go ahead, block me, but I'll be back under a different IP". Now I understand quite well what Tarc said about a "mindset". Stonemason89 (talk) 00:22, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Banning legitimate editors such as myself who only wish to make good faith edits such as writing articles, only drives our editing into the "underground economy." If you people would focus on writing articles instead of harassing the people who write articles, the encyclopedia would be better off. 96.235.50.123 (talk) 22:46, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

: Next time, maybe you should leave your comments in the "Comments from accused parties" section, rather than the "Comments for other users" section (which is for other users). Stonemason89 (talk) 02:29, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

::Every time I commented in that section last week, it was erased. 72.95.229.163 (talk) 12:28, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

I edited wikipedia for two years with exactly zero blocks, bans, or other disciplinary actions. It was only after I started adding true, relevant, well sourced info about Barack Obama that the admins started punishing me. 96.235.50.123 (talk) 22:49, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

: So attempting to create a separate article about Michelle Obama's arms constitutes "true, relevant, well sourced info"? Stonemason89 (talk) 00:15, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

::I did not just "attempt" to create it. I did create it. And yes, it was very "true" and very "well sourced." Whether it was "relevant" is perhaps a matter of opinion, but it was "notable." You can see my original version [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Grundle2600/Sandbox&oldid=297051542 here], which is indeed very "true" and very "well sourced." 72.95.229.163 (talk) 12:28, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Interesting Coincidence: A few minutes ago I noticed that Grundel Guard and Grundle Guard both redirected to Helmet, and that both "junk redirects" had been added by the same account, Yohann4. Both redirects have since been deleted as vandalism due to the fact that I reported them to the administrators. This might be a complete coincidence, but Yohann4's first edit was in July 2007, a few months after the first edits from Grundle2600. For these reasons, and due to the fact that Yohann4's edit history consists almost entirely of disruptive editing, I suspect that Yohann4 might be a possible bad hand account used in the past by Grundle2600. This is only a hunch on my part, and since it doesn't quite pass the duck test I think a checkuser is in order. Stonemason89 (talk) 02:09, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

:Yohann4 is not me. 72.95.229.163 (talk) 12:30, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

:: Please excuse us for not believing a thing you say. You are banned, period. There is no wikilawyering, no compromise, no negotiation. You have no privileges here. Burpelson AFB (talk) 22:41, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

{{RFCU| CODE LETTER | No2ndletter | decline }}    Requested by Stonemason89 (talk) 17:00, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

{{endorse}} on Yohann4. The IPs and the other now-blocked accounts are bloody obvious. –MuZemike 15:03, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

:: Yohann4 will be stale, hasn't edited since January of 2009. Burpelson AFB (talk) 22:27, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

:::{{decline}} then per my lack of hindsight. There no other reason to really check here. –MuZemike 23:58, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

::::Unless it would be to check for possible IP blocks or rangeblocks to stop the sockfarming at its source.... --Jayron32 02:09, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Given the wide range of IPs, I doubt that a rangeblock would be useful. Closing. Tim Song (talk) 13:37, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

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• {{checkuser|1=Herculoids}}
• {{checkuser|1=Did You See the Sunrise?}}
• {{checkuser|1=Little runt sitting there on a log}}
• {{checkuser|1=Spirobranchus giganteus}}

The same sorts of edits done to the same set of articles as Grundle2600 and his mighty, bottomless drawer of socks. Gerald Walpin has long, long been an obsession of his.

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gerald_Walpin&diff=318107768&oldid=317535977 Grundle2600, 10-5-09]
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gerald_Walpin&diff=359393994&oldid=358894674 Rabbit Seasoning 5-1-10] (confirmed sock)
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gerald_Walpin&action=historysubmit&diff=361272441&oldid=360325919 Pooka and Fygar 5-10-10] (confirmed sock)
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gerald_Walpin&diff=369126846&oldid=369083282 Did You See the Sunrise? 6-20-10]
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gerald_Walpin&diff=372360439&oldid=369783527 Little runt... 7-8-10]
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gerald_Walpin&action=historysubmit&diff=372362459&oldid=372360439 Herculoids 7-8-10]

Similar edits are littered throughout Presidency of Barack Obama, specific diffs there can be done if need be, but the above Walpin fixation is IMO enough behavioral evidence. Even the usernames follow Grundle's video game, media, and pop culture fixations, i.e. The Herculoids, a [http://www.tv.com/magnum-p.i./did-you-see-the-sunrise/episode/16036/summary.html Magnum PI episode], and a line from Weird Al's Yoda. Tarc (talk) 12:54, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

• Adding "Spirobranchus giganteus", edits made to Walpin [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Gerald_Walpin&diff=prev&oldid=372440991 here]. Tarc (talk) 19:15, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

See Defending yourself against claims.

• Note: See also [http://forum.dvdtalk.com/10252689-post9.html this forum entry] where Grundle admits (again) block evasion and socking.The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 16:23, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Comparing against Learn something - read a book today!, the following accounts (in no particular order) are sockpuppets of Grundle2600:

• {{checkuser|Spirobranchus giganteus}}
• {{checkuser|Back on the Chain Gang}}
• {{checkuser|Herculoids}}
• {{checkuser|Christmas at Ground Zero}}
• {{checkuser|Voices, Private Eyes, and H2O}}
• {{checkuser|Did You See the Sunrise?}}
• {{checkuser|Little runt sitting there on a log}}

--Deskana (talk) 19:56, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

{{Admin-note}} Blocked and tagged. –MuZemike 20:03, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

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{{confirmed}} {{checkuser|Physalia physalis}}. Amalthea 10:24, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

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• {{checkuser|1=Great Pumpkin}}

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hugo_Ch%C3%A1vez&diff=prev&oldid=385643923 This edit].   — Jeff G.  ツ 02:09, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

See Defending yourself against claims.

• {{Endorse}} - Account blocked, either as a sock or for impersonation. CU may be able to tell us which. T. Canens (talk) 02:17, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

{{confirmed}}:

• {{checkuser|Great Pumpkin}}
• {{checkuser|Mozart and Kinkajou}}
• {{checkuser|Bufo periglenes}}
• {{checkuser|Okapia johnstoni}}
• {{checkuser|56E-478}}
• {{checkuser|Dr. Teeth and The Electric Mayhem}}
• {{checkuser|Suricata suricatta}}
• {{checkuser|Lions and tigers try to jump}}
• {{checkuser|Gotta Lotta Nerve}}
• {{checkuser|Major Joshua Sleestak}}
• {{checkuser|Vulgarian Visigoth}}
• {{checkuser|Father Paddy McGuiness}}
• {{checkuser|A waitress in a cocktail bar}}
• {{checkuser|Zis is KAOS, ve don't...}}
• {{checkuser|Chin Ho Kelly}}
• {{checkuser|Lucy McGillicuddy}}
• {{checkuser|The Colossus of Atlantis}}
• {{checkuser|Maharincess of Franistan}}
• {{checkuser|Small Matter of Pygmies}}
• {{checkuser|You used to call me paranoid}}
• {{checkuser|Maharincess of Franistan}}
• {{checkuser|They're putting up reindeer}}
• {{checkuser|Sockpuppet of banned user Grundle2600}}
• {{checkuser|Buddy Hinton}}
• {{checkuser|The days are dull the nights are long}}
• {{checkuser|Standing in the Hallway}}
• {{checkuser|Five dollar milkshake}}
• {{checkuser|Weirdo from Another Planet}}
• {{checkuser|The temple band took five}}
• {{checkuser|Waterfall of dachshunds and chihuahuas}}
• {{checkuser|I'm obnoxious and lazy. I'm uneducated.}}
• {{checkuser|Dragged up from the underworld}}
• {{checkuser|Heavy the Crown}}
• {{checkuser|Desert has lost its favorite rose}}
• {{checkuser|Dosidicus gigas}}
• {{checkuser|Elmo Ziller}}
• {{checkuser|Horace Dovers}}
• {{checkuser|Greatest earthquake ever known}}
• {{checkuser|Concert Interruptus}}
• {{checkuser|Holy Haleakala}}
• {{checkuser|Load of rich creamery butter}}
• {{checkuser|Ramble tamble}}
• {{checkuser|Frederick Hobart Edie Mertz I}}
• {{checkuser|Gitchee Goommee Noonee Wa-Wa}}
• {{checkuser|Bingo, Bango, Bongo, and Irving}}
• {{checkuser|Use your head, give your heart a rest}}
• {{checkuser|I can't promise you pearls and diamonds}}
• {{checkuser|I'm gonna pack my bags and FLY}}
• {{checkuser|Pulu See Bagumba!}}
• {{checkuser|His name is George... George Glass}}
• {{checkuser|Imagination's got the best of you}}
• {{checkuser|The news said it's raining in New York}}
• {{checkuser|Hello snotface!}}
• {{checkuser|Captain Carl Majors}}
• {{checkuser|Zaphod, farewell my lovely}}
• {{checkuser|Mac73-74}}
• {{checkuser|Caerostris darwini}}
• {{checkuser|Nucular refudiation}}
• {{checkuser|Heard of a brand new wave}}
• {{checkuser|Pyrops candelarius}}
• {{checkuser|Manihot esculenta}}
• {{checkuser|Zrbtt}}
• {{checkuser|Bixby becomes Ferrigno}}
• {{checkuser|I think I'll dye my hair blue}}
• {{checkuser|Princess Caraboo}}
• {{checkuser|Green, blue, and purple}}
• {{checkuser|Roy Hinkley}}

67 socks total, 19 unblocked. I strongly urge that somebody create edit filters here after looking at some of the similarities. –MuZemike 03:03, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

• All blocked and tagged. I'm so glad I wrote a certain script... T. Canens (talk) 03:17, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

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• {{checkIP|1=72.95.243.115}}
• {{checkIP|1=71.182.177.25}}

Per WP:DUCK:

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=387061832&oldid=382646134]

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=387223964&oldid=387103704]

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=prev&oldid=387062549] (by User:SummerPhD)
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=next&oldid=387224153], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=next&oldid=387062549] (by User:PhGustaf)

See Defending yourself against claims.

Well. As you'll see in this archive's history alone, IPs {{diff|Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Grundle2600|361463401|361399888|72.95.229.163}} and {{diff2|361521288|71.182.218.216}} previously claimed to be him, so the ranges would match. Along with the strong topical overlap, it's certainly a case of WP:DUCK.
However: Those IP ranges are highly dynamic and highly trafficked. Specific IP blocks are useless, and rangeblocks would lock out too many decent editors. Leaves two options: 1) WP:RBI and WP:SEMI where appropriate. 2) WP:Abuse response.
Amalthea 19:29, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

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• {{checkuser|1=Heloderma suspectum}}

Account created and created user page and user talk page, similar to {{user|Great Pumpkin}}, {{user|Captain Lance Murdoch}}, and {{user|You sunk my battleship!}}. Then suggested obscure information for inclusion at Presidency of Barack Obama.

Oh, and Grundle's IP was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=389010754&oldid=388127082 active] yesterday. Grsz¹¹ 21:34, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Ha, helps when he answers to Grundle [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Grsz11&diff=389404384&oldid=389403570]. Grsz¹¹ 22:23, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

See Defending yourself against claims.

Blocked as obvious. Prolog (talk) 21:45, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

{{confirmed}} plus

• {{checkuser|Mad Buck Gibson}}

–MuZemike 21:59, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

• All accounts tagged and blocked. — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 01:22, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

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• {{checkuser|1=Gyps fulvus}}
• {{checkip|1=71.182.182.14}}

Grundle has had an almost manic fixation on the Gerald Walpin case over the years, and this account has created Gerald Walpin v. Corporation for National and Community Service, et al. tonight, which has also been edited by 71.182.182.14, an IP in the range Grundle has edited from in the past. Tarc (talk) 03:15, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Obvious sock, already blocked, nothing left to do. Amalthea 09:45, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

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• {{checkuser|1=Mr. McBeevee}}

Looks like we missed this one before. Account created userpage and user talk first (typical of Grundle socks), then created [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Firing_of_Gerald_Walpin&action=history Firing of Gerald Walpin], a Grundle pet project. Check this archive if you need more evidence, but this is a WP:DUCK. Grsz¹¹ 19:49, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

See Defending yourself against claims.

• Blocked Amalthea 14:37, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

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• {{checkuser|1=Binky 2819}}

[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&diff=prev&oldid=373530191 This]. Also, per the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Binky_2819 contributions], an interest in outer space. Edited [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=HD_10180&action=history this article], created by an already-blocked Grundlesock. Requesting checkuser for sleepers. Grsz¹¹ 15:07, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

• {{Endorse}} - T. Canens (talk) 15:19, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
• Because he edited the sandbox? That's what it originally was for. :)
  Anyway, I just sleeper-checked Grundle, but only found blocked socks. Binky is {{unrelated}}. Amalthea 16:53, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

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• {{checkuser|1=Skiing in Switzerland}}

Created User:Skiing in Switzerland/sandbox, a cut and paste of Grundle's previous work. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=prev&oldid=394465207 Re-added] all of his pet projects at Presidency of Barack Obama. Request checkuser to determine any sleepers, as he never just has one. Grsz¹¹ 22:33, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

See Defending yourself against claims.

{{confirmed}} and IP rangeblocks extended and some hardened. I'm afraid if he keeps going, we're going to have no choice but to either full-protect Presidency of Barack Obama or unblock him. –MuZemike 22:42, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

:Blocked & tagged. Tiptoety ^talk 23:27, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

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• {{checkuser|1=Ys546}}

Same Gerald Walpin obsession. Created an article on the firing and made the name into a redir to that shortly after Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gerald Walpin (2nd nomination) closed as delete. Bag & tag. Tarc (talk) 04:41, 22 November 2010 (UTC) Tarc (talk) 04:41, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report]

Auto-generated every six hours.

See Defending yourself against claims.

WP:DUCK, but a check user would be helpful. These accounts usually come in batches. Grsz 11 04:44, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

• Could be sleepers here. — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 04:47, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
• {{confirmed}}, no sleepers. TNXMan 15:22, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=December 3}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every six hours.

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This is blatantly Grundle. Request CU to find any sleepers. Grsz 11 17:34, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

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• {{Endorse}} - Been a week. Who knows what we'll find! — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 17:49, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

{{confirmed}} the following are Grundle2600:

• {{checkuser|1=December 3}}
• {{checkuser|1=Bert 236}}
• {{checkuser|1=Cya2621}}
• {{checkuser|1=I see math everywhere!}}

::Blocked and tagged. –MuZemike 18:54, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=Tricks Are Not Treats}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every six hours.

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Obvious sockpuppet is obvious. Sceptre ^(talk) 20:16, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

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{{confirmed}} the following:

• {{checkuser|1=Tricks Are Not Treats}}
• {{checkuser|1=Gv 76}}
• {{checkuser|1=45tr45}}
• {{checkuser|1=Rj ut 43}}
• {{checkuser|1=Nck54}}
• {{checkuser|Opakapaka65}} TNXMan 20:47, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

:Thanks for a quick check. All blocked & tagged. Prolog (talk) 20:57, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

::Since full-protecting these articles are out of the question, perhaps we need to seriously reconsider the ban we have on him. It's obvious that he's going to keep going with this indefinitely. –MuZemike 21:00, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

:::What are you suggesting? The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 21:03, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

::::Is it possible to do an IP block here? — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 21:05, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

:::::I believe not; otherwise we would have had said IPs blocked by now. –MuZemike 21:08, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

::::::Hm, okay. But with 173 confirmed socks, I don't think we can really consider unblocking such a prolific socker. — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 21:11, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

:::::::I've brought up the issue at WP:ANI#Long-term disruption for any interested users. Grsz 11 22:00, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=65 fdt 6a}}
• {{checkuser|1=Texas Lightning}}
• {{checkuser|1=Chocolate in my peanut better}}
• {{checkuser|1=YCDT on TV}}
• {{checkip|1=128.253.211.40}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every six hours.

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65 fdt 6a has already been blocked as a Grundle sock, presumably on behaviour pattern. One of its article creations (Commonwealth of Virginia, Ex Rel. Kenneth T. Cuccinelli, II v. Sebelius) has been edited by a number of new accounts (editing very quickly after account creation, showing good knowledge of WP e.g. nominating the article at WP:ITN/C) and an IP. Request checkuser to confirm and to flush out anything else lurking. Bencherlite^Talk 23:48, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

• I was thinking of G5'ing it anyway (and had G5'd another of 65 fdt's creations), so I've deleted it in the light of The Resident Anthropologist's tagging. Bencherlite^Talk 00:07, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

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Commonwealth of Virginia, Ex Rel. Kenneth T. Cuccinelli, II v. Sebelius is being speedied under CSD G5 and ITN nom has been collapsed as it was not ITN material anywayThe Resident Anthropologist (talk) 00:03, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

All accounts blocked, several IP ranges blocked. –MuZemike 00:16, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=Mdlmny56}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every six hours.

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A brand-new user turns up at my talk page to complain about my G5 deletion of a Grundle sock's article a few hours ago (see the last SPI). Quack blocked, but any sleepers or other IP ranges? Bencherlite^Talk 03:31, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

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• {{Endorse}} - It's been at least three hours. Any sleepers? — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 07:34, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
• {{confirmed}}, no sleepers. TNXMan 14:37, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
• Closing. — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 16:37, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=European Magpie}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every six hours.

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See recent edits - common Grundle targets. Checkuser is for any socks. Ravensfire (talk) 22:55, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

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• {{Endorse}} - Been a week since the last check, Let's see what's going on. — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 23:03, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

{{confirmed}}, blocked, and tagged. I have hardblocked one open proxy, and I have now raised the current rangeblocks we currently have to hardblocks. Please let me know if other users get caught in these blocks, as I have already granted one IP block exemption as a result. Barring that, the only other things we can do are either full-protect all the affected articles (which still won't prevent him from using other IP ranges and open proxies for creating pages under different usernames), or consider unbanning and unblocking him. –MuZemike 23:27, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=The modernization of Emily}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every six hours.

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Odd behavior for a New User, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Affirmative_action&diff=405535569&oldid=405245697 First edit show knowledge of Wiki] at a page involving Affirative action a topic known for right wing criticism. Second and third edit [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:The_modernization_of_Emily&oldid=405543758 removes] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:The_modernization_of_Emily redlinks] from user space to hide the newness of the account. Pretty quickly come to for a new user. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates&diff=405812085&oldid=405811402 ITN]

ITN is a known Grundle Target See the Dec 19th case. based on these unusual patterns by a brand new user. I request a check The Resident Anthropologist (talk) 05:22, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

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• Checkuser should probably be run on this one, but this has all of the standard Grundle tells, including creating stubby articles on marginally notable topics. I suspect that after we block this one, an IP will show up at ANI demanding that we delete those articles he created. It's super ducky, but lets get a checkuser in here to do the standard sockfarm sweep/IP blocking. --Jayron32 05:29, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

• Yes, I think a CU is needed as well. — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 13:36, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

:{{confirmed}} TNXMan 14:31, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

• {{adminnote}} Blocked and tagged. — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 14:47, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=Grundle2600}}
• {{checkip|1=173.165.239.237}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.

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Tagging old Grundle socks, editing articles related to American politics and Barack Obama conspiracies. Seems rather ducky, seeking checkuser confirmation before blocking. Jayron32 05:50, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

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• {{Decline}} - Jayron, per the privacy policy, CU won't match an IP to an account. It might be worth doing a CU to see if there are sleepers here, though I doubt it.. (and it may be fishing anyway.) — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 14:06, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

:: Grundle2600 is simply stale. No need to go so deep into the privacy policy. Ruslik_Zero 15:58, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

:::Fair enough, though {{user|The modernization of Emily}} - a confirmed sock - is right on the verge of being stale, but may still be usable. — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 16:09, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

• {{Unrelated}} Not Grundle. Amalthea 16:57, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
• Lets move on then. -- DQ (t) (e) 19:35, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=Always on Sunday}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.

Al Gore has been a usual Grundle target. See the most recent attempt to add a criticism section [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Al_Gore&diff=439937141&oldid=439419240 today] on alleged enviro hypocrisy and slamming his son's transgressions. This is a word-for-word copy of [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Al_Gore&diff=402198488&oldid=401518401 this edit] last year by {{u|Tricks Are Not Treats}}, a confirmed Grundle sock. Tarc (talk) 16:13, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

This is a long period of inactivity, Dec 2010 to July 2011, but note that one of Grundle's other targets Presidency of Barack Obama, {{u|Hgxzm23}} and {{u|Fzwyj72}} were blocked as socks already so it does indeed seem that our buddy here is once again active. Tarc (talk) 16:13, 17 July 2011 (UTC) Tarc (talk) 16:13, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

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• Prolog already blocked, but I'll add a CU for sleepers. — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 20:27, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

::Grundle2600 is on a new range. As such, Al Gore has been full-protected for 24 hours. –MuZemike 22:25, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=Eight 67 5309}}
• {{checkuser|1=I9c5t3}}
• {{checkuser|1=6tg8}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.

The same POV-pushing edits on Presidency of Barack Obama, such as [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=474648317&oldid=474643756] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=476006412&oldid=475527482]. Asking for Check User because there may be more. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:28, 9 February 2012 (UTC) – Muboshgu (talk) 20:28, 9 February 2012 (UTC) – Muboshgu (talk) 20:32, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

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{{confirmed}} the following are the same:

• {{checkuser|1=Eight 67 5309}}
• {{checkuser|1=9c47}}
• {{checkuser|1=I9c5t3}}
• {{checkuser|1=ThFSPB}}
• {{checkuser|1=Fh7aTP8F}}
• {{checkuser|1=6tg8}}

{{adminnote}} All socks blocked and tagged. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 23:28, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=As clumsy as I am stupid}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.

Editing standard Grundle honeypot, Presidency of Barack Obama, in the same manner as Grundle always does. This one has been blocked and tagged by others, but I am submitting here to check for sleeper socks; Grundle creates them prolificly (see archives) and last week's run didn't catch this one, apparently. Jayron32 22:12, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

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• {{Endorse}} - Let's see if there's any sleepers. Steven Zhang ^{Join the DR army!} 02:22, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
• Didn't see any, nothing more to do here I'd say. WilliamH (talk) 12:41, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
• Marking for close. TNXMan 14:51, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=I came out of lightspeed too close}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.

Same POV edits on Presidency of Barack Obama, please check for more socks. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:23, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

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• Running another CU not 12 hours later is overkill. — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 03:40, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

:Is that so? In those 12 hours, the sockmaster created this sock, and might have created others. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:19, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

::This is a very prolific socker. The next time they identify themselves, we'll run another CU. The CUs may have even declined this one if I had endorsed it for the same reason - they do that sometimes. — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 04:52, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=403 tbs}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.

Passes the duck test. While past socks have made the edits directly to Presidency of Barack Obama, this editor took the slightly different tactic of posting on Talk:Presidency of Barack Obama. Requesting checkuser because this is a prolific sockmaster who may have sleepers. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:41, 18 February 2012 (UTC) – Muboshgu (talk) 00:41, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

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{{confirmed}} plus:

• {{checkuser|92 swp}}

--MuZemike 00:49, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=Darlene Fades to Black}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.

Inserted similar material to {{la|Public image of Barack Obama}} as the previous socks after {{la|Presidency of Barack Obama}} was semi-protected. {{duck}}. Klilidiplomus+Talk 07:42, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

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Here's another suspected duck:

• {{checkuser|1=Why Jackie Becomes a Trucker}}

I suspect that his interests are vandalizing the Presidency of Barack Obama's talk page. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:16, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

• All accounts already blocked, closing. Amalthea 20:41, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=4yn6fd}}
• {{checkuser|1=3sq57j}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.

Additional account {{user|4yn6fd}}. See [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abundance:_The_Future_Is_Better_Than_You_Think&diff=prev&oldid=485679843 diff] as the one and only edit of this account which was a revert to this [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abundance:_The_Future_Is_Better_Than_You_Think&diff=prev&oldid=485637573 diff] to restore content added by User:6ty4e ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Abundance%3A_The_Future_Is_Better_Than_You_Think&diff=484949824&oldid=484546604 diff]) who has been blocked as a sock of Grundle2600. Also note similarity in the name. QU ^TalkQu 10:34, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

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Added {{user|3sq57j}} as pretty obvious. Prolog (talk) 20:57, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

I was already way ahead of the blocks there, and yes those are all {{confirmed}} as Grundle2600. --MuZemike 01:23, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=200cvy}}
• {{checkuser|1=Barbara at the desk}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.

Claims to be Grundle2600.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hugo_Ch%C3%A1vez&diff=prev&oldid=490808343] Another sock was just blocked. TFD (talk) 18:25, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Adding User:Barbara at the desk, see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=490862377&oldid=490862124], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=490862472&oldid=490862377] JoeSperrazza (talk) 22:50, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

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• Would be nice if CU could be used to root out the underlying IPs.--Jasper Deng (talk) 22:34, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

• Blocked an open proxy used to create the accounts, but there's nothing else to do. WilliamH (talk) 01:06, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

7 more {{confirmed}}:

• {{checkuser|4591kax}}
• {{checkuser|992pwe}}
• {{checkuser|George 9844}}
• {{checkuser|Hungry purple chairs}}
• {{checkuser|Four! Seven! Eighty-two! Hike!}}
• {{checkuser|Read, write, and edit}}
• {{checkuser|Charlie 779}}

{{ipblocked}}. --MuZemike 02:30, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Lacardis could be another sock too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Four Deuces (talk • contribs) 02:53, May 6, 2012

: This edit [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hugo_Ch%C3%A1vez&diff=prev&oldid=490849631] is reminiscent of Grundle, on an article he used to edit. JoeSperrazza (talk) 03:07, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

• Marking case for closure. AGK [•] 12:56, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=Lacarids}}
• {{checkuser|0uXHQpcEJbjuXeOP}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.

Per earlier alert by JoeSperrazza, similar style of forumy questions posted twice on another South American related article page - Talk:Falkland Islands ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Falkland_Islands&diff=490510052&oldid=487658098 1] & [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Falkland_Islands&diff=490848369&oldid=490721983 2]). --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 03:25, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

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whatever. If you want to say that I'm a sockpuppet for someone I've never heard of... have fun saying it. For the record--I suggested that the Falklands article would be better if it were to explain why the dispute persists. I also suggested that the Hugo Chávez article would be better if it had a criticism section. After reviewing the wiki policy, I acknowledged that I was wrong, but expressed my concern that one editor has taken it upon herself to delete my suggestion from the Talk Page. I stand behind my original suggestion for the Falklands article. I'm not sure why Dave1185 doesn't think an encyclopedia article should mention why a border dispute remains unresolved. Is that "forumy"? I have read and re-read his replies. His justification for closing the discussion was that "Wikipedia is an Encyclopedia." I agree, and suggested a way to make it a better encyclopedia. Another user replied that Wiki Talk pages are not a forum. I didn't treat it as a forum, nor did I suggest that the article should take a pro-British or pro-Argentinian stance. I even acknowledged that my suggestion might be better-placed in the "Falkland Islands sovereignty dispute" article instead of the "Falkland Islands" article.

FYI, I don't think I've espoused a pro or anti-anything view. My edits and suggestions have been neutral--I think. If I'm wrong, please tell me. I'm not sure why Grundle was banned (nor do I care), but I'm sure he had a non-neutral view that reflected in his edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lacarids (talk • contribs) 17:07, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

:No editor deleted your suggestions. TFD (talk) 02:44, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

::Maybe I'm using the wrong word. User:SandyGeorgia "archived" my suggestion by "making it disappear" in the "history." When I went back to see whether or not other editors agreed with my suggestion, it wasn't there. Call it what you want. Either way, can someone who understands the in's and out's of Wikipedia please compare the banned user's IP with my own? --Lacarids (talk) 03:25, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

:::: I can't "make something disappear in history"; only oversighters can do that. I archived a discussion which was almost entirely posts by Grundle that had been struck by other editors and was filling up a talk page, going off-topic, so that you could start over with a fresh discussion of your concerns, sans Grundle feedback. If you need help understanding how to read archives, read edit summaries, or follow diffs, please ask on my talk and I'll be glad to help. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:20, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

:::Upon reflection, I no longer believe the editor in question is a sock of User:Grundle2600. The revert of the removed comments from Grundle triggered my concrn (and at least one other editor). However, his responses here lead me to believe he was just ill-considered in that action, and not WP:SOCKing. Apologies to all concerned. JoeSperrazza (talk) 03:55, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

::::I added 0uXHQpcEJbjuXeOP because it was self-declared.--Jasper Deng (talk) 04:12, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

{{Cu-endorsed}}: Although the claim that Lacarids shares a "forum" tone with Grundle is unsubstantiated, I see other behavioural similarities in their contributions. AGK [•] 12:51, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

: Lacarids is {{unlikely}} to be related. AGK [•] 12:55, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=Reachblue2245}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.

New account with a precocious knowledge of arcane Wikipedia syntax shows up with highly critical, POV edits at Grundle's favorite honeypot, Presidency of Barack Obama. Style of editing (lots of tiny criticisms with cites in individual paragraphs) pretty much matches earlier known socks almost exactly, see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=prev&oldid=477082879&unhide=1] for one example from this past february. --Jayron32 01:13, 10 May 2012 (UTC) Jayron32 01:13, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

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Blocked and tagged plus {{User|97 miles to go}}. --MuZemike 01:17, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=Toot toot hey beep beep}}
• {{checkuser|1=QfB6Kqqd5u}}
• {{checkuser|1=Punch a higher floor!}}
• {{checkuser|1=Emily 291}}
• {{checkuser|1=Magenta 447}}
• {{checkuser|1=Sixty-seven million}}
• {{checkuser|1=Sunshine and chocolate}}
• {{checkuser|1=Epowerfan}}
• {{checkuser|1=50.0.12.121}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.

Per WP:DUCK - New account User:Toot toot hey beep beep with extensive non-WP:NPOV edits to Talk:Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories pushing familiar User:Grundle2600 positions. JoeSperrazza (talk) 23:08, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Adding new account User:QfB6Kqqd5u, same editing as above, admitting to block evasion here: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories&curid=20618787&diff=493119632&oldid=493107436] JoeSperrazza (talk) 01:43, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

I've added newly registered account User:Magenta 447 and others. Performing the exact same edits with the same edit summaries. Grundle2600 continues their obsession with Indiana State Police Pension Trust v. Chrysler, which they were heavily involved in before getting banned, and Solyndra loan controversy at which several of their socks have been recently blocked. --Loonymonkey (talk) 21:13, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

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• Added missing SPI case status, along with two accounts. Prolog (talk) 21:53, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

• When asked if this Magenta account is a sockpuppet, his response was [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Operation_Fast_and_Furious&diff=prev&oldid=494497848 "Yes - quack quack!"]. Xenophrenic (talk) 22:08, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

{{MoreInfo}}: Can someone with more knowledge of the sockmaster tell me, does it fit the behavioural pattern for this user to edit articles about (and related to) U.S. presidents other than Barack Obama? --(ʞɿɐʇ) ɐuɐʞsǝp 14:33, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

:As far as I know, such edits don't fit his usual MO. Prolog (talk) 21:45, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

::Okay, thanks. In that case, I found nothing of note. --12:45, 29 May 2012 (UTC) --Deskana (talk • contribs)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=Magenta 447}}
• {{checkuser|1=Sixty-seven million}}
• {{checkuser|1=Sunshine and chocolate}}
• {{checkuser|1=Epowerfan}}
• {{checkuser|1=50.0.12.121}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.

This is yet another Grundle 2600 sock (ten or so have been blocked in the last few weeks, see checkuser below). Account was created yesterday and immediately started performing same edits with same edit summary. Even restored some two year old comments from Grundle2600 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Indiana_State_Police_Pension_Trust_v._Chrysler&diff=prev&oldid=494531327] and again referred to self as a sock. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Indiana_State_Police_Pension_Trust_v._Chrysler&diff=next&oldid=494531327]. Seems more intent on just wasting editors' time than actually fooling anyone at this point. --Loonymonkey (talk) 00:43, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

• Update: I've added the newly created User:Sixty-seven million and User:Sunshine and chocolate, User:Epowerfan and an IP, all created yesterday, performing the same edits on the same article. --Loonymonkey (talk) 00:50, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

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Epowerfan is {{unrelated}}, while all other accounts have been appropriately blocked as socks of Grundle2600. No comment with regard to the IP address. --MuZemike 17:58, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=YAU8724}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.

As another editor added a sock tag, and there have been a number of Grundle socks picked up this week, this one seems to be worth investigating as well. Dougweller (talk) 20:42, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

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• Sock already blocked my MuZemke. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © 22:32, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=3328lzc}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.

Brand new account, edit warring to keep critical material in Presidency of Barack Obama article, standard behavior for Grundle. Also has a name which matches pattern of prior Grundle socks. Fairly ducky, asking for checkuser to confirm and to flush out sleepers. --Jayron32 17:51, 5 June 2012 (UTC) Jayron32 17:51, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

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{{user|Ralphie72}} is not a behavioral match. JoeSperrazza (talk) 19:56, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

• {{Endorse}} - There is ample enough reason based on evidence to warrant CU
  ⋙–Berean–Hunter—► 18:05, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
• {{confirmed}} match to {{user|Rural9625drink}}. {{user|Ralphie72}} is a technical match, but I don't know the behavior well enough to comment on that. Blocked a proxy too. TNXMan 19:36, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
• {{clerknote}} 3328lzc and {{user|Rural9625drink}} are blocked and tagged. {{user|Ralphie72}} remains an open question.
  ⋙–Berean–Hunter—► 19:55, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
• I'd say a clerk can close this one. Given Grundle's range, it is possible for unrelated accounts to occasionally pop up. If Ralphie72 shows his ass, and ends up obviously being Grundle, we can block then. It's been documented as a technical match, but we don't have to block until it becomes a behavioral match. If it really isn't Grundle, it won't cause problems. --Jayron32 18:42, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
• Per Jayron32, need to just keep an open eye. Dennis Brown - 2¢ © 18:49, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=John 439256}}
• {{checkuser|1=Sally 65295}}
• {{checkuser|1=‎Brian 5527}}
• {{checkuser|1=‎3512ertz}}
• {{checkuser|1=‎658136jpwxz}}
• {{checkuser|1=871lacc}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.

Per WP:DUCK, when a brand new account shows up at one of Grundle's targets and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3APresidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=496520355&oldid=496495807] starts making the same Grundle edits, it's Grundle. He usually creates a dozen or so sleeper accounts when he makes a new one so requesting checkuser to find those as well. --Loonymonkey (talk) 23:53, 7 June 2012 (UTC) Loonymonkey (talk) 23:53, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

• Added 871lacc as another obvious one. --Jayron32 17:48, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

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• {{Endorse}} - Need to see if he created other fresh accounts when he created these.
  ⋙–Berean–Hunter—► 00:21, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
• {{confirmed}} that all the 6 socks belong to Grundle2600. I think we've got all of them for now. - Mailer Diablo 05:38, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
• All are blocked. This is ready to be closed. --Jayron32 03:31, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=VeOVq3qnSbDB}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.

Same content [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Solyndra_loan_controversy&diff=prev&oldid=496842028 addition] as made by recent sock {{user|871lacc}} [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=prev&oldid=496627057 here]. ArtifexMayhem (talk) 03:18, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

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• Shonuff. Blocked. Checkuser could probably look for sleepers. --Jayron32 03:30, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

:{{endorse}} to check for sleepers. Steven Zhang ^{Get involved in DR!} 10:58, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

• {{confirmed}} obviously, nothing else to report. WilliamH (talk) 13:31, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=Bhfasy9987}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.

Edits to a Grundle honeypot, Indiana State Police Pension Trust v. Chrysler, with Grundle's POV. This may also be User:Epowerfan, who has the same POV, but who checkuser cleared earlier. Looking for confirmation that this is grundle. Jayron32 00:20, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

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• Another Duck. Endorse for sleepers.
  ⋙–Berean–Hunter—► 01:57, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
• {{confirmed}}. All socks cleaned out for now. - Mailer Diablo 10:34, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
• Already blocked, now tagged, so closing. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 12:28, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=Gh82xc56}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.
• [http://toolserver.org/~snottywong/editorinteract.html Editor interaction utility]

Blocked Grundle sock, requesting check for sleepers. --Bongwarrior (talk) 03:35, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

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• {{CURequest}} - {{Selfendorse}} - Requesting checkuser to find sleeper accounts. The recent edits to Barack Obama and User talk:Jimbo Wales are duck evidence, for which he has been blocked. Reaper Eternal (talk) 10:44, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
• I didn't see any obvious related accounts. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 13:57, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
• {{clerknote}} Closing, then. Reaper Eternal (talk) 15:15, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=This stuff is interesting}}
• {{checkuser|1=InterpreDemon}}
• {{checkuser|1=34rtbc76}}
• {{checkIP|173.220.253.114}} retracted - see reasoning below –Prototime (talk · contribs) 03:50, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
• {{checkuser|Odg2vcLR}} retracted - see apology below. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 18:31, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
• {{checkuser|Cyclone Fred}}
• {{checkIP|109.65.213.231}} retracted - see reasoning below –Prototime (talk · contribs) 03:50, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.
• [http://toolserver.org/~snottywong/editorinteract.html Editor interaction utility]

{{User|Xcmn4512}} was recently blocked as a Grundlesock. Shortly after, This stuff is interesting shows up with [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act&diff=577235661&oldid=577235505 this edit] with the edit comment about "Sock or no sock". The other editors are posting only at the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act article with a style similar to Grundle. See [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act&diff=577239850&oldid=577238874 1], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act&diff=577250870&oldid=577250288 2]. CU is for a sleeper check. Given the current climate, I cannot image Grundle staying away. Ravensfire (talk) 13:54, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

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• This_stuff_is_interesting and 34rtbc76 were confirmed and blocked shortly after Xcmn4512. InterpreDemon is still awaiting CU. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 22:34, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
• I added 173.220.253.114 to the list, given that InterpreDemon signed a talk page comment left by 173.220.253.114 here: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act&diff=next&oldid=577353860 diff] –Prototime (talk · contribs) 03:03, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

*I added Odg2vcLR. Evidence: similar subject matter and POV, SPA, precocious behavior. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 19:40, 18 October 2013 (UTC) Retracted - see apology below. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 18:30, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

• :I'm a little surprised that I'd be accused of being a WP:SPA, even though most of my edits have primarily been on one article; but many have not. Of course, this is somewhat a moot point since I've apparently been confirmed as unrelated, but perhaps be a bit more cautious when outright accusing someone of being an SPA or similar? Odg2vcLR (talk) 15:41, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
• :Additionally, checking some of those other users' contributions, it appears they all have a strongly anti-ACA POV. If anything, I could perhaps be described as having a somewhat pro-ACA POV, if I've exhibited any significant POV at all (which I've tried not to.) So that's another whacky allegation...not really important now, but it seems like "POV" and "SPA" were just tossed out here with no basis, simply to pull additional editors into being checkusered. Please try to base your allegations on demonstrable, consistent facts. Odg2vcLR (talk) 16:12, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

:::I'm so sorry, Odg2vcLR, you are clearly not Grundle (even without the CU) as you have a very different POV. I somehow got your user ID mixed up with another one, I'm not sure which. Please accept my apologies and I hope my mistake caused no lasting harm. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 18:30, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

::::No worries, apology accepted; I can see how my random-ish username might look spammy or be confused with that other user with a similar username style. I'm a bit paranoid about privacy these days, thus being a bit annoyed at having my IP information looked into without real cause. I guess I trust the checkusers not to do anything untoward with that information, so it's not a huge deal. Odg2vcLR (talk) 19:19, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

• I added Cyclone Fred. This account was just created and has a highly similar editing style to {{User|Xcmn4512}} as shown by this edit [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3APatient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act&diff=577933126&oldid=577932696 (diff)] to Talk:Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act: this user's comment has a long subheading, contains excessive spacing, and consists of a large block of POV material—all of which was prepared in Cyclone Fred's personal sandbox shortly beforehand. –Prototime (talk · contribs) 04:35, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
• I added 109.65.213.231, which posted a comment on Talk:Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act shortly after Cyclone Fred did with another large block of material with excessive spacing, see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3APatient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act&diff=577956643&oldid=577934612 diff]. Even more tellingly, Cyclone Fred, shortly before being confirmed as a sock and blocked, directly edited 109.65.213.231's comment with this edit: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act&diff=prev&oldid=578041302 diff]. Also, note that this behavior is similar to InterpreDemon directly editing the comments of 173.220.253.114, as noted above. –Prototime (talk · contribs) 01:53, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
• I have removed the IP users from the list. 173.220.253.114 was added due to its relationship to InterpreDemon, who has since been determined to almost certainly not be a sock. Furthermore, 109.65.213.231 was added chiefly because the user posted on a talk page in temporal proximity to Cyclone Fred, and because Cyclone Fred then inserted his own comment directly into the IP user's comment; however, as time has passed, it has become apparent that their patterns of behavior are quite different, and the IP user does not appear to share Cyclone Fred's POV-pushing desires. –Prototime (talk · contribs) 03:50, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

• {{User|Cyclone Fred}} is {{confirmed}} to xmcn. However I did not do an in depth check of other users, so more CU action still needs to be taken. NativeForeigner ^Talk 01:26, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
• {{user|InterpreDemon}} is highly {{unlikely}} to be Grundle2600. {{user|Odg2vcLR}} is definitely {{unrelated}} to Grundle2600. {{nc}}. Reaper Eternal (talk) 14:11, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=Sqdn65487}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.
• [http://toolserver.org/~snottywong/editorinteract.html Editor interaction utility]

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Grundle2600&diff=prev&oldid=580921503 Self-admitted sock] but with today's block of User:Xqpoiu98, requesting check for sleepers. Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 23:01, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

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• {{confirmed}}, blocked, tagged, {{IPblock}}, no other sleepers. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 20:54, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=Plokws76}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.
• [http://toolserver.org/~snottywong/editorinteract.html Editor interaction utility]

User admits it: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&curid=9870625&diff=584010111&oldid=584009504] Atethnekos (Discussion, Contributions) 05:01, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

::User:Resolute banned user now. Closing.--Atethnekos (Discussion, Contributions) 05:19, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=Iu87vd34}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.
• [http://toolserver.org/~snottywong/editorinteract.html Editor interaction utility]

New user who openly admits connection to Grundle2600 and has a similar POV and editing style. See [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3APatient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act&diff=584073534&oldid=584046797 diff]. –Prototime (talk · contribs) 17:16, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

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See immediately below. -- Avi (talk) 16:12, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=Iu87vd34}}

• [http://toolserver.org/~betacommand/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.
• [http://toolserver.org/~snottywong/editorinteract.html Editor interaction utility]

[//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act&diff=584073440&oldid=584046797 same] as Special:Contributions/Plokws76 who was just added to Grundle's ever growing list of accounts earlier today. George Orwell III (talk) 17:20, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

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:Checkuser for sleeper check and IP block. Ramaksoud2000 ^{(Talk to me)} 18:14, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

{{Inconclusive}} Accounts already blocked are on an enormous range but owned by same entity with the same, butrather generic. technical information. Other accounts on range seem to have somewhat different technical information, so there are no immediately apparent sleepers. Ranges are not amenable to a rangeblock; vigilance will be necessary. -- Avi (talk) 16:12, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

• Nothing more to do here, closing now. Mark Arsten (talk) 16:26, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=Larry Sizemore}}
• {{checkuser|1=Dfwe3401}}
• {{checkuser|1=Crimson marble goldfish}}
• {{checkuser|1=QbR54190dfcv}}

• [http://tools.wmflabs.org/betacommand-dev/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.
• [http://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/editorinteract.py Editor interaction utility]

All the accounts listed above have been blocked, but it's been quite a while since the last check. Prolog (talk) 03:36, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

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• {{Endorse}} - Worth a look for sleepers. Regards, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 06:24, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
• All sleepers already blocked. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 15:14, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=Lkiode43}}

• [http://tools.wmflabs.org/betacommand-dev/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.
• [http://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/editorinteract.py Editor interaction utility]

Similar behavior to Grundle's previous incarnations:

• [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Lkiode43&oldid=632311000 Creating] a userpage with the text "blue" (similar to previous socks' behavior of creating their userpages with a single period); the text may be a reference to making the username link blue
• Edited King v. Burwell [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=King_v._Burwell&diff=prev&oldid=633029765] and its talk page [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:King_v._Burwell&diff=prev&oldid=633029801]; the article was [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=King_v._Burwell&oldid=617011075 created] by a previous sock (User:Dfwe3401) under the title "Halbig v. Burwell", and was edited extensively by them. The editing style in the first linked edit (including the edit summary consisting of naming Jonathan Gruber and a quote from him) is similar to that of sock User:This one's for my boys in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=King_v._Burwell&diff=618415198&oldid=618241042 this edit], which introduced the same Gruber material to the article. The editing style of the second link edit is similar to that of previous Grundle socks on various talk pages (see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=prev&oldid=612150950], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act&diff=prev&oldid=584079230], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bob_Menendez&diff=prev&oldid=542211662], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=prev&oldid=496520355]).
• [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shooting_of_Michael_Brown&diff=632867987&oldid=632856128 This edit] to Shooting of Michael Brown uses the same reference style of [weblink in brackets], Newspaper, date used by Grundle socks (e.g. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=prev&oldid=612157884], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dinesh_D%27Souza&diff=prev&oldid=609659277], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidency_of_Barack_Obama&diff=prev&oldid=543292733], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Indiana_State_Police_Pension_Trust_v._Chrysler&diff=prev&oldid=496977562]), as well as a similar kind of edit summary.

This may be worth a check for sleepers. RJaguar3 | u | t 03:25, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

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Of course it's me. I am Grundle2600. I never try to hide the identity of my socks. It's interesting that everyone was OK with the edits from this particular sock until they started to suspect that it was a sock. The only reason I was banned in the first place was to prevent me from adding reliably sourced info that was critical of Obama. Many articles created by my various socks are still in existence, and the content that I added is still in them. I never should have been banned in the first place. Lkiode43 (talk) 05:41, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

:Re "It's interesting that everyone was OK with the edits from this particular sock until they started to suspect that it was a sock." — Not sure what you mean by OK. An edit of yours[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shooting_of_Michael_Brown&diff=632867987&oldid=632856128] that I encountered before I knew you were a sock had erroneous info that I thought was an honest mistake and I corrected it.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shooting_of_Michael_Brown&diff=632874805&oldid=632868150] Later, RJaguar3 removed my corrected version[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shooting_of_Michael_Brown&diff=633193618&oldid=633166143] saying that it was added by a sock puppet and I undid that removal, indicating that I had worked on it and corrected it.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shooting_of_Michael_Brown&diff=next&oldid=633193618]

{{endorse}} After reviewing the presented evidence and prior cases, I think a check for sleepers would be appropriate. Mike V • Talk 03:32, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

• There appear to be no sleepers, CU can't even see the last blocked account as it is stale. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 17:07, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
• The lone account has been blocked and tagged. Mike V • Talk 23:04, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkip|1=74.98.43.204}}
• {{checkip|1=74.98.36.9}}

• [http://tools.wmflabs.org/betacommand-dev/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.
• [http://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/editorinteract.py Editor interaction utility]

Edits to Talk:Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act similar to those of previous Grundle socks. Diffs include [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act&diff=prev&oldid=636610558], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act&diff=prev&oldid=635496411], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act&diff=prev&oldid=635493761]. The first edit contains a similar fascination with Wikipedia policy shared by Grundle and their socks. The other two edits are similar to these edits by Grundle socks: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act&diff=prev&oldid=613856125], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act&diff=prev&oldid=613858822], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act&diff=prev&oldid=584073440]. I'm bringing this here because of [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act&diff=636714223&oldid=636613734 this revert of the removal of the suspected socks' contributions]. RJaguar3 | u | t 05:30, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

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IP socks tagged as obvious. Prolog (talk) 14:09, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

• {{ping|Prolog}} We almost always don't tag IPs as the people who use them change over time. Closing. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 11:12, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkuser|1=Bvfg7756}}

• [http://tools.wmflabs.org/betacommand-dev/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.
• [http://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/editorinteract.py Editor interaction utility]

Compare [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act&diff=prev&oldid=635767465 by a confirmed GrundleSock] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act&diff=prev&oldid=650721238 by Bvfg7756]. Same edit and summary. Also compare [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act&diff=prev&oldid=635767291] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act&diff=prev&oldid=650721512].

CU would be for any sleepers. Ravensfire (talk) 14:34, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

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• {{Decline}} - There is nothing to compare with, all Grundle2600 accounts are {{StaleIP}}. But, according to provided diffs, {{duck}}. Vanjagenije (talk) 12:24, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

:*Blocked per behavioral evidence. Prolog (talk) 08:17, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

• Blocked and tagged. Closing. Vanjagenije (talk) 09:54, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

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• {{checkuser|1=Pleatreal}}

• Tools: [https://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/editorinteract.py Editor interaction utility] • [https://tools.wmflabs.org/interaction-timeline?wiki=enwiki Interaction Timeline] • [https://tools.wmflabs.org/betacommand-dev/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.

Gavelchive created an account on 8/13 and immediately waded into editing on controversial topics, generally espousing a combative, far-right position. Pleatreal shows up on 8/29, immediately creates an edit in his sandbox and tries to add that edit to Jeffrey Toobin. Edit is rejected, and Gavelchive, who has never edited Jeffrey Toobin before, adds the comment in its entirety to the article (ostensibly taking the text from the talkpage, where Pleatreal had posted it).[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jeffrey_Toobin&diff=prev&oldid=857201585][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jeffrey_Toobin&diff=prev&oldid=857201585] Both userpages are identical, having followed the same pattern--both users created their userpage with their first edit by placing their username on the page, and both users then created their talkpage by placing their username on it as the second edit; usernames also follow similar construction (i.e., two unrelated words smushed together to create a name). Likely sockpuppeting, but could also just be coordinated creation of accounts to do some POV-pushing. Checkuser requested on the possibility that other accounts may have been created in the same timeframe. Grandpallama (talk) 18:48, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

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• {{confirmed}} plus:
• {{checkuser|Veralenya Sarconyacov}}
• {{checkuser|Fish97}}
• {{checkuser|Seaweed Monster}}
• {{checkuser|Acruxbald}}
• {{checkuser|Coalsseder}}
• {{checkuser|Lexusaztec}}
• {{checkuser|Infoenos}}
• {{checkuser|Mooedlaud}}
• {{checkuser|Ragssigns}}
• {{checkuser|Dietslabs}}
• Blocked the unblocked accounts without tags. {{clerk request}} Please merge into Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Grundle2600.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:26, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
• {{Done}} Sro23 (talk) 04:42, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

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• {{checkuser|1=Lpouer4832xs}}
• {{checkuser|1=Thaddeus_Bradshaw}}

• Tools: [https://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/editorinteract.py Editor interaction utility] • [https://tools.wmflabs.org/interaction-timeline?wiki=enwiki Interaction Timeline] • [https://tools.wmflabs.org/betacommand-dev/cgi-bin/uc?uc=Grundle2600 User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.

I have blocked these accounts per behavioral evidence, but a sleeper check could turn out to be very fruitful. Prolog (talk) 06:27, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

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• {{Endorse}} - Per long history of socking. Thanks, GAB^gab 17:03, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
• {{confirmed}} plus:
• {{checkuser|Burtbroil}}
• {{checkuser|DfDF5467gt56}}
• {{checkuser|Josh likes salad}}
• {{checkuser|JhAJ765gt547}}
• {{checkuser|Lk87dd32}}
• {{checkuser|Naomi Farkas}}
• Blocked, tagged, closing.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:28, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

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• {{checkuser|1=Banana5742}}
• {{checkuser|1=Ten Little Flintstones}}
• {{checkuser|1=Lunar Beard}}
• {{checkuser|1=Dent Camus}}
• {{checkuser|1=Walessoups}}

• Tools: [https://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/editorinteract.py?users={{urlencode:{{SUBPAGENAME}}}}&users={{urlencode:Banana5742}}&users={{urlencode:Ten Little Flintstones}}&users={{urlencode:Lunar Beard}}&users={{urlencode:Dent Camus}}&users={{urlencode:Walessoups}} Editor interaction utility] • [https://tools.wmflabs.org/interaction-timeline?wiki=enwiki&user={{urlencode:{{SUBPAGENAME}}}}&user={{urlencode:Banana5742}} Interaction Timeline] • [https://tools.wmflabs.org/betacommand-dev/UserCompare/{{urlencode:{{SUBPAGENAME}}}}.html User compare report] Auto-generated every hour.

• per below. Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 22:35, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

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• Obvious socking from a behavioural standpoint and the technical data aligns with the CU log. All blocked and will tag as proven.-- Jezebel's Ponyo^{bons mots} 22:35, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

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{{sock list|1=SquirrelHill1971|tools_link=yes}}

Wanted to file this to mention ticket:2024012310000954. Closing. DatGuy^Talk_Contribs 18:20, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

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{{sock list|1=Smooth Emerson lasagna|2=The Mess of Adrian Listenger|3=Edie Finneran|4=Nicole Wallace from Australia|5=867-53-ZERO-9|6=Devour feculence|7=Choreography and Merriment|8=A Plumbing I Will Go|9=Doorstop6812|tools_link=yes}}

See below. --Blablubbs (talk) 00:42, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

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• {{confirmed}} to each other, behaviourally and technically consistent with past socks of this master. {{btc}} --Blablubbs (talk) 00:49, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

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