Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Memsom/Archive

: {{checkuser|1=Memsom}}
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;Suspected sockpuppets

• {{checkip|1=84.201.181.226}}
• {{checkip|1=82.132.136.203}}
• {{checkip|1=131.111.27.50}}

;Evidence submitted by -- samj _in^out

User:Memsom is [http://twitter.com/memsom/status/1232480103 very] [http://twitter.com/memsom/status/1232490743 clearly] [http://twitter.com/memsom/status/1232493145 biased] (even [http://twitter.com/memsom/status/1234522620 admitted] to being a psion user) and has already [http://twitter.com/memsom/status/1234584750 warned] that they're ''"not picking a fight, else [this] wikipedia article would be toast".

User:82.201.181.226 makes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ASave_the_Netbooks&diff=272755674&oldid=272537695 bunch of edits] to debates involving User:Memsom. Both users are from the UK.

User:Memsom [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Save_the_Netbooks&diff=272193377&oldid=271989737 calls for deletion] on talk page (?) then shortly after User:82.132.136.203 writes a [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Save_the_Netbooks&diff=272255307&oldid=272193377 similar (unsigned) rant] citing the same issues (e.g. bias). Both users are from the UK.

User:Memsom [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Save_the_Netbooks&diff=273219402&oldid=273215728 votes to delete] an article he doesn't like, then less than 20 minutes later User:131.111.27.50 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Save_the_Netbooks&diff=273226737&oldid=273226277 votes to delete], also citing similar issues, also unsigned. Both users have made similar edits ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Save_the_Netbooks&diff=272697879&oldid=272561366 here] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Save_the_Netbooks&diff=272312913&oldid=272264758 here]) to the same section of the same article around the same time. Both users are from the UK.

User:Memsom also [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Memsom&diff=273199630&oldid=272423334 admits to editing as IPs] and has a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Save_the_Netbooks history] of disruptive and tendentious editing.

;Comments by accused parties    See Defending yourself against claims.

FWIW, User:Memsom has since [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SamJohnston&diff=273316038&oldid=273313763 explained] themselves and appears genuine. Also admitted to being a 'noob' - years old account but few edits. -- samj _in^out 03:23, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

;Comments by other users

;Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

• {{relisted}} due to one apparent deliberate logged-out edit Mayalld (talk) 07:32, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
• {{clerk-note}} whilst it is not a breach to forget to log in, it is a breach to deliberately log out in order to stack !votes at an AFD. The following sequence of edits is problematic;

:#[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FSave_the_Netbooks&diff=273219402&oldid=273215728 16:59 25th February] Memson edits Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Save the Netbooks to !vote delete

:#[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Save_the_Netbooks&diff=prev&oldid=273224970 17:25 25th February] Memson edits Save the Netbooks

:#[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Save_the_Netbooks&diff=prev&oldid=273224970 17:34 25th February] 131.111.27.50 edits Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Save the Netbooks to !vote delete

:#[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Psion_netBook&diff=prev&oldid=273227023 17:35 25th February] Memson edits Psion netbook

:So, if 131.111.27.50 is Memsom (and all that has gone before has been on the basis of "yes I have edited whilst logged out), there are two questions to be answered;

:#Did he "forget" in the space of half an hour that he had already !voted?

:#Did that omission fortuitously coincide with a mysterious 5 minute logged out period?

:Mayalld (talk) 07:32, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

::Mayalld, that IP address is assigned to a University that is approximately 60 miles away from my place of work and over 100 miles away from my home address. It was not me, I have never attended the University in question and do not believe I know of any current enrollees there. The University of Cambridge is quite prestigious place to study, so I can only wish that I could have afforded it ;-) I think, bar magic, I can sfely say I was not sitting in their computer labs 7 minutes after I was in central London. Memsom (talk) 13:25, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

::(ec)Memson's acknowledged IP is 84.201.181.226 - that one didn't vote twice. Also, the speech patterns of Memson and the IP that voted are very different to my eye. SamJ has been making accusations of bad faith against everyone who voted to delete his article, and this was part of it. He even said on the AfD that an SPI has been opened, conveniently forgetting to mention that it was him who opened it. I'll buy that two of the IPs above may be Memson (home and work), but he's accusing three.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 13:27, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

;Conclusions

{{Delisted}} based on the evidence presented by Memsom, I accept that there doesn't seem to be anything untoward going on. Mayalld (talk) 16:21, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

{{SPIclose|archive}} Mayalld (talk) 16:21, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

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