Wikipedia:Teahouse#resolving links to copyvio used in references

Hiya, do we have any policies/guidelines for archiving article talk pages? Or can I just cut-and-paste stuff when it gets too long? Thanks, GoldRomean (talk) 00:13, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:@GoldRomean, I don't think there are any specific guidelines on when to archive, it is just needed on long talk pages. WP:ARCHIVE has all the technical information on archiving, I would suggest setting up one of the archive bots as it will do it without human intervention. If you need more help feel free to ask or take a look at how other article talk pages are archived. Best, CF-501 Falcon (talk · contribs) 00:48, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

::Gotcha, thanks! GoldRomean (talk) 01:11, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:::@GoldRomean, just to add to that, since most talk pages aren't archived, because they don't get enough action, people are very likely to assume that there is no archive if you let an archive bot run at the default settings. I'd suggest raising both the minimum number of allowed threads and the maximum thread age, so that more conversations stay on the talk page. It's very annoying for the same conversation to come up again and again every year or couple of months. -- asilvering (talk) 17:40, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Further to this, keeping a minimum of four threads ({{para|minthreadsleft|4}}) ensures that a table of contents is shown. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:52, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

{{Courtesy link|Draft:Peter J. Howard}}

Hi! I am struggling to get my first article published successfully. Comments rejecting the article so far note its lack of 'reliable sources' that can be 'verified'. My subject, Professor Peter J. Howard, is a living person, an accomplished academic, well published and well known in his field of landscape studies. His books and journal articles are used by university, graduate and post-grad students throughout the English-speaking world. What he does not have, however, are articles written about him, though many books and journal articles cite his work. Mainstream media do not cover him, however, so there are no newspaper articles to cite. If 'notability' is therefore an issue, is there anything else I should be considering, apart from abandoning the article? Thank you for any thoughts on this! Lonepine0204 (talk) 17:32, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:@Lonepine0204: Hi, welcome to the Teahouse! Unfortunately, notability is a requirement for someone to have an article on Wikipedia. The reason for this lies in Wikipedia's core pillar of verifiability, which is to say that any information in a Wikipedia article must be able to be supported with a citation to a reliable source. Notability is our standard to make sure that we're only hosting articles on subjects that we can actually write verifiably about--if there are no reliable sources, we can't write *anything* verifiably, and that means we can't have an article at all, regardless of how famous/deserving/etc. a subject might otherwise be.

:It really is unfortunate, and it certainly imposes restraints on our coverage that can be unfair, since we necessarily have to follow what reliable sources choose to cover, and that choice is never without bias. But verifiability is our only way to have any confidence in the accuracy of the content we provide, so it is necessary, even with all its faults. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 17:40, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

::Hi! Thank you very much for your reply re. 'notability'. I've just been looking at 'notability criteria for academics' and it appears that my subject does in fact qualify (Criterion #8) as the founding editor of International Journal of Heritage Studies. He is listed as such in every issue, but how do I cite that? (No author, it's on the masthead in each issue.) Can you advise me on whom to appeal to on a decision regarding notability? Thanks again. Lonepine0204 (talk) 18:13, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @Lonepine0204. If his work gets cited, you may find that the he will meet the alternative formulation of notability for academics. ColinFine (talk) 18:12, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you ColinFine. Yes, indeed. I've just been reading about that and I believe this will be a qualifying criterion for my subject (as well as Criterion #8: being founding editor of the International Journal of Heritage Studies, IJHS, published through Taylor and Francis). Lonepine0204 (talk) 18:17, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

:You need to cite more independent sources. for example, "Howard s a Visiting Professor at Bournemouth University." is cited to Howard's Researchgate profile; you should be able to cite a Bournemouth University page (other than his own). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:53, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you for this pro tip! I have made your suggested adjustment to the article. Lonepine0204 (talk) 12:52, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:::No you haven't. Perhaps your edit failed to save? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:49, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Uh, right! :) Should be published now. "Draft: Peter J. Howard" is the title. Lonepine0204 (talk) 17:04, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::I can see your edit. The article looks much better now, but the "Academic Career" section has only two citations, and the latter two-thirds of it have none. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:19, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

::::::Thank you Andy. I will keep working on this. I am under the impression, though, that the alternative formulation for "notability" and "verification," designed to accommodate articles about accomplished academics, required fewer of the kinds of citations that tend to elude professors who keep their heads down and stay out of the press. Can you say what would be an adequate number of citations in this Academic Career section? Or perhaps I should just curtail the facts, as I understand them to be, in that section? In any event, thank you again for your review. It's much appreciated (by this digital dinosaur). Lonepine0204 (talk) 13:04, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::::It's not a question of quantity; statements about living people must (with a few exceptions, not relevant here) be sourced, see WP:BLPRS. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:11, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

hello, i wanted to post my profile on wikipedia, about me, and unfortunately it didnt work, can you please show me the perfect way or format to make a good wikipedia profile about me, thanks! Mbatayneh (talk) 21:44, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @Mbatayneh, and welcome to the Teahouse.

:I'm afraid that, like many people, you have a misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is.

:Wikipedia does not host profiles - not one.

:If you meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability - which means, roughly, that several people wholly unconnected with you have published material about you - then Wikipedia coud have an article about you, based on those independent sources. It would not be "your profile", as it would not belong to you, would not be controlled by you, and would not necessarily say what you wanted it to say.

:If such sources exist, then there could be an article - but you are strongly discouraged from trying to write it yourself. If the sources do not exist, then there cannot be an article about you. Sorry. ColinFine (talk) 21:51, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

::As I've mentioned before, in common usage, "profile" is just another word for "article". We have a profile of Tim Berners-Lee, and rightly so, and many more besides.

::In the Wikipedia context, "profile" may refer to a user page [see User profile]; and we have a great many of those; including yours.

::Please deal with the substantive issue; especially as this is The Teahouse, whose users are to be greated especially gently. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:37, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

I have an account on Discord and a link from Wikipedia that is supposed to bring me into the Discord group but it doesn't work. Jstashpdx (talk) 23:13, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

:@Jstashpdx what happens when you click the "join group" button on WP:DISCORD? [[User:CanonNi]] (talk • contribs) 00:41, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello,

I am trying to understand what about the content on this page (Jayanthi Kumaresh) appears promotional. It earlier was indeed so (unintentionally) and has hence been edited to present a more neurtral tone and amply supported by citations. The tagger has indicated that there is still lots of puffery. Will anyone kindly help me review and edit the article to adhere to the wiki standards. Thank you.

Shyamala. Shyamalswiki (talk) 03:51, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:Phrases such as {{tq|represent India’s Musical Heritage and promote Indian classical music; rigorous Veena training; renowned violinist; excelled in sparkling glee; gave a sold-out concert at Sydney Opera House}} all come across as promotional. Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:59, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

::“excelled in sparkling glee" is a quote from a review. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:31, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:::Yes, but a cherry-picked quote. Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:44, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

::::There are about 150 or so links where I do a google search and I am trying to figure out how to make an article about the subject using content from those sources. So, should I just be quoting lines from each of the articles - I thought, we could make factual statements and then give citations supporting it. Can you kindly pick one line out of the article and show me a rewritten version as a sample so I can understand what is wrong ? Shyamalswiki (talk) 16:17, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:::::I have removed some of the content you pointed out as appearing promotional. Kindly review. If it appears ok, what would be the next step to get the promotional tag removed ? Shyamalswiki (talk) 03:23, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi! I have a draft article that is maybe 80% complete. I am still working on collecting some references. Is it possible to submit for review, to check is there are any major issues I have missed, or is the common practice not to submit until the article is ready to publish? Thanks! LeeSawyer (talk) 05:51, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, {{u|LeeSawyer}}. You should only submit a draft for review at Articles for Creation when you truly believe that it is ready for the encyclopedia. Submitting a draft that you know will be declined just creates unnecessary extra work for reviewers who are already overworked. Cullen328 (talk) 07:47, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:A draft need not be 100% complete before submitting it, few actual articles are 100% complete. The basic rule of thumb that many reviewers use is, would a draft survive an Articles for Deletion discussion? If you think your draft would survive a hypothetical deletion discussion, and is properly sourced, you may submit it whenever you feel it is ready. But don't submit one just to get feedback, knowing that it won't be accepted. 331dot (talk) 08:14, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:@LeeSawyer One suggestion would be to post a link to your draft at a Project Talk page that it fits. Then those editors who are most interested in its topic might like to comment or suggest additional material. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:31, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello! I proposed that Politics of the Arizona Borderlands be merged into Arizona. I've closed the merge proposal after no consensus emerged in a week, but would somebody be able to look over the closure to make sure I didn't miss anything? Thank you! Horse.staple (talk) 06:33, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

I want to create JCCA Page and have some Notable news reffrances. i want to know this url is helpful to create a page or not, please find the below news url link -

• https://www.bhaskar.com/epaper/detail-page/jaipur-city-bhaskar/34/2023-07-02?pid=2
• https://www.bhaskar.com/local/rajasthan/jaipur/news/due-to-artifacts-worth-crores-insurance-was-done-for-the-entire-show-miniature-sculpture-made-in-green-diamond-131483684.html
• https://indianexpress.com/photos/lifestyle-gallery/artist-himmat-shah-pandemic-drawings-legacy-photojournalist-raghu-rai-lens-8850813/
• https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/noted-artist-himmat-shahs-paintings-sculptures-to-be-exhibited-at-jaipur-cultural-centre/articleshow/101233139.cms?from=mdr
• https://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/art/himmat-shah-90-under-the-mask-pandemic-drawings-exhibition/article67145401.ece
• https://www.outlooktraveller.com/explore/inspiration/celebrating-master-sculptor-himmat-shah

-- Reena.rex (talk) 11:33, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

: I have applied list markup, for readability. Presumably, you mean "Jaipur Centre of Culture and Arts"? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:04, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:Reena.rex, you're asking about the "Jaipur Centre of Culture and Arts". Among your links, I clicked on just one: "[https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/noted-artist-himmat-shahs-paintings-sculptures-to-be-exhibited-at-jaipur-cultural-centre/articleshow/101233139.cms?from=mdrNoted artist Himmat Shah's paintings, sculptures to be exhibited at Jaipur cultural centre]". This says about JCCA:

:*"The Jaipur Centre of Culture and Arts is set to open on July 2 with an inaugural exhibition featuring the works of internationally renowned artist Himmat Shah."

:* "The JCCA director said the centre will provide a platform to the country's artists and art enthusiasts by enabling them to promote and showcase various forms of art and culture."

:And that's all it says. This doesn't indicate notability. -- Hoary (talk) 12:08, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Upon assessing page notability it has come up a lot where people dispute whether or not a certain notability criterion applies, therefore it remains unclear, is it up to us or policies to determine notability? In other words which comes first criterion or consensus? 

If policy comes first, then is consensus on notability about whether such-and-such criterion applies on a given subject?

If consensus comes first, then we can dispute til Sunday, everything from the reliability of reliable sources, to the credibility of notability guidelines. Xpander (talk) 13:03, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:Policy should be put before a guideline, so consensus is most important. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 14:07, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

::{{u|Xpander1}}, if policies and guidelines were always crystal clear and indisputable, then we could simply have bots or "Artificial Intelligence" make the decisions for us. But they aren't that cut and dried. There are always edge cases requiring nuanced decisions. So that is why Wikipedia is a consensus based project. Keep in mind that policies and formal guidelines are the product of community wide consensus. Local consensus in a debate about a specific topic can make specific decisions about that topic but can never override established policies. Guidelines usually contain language such as {{tpq|Editors should generally follow it, though exceptions may apply.}} Cullen328 (talk) 16:55, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:::So we can easily reach biased consensus if the participants share a similar point-of-view. What makes it possible to avoid that?

:::Unless we are presupposing that the community is diverse enough, participating in every decision-making process, we can't guarantee consensus is not biased or arbitrary. Therefore aren't we betting too much on consensus? Xpander (talk) 08:33, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Nothing in the World is perfect. Here we do the best we can, and we have over 20 years' of continually refined communal experience doing it. If you have concrete suggestions for how to do it better, with no counterbalancing drawbacks (such as making a process too unwieldy), suggest them, preferably at the WP:Village pump. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.6.81.243 (talk) 11:08, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

Is article hijacking, which is replacing an article's content with content about a completely different topic, considered a form of vandalism? 1isall (talk/contribs) 14:19, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:Yes, it is considered a form of vandalism. PhoenixCaelestis (Talk · Contributions) 14:36, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:Once? Not necessarily. A new user might not understand disambiguation. They might believe that 'their' topic is more noteworthy. Persistent attempts at hijacking would be. --Onorem (talk) 15:03, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:Please see WP:NOTVANDAL for more on this. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:05, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

::{{u|1isall}}, when it comes to vandalism, intent is all important. Deliberately damaging the encyclopedia is vandalism. Accidentally damaging the encyclopedia due to inexperience or lack of skills is not vandalism. Cullen328 (talk) 16:59, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:::That is true. Any good faith attempt to improve the encyclopedia that doesn't end well is definitely not vandalism. 1isall (talk/contribs) 17:20, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

How to import a template from a wiki to here, specifically the Template:Main Page/Sisterprojects from Meta-Wiki??? (Alt: or someone could help me to import the template for me)

Thanks. DinhHuy2010 (talk · contribs · logs · rights · email · sandbox · links to user page · global contribs) 15:02, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:You will need someone with admin rights to do that; ask at WP:AN. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:10, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

::{{blockquote|someone with admin rights to do that}}

::What can a admin do here??? DinhHuy2010 (talk · contribs · logs · rights · email · sandbox · links to user page · global contribs) 15:13, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:::An admin can import the template, as you requested. You cannot. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:27, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

::Also "import" mean convert the template code from that wiki to here with completely converted code suitable to this wiki.

::(and also in additional to that, import revisions just require the "import" right, no need to be a admin)

::Thanks.

::(pinging @Pigsonthewing just in case) DinhHuy2010 (talk · contribs · logs · rights · email · sandbox · links to user page · global contribs) 15:16, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:::No, "import " means "import". If you meant "rewrite the code", you should have said so. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:30, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

::::@Pigsonthewing Some advices for rewrite the code? (also this template I told is also have TemplateStyles) DinhHuy2010 (talk · contribs · logs · rights · email · sandbox · links to user page · global contribs) 15:37, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

::The right venue to request for importing revisions is Wikipedia:Requests for page importation. And import rights are generally held by admins (and one special case) on enwiki here. For converting it to be suitable on enwiki, make the request here Wikipedia:Requested templates. – robertsky (talk) 15:22, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello are there people here who can help edit and finish a wiki page that has already been started? 73.60.75.31 (talk) 15:10, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:Generally, no.

:But you can ask on a relevant WikiProject and you might get lucky. If you tell us which article you have in mind, we can advise more specifically. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:33, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

::Wikipedia articles aren't generally ever considered finished. New information may always come to light on any given topic, and there's always scope for improvement. -- D'n'B-📞 -- 20:13, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I was wondering how I can create better articles and improve on the current draft that I submitted? NathanielTheGreatEditor (talk) 19:51, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:Welcome to the Teahouse, {{u|NathanielTheGreatEditor}} Looking at the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Fatality_(gamer)&oldid=1294284574 current state] of Draft:Fatality (gamer), my suggestions to you would be to familiarise yourself with how to use inline citations, to read Wikipedia:Reliable sources and to gain an understanding of Wikipedia:Notability, as summarised usefully at WP:GOLDENRULE (this latter point may or may not not help you with improve that draft, but it will help when it comes to selecting topics to write about in future). Cordless Larry (talk) 20:14, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:NathanielTheGreatEditor, I second what {{U|Cordless Larry}} says above. You've been editing for just three or four days. With so little experience, attempting to create a draft that will be accepted as an article is going to be very tough. You should first get more experience of improving existing, defective articles. One that you've already (and beneficially) tinkered with is SuperX (Operating System). Here's a sample of the article in its current state: {{Olive|The operating system embraces beginners, casual users and makes them feel at home. Simplicity doesn't mean feature-less. SuperX is as powerful and very handy for professionals and experts alike. The GNU utilities plus the software packages available are enough to be used for any task. SuperX is perfectly capable of being a desktop publishing setup, multimedia hub or even server.}} An exercise for you on your path towards GreatEditorNess: (i) Does this look OK? (ii) If it doesn't look OK, how might it be improved? Improve it. (iii) Also, if it doesn't look OK, what else in the article shares one or more of its problems? Fix it. (iv) But if the sample above does look OK, then take a break from editing Wikipedia for one or two days, and then reread and rethink. -- Hoary (talk) 22:49, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

I am writing an article on Carl Marsh, the composer, arranger and conductor. Sometimes when I go to publish/save my work I get the error message "Content is not properly deflated" with no explanation and I can't find this matter explained anywhere. I am sourcing all of my claims. What does this error message mean? How can I fix the error?

Confused,

Chris King Chriskingstl (talk) 20:45, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hi Chriskingstl, welcome to the Teahouse. I guess the message is MediaWiki:Deflate-invaliddeflate: "Content provided is not properly deflated". It's not your fault. The documentation says "Error message if the content passed to Deflate was not deflated (compressed) properly". It indicates a problem in your browser, our software, or the communication between them. What is your browser? Does it happen every time for the same edit? Can you try the same edit in another browser? It appears to mostly or only happen in VisualEditor and not the source editor. There is a little discussion but no fix at phab:T381673. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:14, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi! My article submission was declined on 6 June 2025 for not having adequate reliable sources. I want to improve it but I’m not sure which sources are considered reliable or how to fix the referencing. Could someone please review my draft and guide me?

Here is the draft link: Draft:Ajami Records. Samikanawati (talk) 22:50, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|Samikanawati}}, it looks like the reviewers are telling you that you need more reliable and independent source material to demonstrate that the subject is notable (and some special guidelines apply regarding the notability of organizations and companies). You can see how sources are evaluated for reliability here, and for independence here. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 02:07, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, @Samikanawati, and welcome to the Teahouse.

:A Wikipedia article should be a neutral summary of whatseveral people who have no connection whatever with the subject have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable publications, and very little else. See WP:Golden rule for the criteria that your sources must meet. Neither of your sources comes anywhere near this: WP:DISCOGS is not regarded as a reliable source because it is user-generated, and Elaph (as far as I can tell from Google Translate) has only a passing mentin of Ajami Records.

:You need to begin by finding several sources which meet all the criteria in WP:Golden Rule - if you cannot, then you will know that the label does not currently meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability and there is no point in spending more time on this. (Sources do not have to be in English, but they must meet those criteria).

:{{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} ColinFine (talk) 11:01, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi! I recently asked about thisn topic but more focused on , making an article for Edie Saccone Joly, the 11-year old trans daughter member of the Saccone-Joly family. Everyone agreed that there is only one article on a reliable source and that its an interview so not really reliable.This would be a case of WP:Too soon. However, thinking about an article on the whole family, I found that there are four or five articles on reliable sources that cover the family in deep. And this is not even counting the articles on non reliable sources. Anyways I have been thinking about making an article, a stub perhaps, covering the entire family with some basic information. What do you guys think? Also, no Im not related to them. But Im running out of nicknames so im using their last names as my nickname on this comment!Jeanette Saconne-Joly Martin (dynamite me!) 03:46, 7 June, 2025 (UTC)

:{{U|JeanetteMartin}}, if you have found four or five articles in reliable sources that cover a subject in depth, and if these sources are independent of the subject, then it sounds as if the subject is eligible for an article. (There are exceptions, but I shan't go into these.) But I have to say that I'm wary of articles on families: these tend to be concoctions of snippets about minor matters (or mere trivia) related to individual members of the family, few (if any) of whom are actually notable. I've never heard of the family or of Edie Saccone Joly: when I ask Google for material about ESJ, it serves me a pile of sources that would be utterly unsatisfactory for a Wikipedia article. ¶ Your name here is JeanetteMartin: adding a nickname to it doesn't help communication with other editors, using as a nickname the surname of a family you hope to write about strikes me as a poor idea. -- Hoary (talk) 08:11, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{U|JeanetteMartin}} Please deal with the issue of your signature, as advised on your talk page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:52, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

::Something's happening that I cannot log on to my account of JeanetteMartin. I emailed Wikipedia but they have not answered. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeanettemartinfortrump (talk • contribs) 12:17, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

I've made a draft article in my sandbox but don't know where to find it. I also labelled it an abbreviation instead of its full name because I thought it would just be for me

Thank you for your time ForFawkesSake (talk) 09:37, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

:Your edit history shows this Draft:RSU 13 ME. Theroadislong (talk) 09:55, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

:The abbreviated name is not a problem, because when you eventually, via Wikipedia:Articles for creation, submit the Draft for review, the reviewer will (probably even if they Decline it for further improvement, and certainly if they Accept it) amend (by moving) the title to what they think most appropriate.

:However, at the moment, if submitted the Draft will certainly be Declined, for the reason that the previous commenter has placed at the top.

:To qualify for an article, a subject has to be WP:Notable, as demonstrated by citing most of its contents to published Reliable sources completely independent of the subject; only minor uncontroversial facts can be corroborated by sources connected to the subject (such as its own website) and these do not count towards notability.

:So far your draft cites no sources at all, and appears to be based entirely on the subject's website. Most of what you have included should have inline citations to its sources (presumably the website) but the Educational Initiatives section should be removed (Wikipedia is not interested in subjects' own 'mission statements' and the like).

:You need to find several sources completely independent of the subject (which excludes material based on its press releases, or on interviews with its staff) and build the article with summaries of those. To use a culinary analogy, the material you have so far is mostly allowable garnishing, but none of it is the main ingredients. And of course if you cannot identify and use these ingredients, Wikipedia will not accept the recipe. Hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.6.81.243 (talk) 10:54, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi, I have created an article @ User:Born A Geek/Scanty, but the article is not available publicly, is there something I didn’t do or any suggestion on how to make it public Born A Geek (talk) 12:00, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hi, you created your article in the wp:userspace, where it is not visible to the public. The userspace is a place for you to quietly develop your draft or introduce yourself as an editor. To make the article available to public, it has to be in the mainspace, where all articles reside. Technically, you can move your article to mainspace by yourself, but I don't think it is ready to be moved yet. Per Wikipedia's inclusion criteria, Articles generally require significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the topic (see WP:42). The currently cited sources are lackluster. Two of them even has the exact same text. Ca ^{talk to me!} 12:46, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

:When you have done as User:Ca suggests, please submit the article for review, via the process described at WP:AFC. If the reviewer deems it ready, they will publish it to "mainspace". If not thy will give you further advice. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:58, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

How can one reuse sources so that you don't have to type out the ref tag every time? (The abcdefg ref tag thing)

Thanks! Hi I'm Sailing427, but you can call me Sailing. Look at my profile. (talk) 13:21, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

:@Sailing427alt Welcome to the Teahouse. We do this re-use via something called named references. See that link for details. The practicalities are a little different depending on whether you edit via the Visual or Source editor. There is a subsection at Help:Introduction covering referencing with the alternative editors. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:38, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

{{courtesy link|Draft:Alaya The Goddess Mc}}

Hi I received help generating an article about the artist from chat got how can I receive assistance with editing in order to edit my draft and have it published Anuhiphopnation (talk) 18:46, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

: You have already asked this at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk#18:37, 7 June 2025 review of submission by Anuhiphopnation and received replies there. We advise against starting duplicate discussions. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:38, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

Can advanced editors go to the Teahouse for editing? Why do advanced users use the Help Desk, while the new editors use here, (referring to the Teahouse)?I want to use the Teahouse. TweetyBirdIsCoolBoi (talk) 19:50, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

:Anyone can use either; The Teahouse is focussed on newbies and thus more tolerant of newbie errors. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:06, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello. I wasn't sure of the best place to ask this, so I thought I would ask here to be safe! I've uploaded an image to Wikipedia for a draft I am currently working on :File:La Roncière translation.png, it is a screenshot of a page of a book written by Charles de La Roncière called '{{lang|fr|Le Flibustier Mystérieux: Histoire d’un trésor caché|italic=no}}'. La Roncière himself died in 1941. The book is written in French and was published in France in 1934. The screenshot I took is of a digital copy of the book hosted on Flipbuilder https://online.flipbuilder.com/kapali_patrimoine/ygev/index.html. I assume that as 70 years have passed since the author's death in 1941, the book would be in the public domain, at least in France. I am unsure about the USA or if it would be acceptable on Wikipedia currently. Basically I am just double checking this can be used on Wikipedia without violating copyright! Thanks! (Also would greatly appreciate being directed to a more appropriate place to ask these types of questions in future as I am still pretty new to Wikipedia!) 11WB (talk) 20:19, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

: You'd do better to ask at :c:Commons:Village pump/Copyright. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:14, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

::Many thanks for the direction. I was able to get some reassurance from that page! 11WB (talk) 12:10, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Hello! I am writing a page on the artist Natalie White. It has been declined and I've made edits/added sources in line with feedback. Here is the draft. Any suggestions to get it approved would be amazing. Draft:Natalie White. Atelier2002 (talk) 22:37, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, {{u|Atelier2002}}. I first noticed that your draft says {{tpq|After a modeling career as a muse for artists including . . .}}. First of all, that is name-dropping which is not appropriate in encyclopedia articles. (Wow, John Lennon's son!) Secondly, I wanted to see which reference verifies this extraordinary muse claim. It turns out to be a commercial art gallery that sells her work that actually says {{tpq|Her creative drive and unapologetic spirit quickly led her towards more collaborative ventures with artists such as . . .}}. A muse is not defined as someone engaged in something vague like "collaborative ventures" and a commercial gallery that sells her artwork is not a reliable independent source for assessing her career. For that type of content, you need reliable sources entirely independent of the artist and her marketing efforts. And then at the end of the Career section, we've got more industrial strength name-dropping, a list of other artists who have used the same unusually large camera that she sometimes uses. That might be appropriate in the article about the camera, but not in an article about White. Notability is not inherited from using a rare camera also used by famous photographers. We learn of her activism through inappropriate external links to a group that she's involved with, and a website for a protest she organized. We learn that she sold a photo from a reference to the auction house that sold the photo. Not from independent sources in either case. What is lacking is a summary of critical assessment of her work by completely independent art experts, and the appropriate references to back that summary up. The content is over-reliant on non-independent sources and the overall tone is promotional. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for promotion. What is your relationship with White? Cullen328 (talk) 04:16, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi. I want to edit the caption to an image, but the main edit page for the article doesn't include images or any sort of placeholder for them, nor any caption text or way to edit it.

How do I find the place to make such edits?

The article in question is Vercingetorix. The image is one of plaque in a museum in Rome which contains erroneous information that is about 2/3 of the way down on the right.

Thanks!

Chris Lowe (talk) 23:38, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

:Cclowe the edit page for the article does include the image as well as the caption; for instructions on how to add and edit them, you can refer to Help:Pictures. You can try using Ctrl+F for the image caption in the wikitext. Sungodtemple (talk • contribs) 02:25, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

so I need some help with what i believe is formatting, so on a wikipedia page for a company were would you put bad things the company does? HCPM (talk) 04:17, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, {{u|HCPM}}. You can find some good advice in the essay Wikipedia:Criticism. Adhering to the Neutral point of view is mandatory. It is not the role of Wikipedia editors to call things "bad". Just summarize the full range of coverage in reliable sources, and avoid Cherry picking of sources to advance a preferred narrative. Cullen328 (talk) 04:28, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

::okay so.. my apologies as this is an issue with my grasp of english, i dont mean bad in well the sense you think, i mean bad as in this is a negative thing, im so sorry im dumb, but i meant it in the case of "where would i put the negative things a company did" like.. idk if it would help if i give you the wikipedia page but like if a zoo does things that are harmful to animals how would i.. idk man im really sorry, thanks for the help either way! HCPM (talk) 05:03, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:::That is the sense used in the advice above.

:::If you are still not sure, start a discussion on the talk page of the article concerned. Remember that citing sources is vital. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:12, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi,

I’ve created a draft article titled "Adelaide Wyrzynski" at Draft:Adelaide Wyrzynski.

I don’t have the Move tab available to publish it to the main Wikipedia space.

Could someone please assist me by moving the draft to the main article space?

Thank you very much!

Draft:Adelaide Wyrzynski. Coolcook74 (talk) 07:37, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|Cookcook74}} Hello and welcome. New accounts cannot directly create articles, you need to submit the draft for a review. I have added the appropriate information to allow you to do that, but if you were to do so now, it would be declined, as many parts are unsourced. All substantive facts about a living person must be sourced per the Biographies of Living Persons policy.

:I would also note that awards do not contribute to notability unless the awards themselves merit articles(like Nobel Peace Prize or Academy Award). I'm actually skeptical that this person meets the definition of a notable person, though I don't have access to all the information. 331dot (talk) 07:42, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

::The relevant notability criteria would be those at WP:FOOTYN. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:07, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you very much for looking into it, appreciate it. We have tried many years ago and tried again today but probably there isn't much info /source /reference enough to get her info published. Appreciate your help looking into it. Coolcook74 (talk) 11:09, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:::If and when you are sure the notability criteria have been met, and once you have addressed the sourcing issues mentioned above, you can submit your article for review using the process described at WP:AFC. A volunteer will then review it and either publish it or advise what other work is needed. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:10, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi! I have created a draft article here: User:Suarez94/sandbox. Could someone please review it and, if appropriate, move it to the mainspace? Thank you! Suarez94 (talk) 08:55, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hi. Welcome to the Teahouse. Your draft is not submitted for review yet. Please submit it for review after moving it in draft space with suitable draft title. Fade258 (talk) 09:12, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:{{u|Suarez94}}, this is the English-language Wikipedia. Your Draft is written in what I assume is a Slavic language (Croatian?), so it belongs (if it meets their requirements) in the Wikipedia of whatever language it is in.

:Please be aware that every different language's Wikipedia is run as separate project, with different rules, and no Wikipedia (including this one, although it is the oldest and largest) has any authority or influence over any other. I hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.6.81.243 (talk) 09:15, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

::That would be the Croatian language Wikipedia: :hr:. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:03, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Hi. When I browse [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion#How_to_nominate_a_single_page_for_deletion Article for deletion] only, I see a white space on left and right side. Please help me on this. Fade258 (talk) 09:09, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:The [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion#How_to_nominate_a_single_page_for_deletion "mobile" view of "Articles for deletion"] looks bad for me (running Firefox under a Debian derivative) too, Fade258. But the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion#How_to_nominate_a_single_page_for_deletion "desktop" view of the same page] looks good. -- Hoary (talk) 10:45, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

::I also noticed that but Is there any method to solve this? I only face this problem while browsing AfD as while browsing AfC, PROD, NPP etc. it looks good on desktop view. {{U|Hoary}} Fade258 (talk) 13:31, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:::You could ask on WP:VPT. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:44, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

I get the message "You need to verify your login. A verification code has been sent to your email address, please enter that code here." when I try to log in as User:Shshshsh, my regular account. I don't have access to my old email. Shshshsh3 (talk) 13:54, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:Do you have another device on which you are already logged in? If so, use that to update your email address. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:48, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

::@Pigsonthewing: No, I don't. Shshshsh3 (talk) 15:02, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Please explain to me how to edit paragraph AWARDS in article about Karim Rashid. I am trying for few weeks now to edit this article, my intention is to list his awards. I am not his employee nor I have any financial benefit, I am journalist.

So, which awards do I have to mention? How to make text about awards approved?

Am I supposed to mention only some important awards? Or maybe to mention what he won each year?

I saw some articles about famous singers and there is a chart-Full list -mentioning every single award, so is it possible to make same thing for article about Karim Rashid? He won more than 400 awards.

What is best advice you can give me?

I was rejected few times, with a note it is “promotional material” and that it sounds like “advertising”.

so I would really appreciate if you can give me clear instructions how to do this? So I would like to list all his awards in a chart/table, or to write the important awards he won each year.

Thank you very much MarijanaPlay (talk) 15:10, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:Hello and welcome. If you are editing as part of your job as a journalist(whether or not you are associated with a topic), you are a paid editor under our rules.

:Awards should generally only be mentioned if the award itself merits an article, like Nobel Peace Prize or Academy Award or Tony Award. 331dot (talk) 15:24, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

::I am not doing this as a part of my job. I just mentioned what I do, but currently I am unemployed and I do this because I just want to. MarijanaPlay (talk) 15:38, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

:::@331dot MarijanaPlay (talk) 15:39, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Okay, thanks. 331dot (talk) 15:44, 8 June 2025 (UTC)