Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Aimulti

=[[User:Aimulti]]=

;Suspected sockpuppeteer

;Suspected sockpuppets

;Report submission by

RetroS1mone talk 05:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Toddst1 (talk) 18:03, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

;Evidence

Aimulti has self-identified himself as Mark Hanau and is vociferously defending the article at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Hanau including at least [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Randroide&diff=prev&oldid=211998380 1] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Simonxag&diff=prev&oldid=211997502 2] instances of campaigning.

Note WP:SPA {{user|75.83.214.6}}'s contributions during the gap in Aimulti's contributions and the similarity in that editor's comments about perceived vendettas with Aimulti.

{{user5|Cantstopthefaith}} is also a spa user that has only edited attacks and borderline attacks about perceived vendettas on talk pages related to editors working on Mark Hanau.

{{user5|1=76.194.235.52}} is a SPA that accused Mark Hanau editors of SPA, tried to erase his Los Angeles IP after the changes and deleted personal attacks by Aimulti. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mark_Hanau&action=history] RetroS1mone talk 12:44, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

{{user5|1=71.183.185.125}} has edited several favorite topics of Aimulti. Compare [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lenticular_printing&oldid=216780974] with versions by Aimulti [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lenticular_printing&oldid=205730106] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lenticular_printing&oldid=210256689]. Compare {{user5|1=71.183.185.125}} [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:71.183.185.125] to Aimulti's quoting from didik.com [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Lenticular_printing&oldid=205285200]. This user is not a new user, familiar with some Wikipedia techniqes but clumsy like Aimulti. Likes to get into edit wars [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lenticular_printing&diff=prev&oldid=216782134] like Aimulti did regularly on his autobiography Mark Hanau now deleted. Plagiarism was a problem with Aimulti too, this user plagiarises from [www.didik.com/3d_hist.htm], Aimulti on Peace News and others. Aimulti did alot of frivolous RfCs on AIDS denialism, this user did one on lenticular printing minutes after I reverted plagiarism, and got the template wrong. RetroS1mone talk 05:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

;Comments

I agree that this behavior is worrisome. It's hard to handle misbehavior during AfD debates. Blocking the culprit in the midst of the debate seems too strong, because then they can't participate in the discussion any further. I suggest you might add your own Comment to the AfD, listing everything you think is amiss, and linking to this sockpuppet report. That way the closing admin will at least get a good summary of the misbehavior to take account of in his closing. EdJohnston (talk) 18:36, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

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THE REAL sockpuppets are quite clear: - This attack is retribution for a heated debate in the 'AIDS Denialist' section and is simply an attack thus motivated. Look at the history (or lack of history in one case) and TALK pages of the people asking for this article to be deleted (or editing it out of spite) and the true motives will become quite clear. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/RetroS1mone Only editorial work on Wikipedia. AIDS Denialism and attack on aimulti. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Keepcalmandcarryon Almost every editorial contribution (hundreds) are attacks on aimulti. BOTH JOINED WITHIN ONE DAY OF EACH OTHER. BOTH CLEARLY OBJECT TO aimulti on political grounds. THIS IS BULLYBOY TACTICS NOT IN THE SPIRIT OF WIKIPEDIA Aimulti (talk) 20:19, 15 May 2008 (UTC) DIRTY TACTICS The following from the deletion page shows the dirty tactics being used against aimulti...... Very strong delete - Per WP:AUTO, WP:COI, WP:Personal information, WP:MUSIC, WP:VER and WP:NOTMYSPACE. Also, see Mark on AIDS Myth Exposed, planning covert operations[1] against wikipedia. (http://groups.msn.com/aidsmythexposed/activism.msnw action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=34105&LastModified=4675672689297989029 )—Preceding unsigned comment added by Nocontroversy (talk • contribs) 19:12, 14 May 2008 (UTC) COMMENT ON ABOVE. Your link shows no such thing. Aids Myth Exposed does not even have a member with that name. I checked. Aimulti (talk) 21:42, 14 May 2008 (UTC) Aimulti and Nocontroversy, please restrict your comments to discussion of this article. What Mark said under what pseudonym where is irrelevant here. Thank you, Keepcalmandcarryon (talk) 22:17, 14 May 2008 (UTC) I note you (Keepcalmandcarryon) started the thread referenced above. QUOTE: -From: keepcalmandcarryon (Original Message) Sent: 4/26/2008 11:44 AM I'm sure y'all have noticed that, despite its claim to maintain a "neutral point of view", Wikipedia's articles relating to AIDS dissidence are biased (see for example the entry on Celia Farber). In honor of Rethinking AIDS day I am going to make time to do some editing and adding of needed references, and I encourage others to do the same! THIS WHOLE THING IS BEGINNING TO STINK MORE AND MORE. Aimulti (talk) 22:42, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

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THE REAL sockpuppets are quite clear: -

This attack is retribution for a heated debate in the 'AIDS Denialist' section and is simply an attack thus motivated. Look at the history (or lack of history in one case) and TALK pages of the people asking for this article to be deleted (or editing it out of spite) and the true motives will become quite clear.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/RetroS1mone

Only editorial work on Wikipedia. AIDS Denialism and attack on aimulti.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Keepcalmandcarryon

Almost every editorial contribution (hundreds) are attacks on aimulti.

BOTH JOINED WITHIN ONE DAY OF EACH OTHER.

BOTH CLEARLY OBJECT TO aimulti on political grounds.

THIS IS BULLYBOY TACTICS NOT IN THE SPIRIT OF WIKIPEDIA Aimulti (talk) 20:19, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

DIRTY TACTICS

The following from the deletion page shows the dirty tactics being used against aimulti......

Very strong delete - Per WP:AUTO, WP:COI, WP:Personal information, WP:MUSIC, WP:VER and WP:NOTMYSPACE. Also, see Mark on AIDS Myth Exposed, planning covert operations[1] against wikipedia. (http://groups.msn.com/aidsmythexposed/activism.msnw action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=34105&LastModified=4675672689297989029 )—Preceding unsigned comment added by Nocontroversy (talk • contribs) 19:12, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

COMMENT ON ABOVE. Your link shows no such thing. Aids Myth Exposed does not even have a member with that name. I checked. Aimulti (talk) 21:42, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Aimulti and Nocontroversy, please restrict your comments to discussion of this article. What Mark said under what pseudonym where is irrelevant here. Thank you, Keepcalmandcarryon (talk) 22:17, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I note you (Keepcalmandcarryon) started the thread referenced above. QUOTE: -From: keepcalmandcarryon (Original Message) Sent: 4/26/2008 11:44 AM I'm sure y'all have noticed that, despite its claim to maintain a "neutral point of view", Wikipedia's articles relating to AIDS dissidence are biased (see for example the entry on Celia Farber). In honor of Rethinking AIDS day I am going to make time to do some editing and adding of needed references, and I encourage others to do the same! THIS WHOLE THING IS BEGINNING TO STINK MORE AND MORE. Aimulti (talk) 22:42, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Comment from IP involved:

The ip 71.183.185.125 is the general IP used by Verizon for lower Manhattan, Brooklyn and Staten Island. Probably 500,000 people or more use Verizon in NYC. I have no idea who Aimulti or Mark Hanau or anyone else mentioned is. I have noticed however that very good information that I posted seems to have been deleted by someone refered to as RetroS1mone and I feel that this persons actions are wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.183.185.125 (talk • contribs) 05:55, 3 June 2008

:It is the only time the IP is used at Wikipedia. Plagiarism is not very good information. I have noticed 71.183.185.125 makes same mistakes like Aimulti like apostrophe missing and mis-spelling and punctuation plus starting out at Lenticular one of Aimulti's projects. Sorry if I'm wrong it looks very suspicious. RetroS1mone talk 11:51, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

;Conclusions

I looked carefully at this. The AFD problem was resolved two weeks ago, and the article was deleted. We now want to know whether 71.183.185.125 is the same person as Aimulti. I can't prove that it's not, but the evidence linking them seems fairly weak. In particular, if I can trust that IP saying that he's from New York City, and one of the previously listed IPs is from Los Angeles, it's very unlikely that these are one person. Also, even if they are one person, no violation of policy has occurred. It is permissible to login and logout and edit at will: in the worst-case scenario, that's all that happened. Shalom (Hello • Peace) 16:26, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

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