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• {{Tfd links|FIS Speed Skiing World Cup seasons}}

unused and almost all redlinks Frietjes (talk) 23:11, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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• {{Tfd links|FIFA World Cup Country record}}

unused and out-of-date Frietjes (talk) 23:11, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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• {{Tfd links|FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup Finals}}

unused and redundant to navigation found in Template:FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup Frietjes (talk) 23:10, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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• {{Tfd links|FFCOTF article}}

old and unused (could be moved to a subpage of Wikipedia:Final Fantasy Collaboration of the Fortnight if it's important to keep it) Frietjes (talk) 23:09, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:55, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|FC Ripensia Timișoara squad}}

unused and out-of-date Frietjes (talk) 23:08, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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• {{Tfd links|FC Oleksandriya}}

unused and not needed (has the wrong prefix for the fb template system) Frietjes (talk) 23:08, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:55, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|FC DAC 1904 Dunajská Streda}}

unused and out-of-date Frietjes (talk) 23:07, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:55, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|FC Arsenal-2 Tula squad}}

unused and blanked by primary contibutor Frietjes (talk) 23:05, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:55, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|F1 rejects original drivers}}

all redlinks Frietjes (talk) 23:04, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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• {{Tfd links|EventDecadesInCenturyCat}}
• {{Tfd links|EventYearsInDecadeCat}}

unused Frietjes (talk) 23:02, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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• {{Tfd links|EuropeLargestCities}}

unused, no parent article Frietjes (talk) 23:01, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:56, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Europe Pacific Rugby Trophy}}

all red links Frietjes (talk) 23:00, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2017 December 22. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:56, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

• {{tfd links|Ethiopia_squad_2012_African_Women's_Championship}}

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:56, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|English vowel development, foreign sources}}

unused; should be added to an article or deleted Frietjes (talk) 22:57, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:56, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|England national man football team results}}

unused and redundant to navigation provided within {{tl|England national football team}} Frietjes (talk) 22:56, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:56, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Endurance/out}}
• {{Tfd links|Endurance/in}}
• {{Tfd links|Endurance/two}}

unused subtemplate after refactoring of the parent template (and changes to {{tl|convert}}) Frietjes (talk) 22:53, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:56, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Encode}} (and the subtemplates)

unused, replaced by more specific date parser functions and templates Frietjes (talk) 22:50, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:56, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Election box unrecorded}}
• {{Tfd links|Election box turnout unopposed no change}}
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• {{Tfd links|Election box begin FPTP multimember}}
• {{Tfd links|Election box all independent candidate}}
• {{Tfd links|Election box US hold with party link}}

unused, most likely replaced by other more general election box templates Frietjes (talk) 22:38, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:57, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Eidi-century-range}}
• {{Tfd links|Eidi-decade}}

unused, so presumably not needed for any of the other Eidi templates Frietjes (talk) 22:36, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:57, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Education noticeboard navbox}}
• {{Tfd links|Education noticeboard navbox all}}

unused, archives are using {{tl|archives}} instead. Frietjes (talk) 22:33, 14 December 2017 (UTC) Frietjes (talk) 22:33, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:57, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Mainstream R&B/Hip-Hop}}

unused Frietjes (talk) 22:25, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete per author approval Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 22:27, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Apple Specialists}}

As template creator. Apple recently has established a new category, eliminating calling this sort of retailer "specialist." My intention was to find these specialists across the country and write about notable ones. This didn't work out... BusterD (talk) 19:36, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

• you could probably have this speedy deleted using {{tl|db-author}}. as far as I can tell you are the only substantial contributor to the template. Frietjes (talk) 20:13, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
• Delete - It's redundant to :Category:Apple Specialists. I added a list of notable ones to the article's contents. Warren -talk- 20:46, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was merge with the article and keep article-space redirects to preserve the edit history Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:00, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Infobox algiz}} (and the rest of the infoboxes in :Category:Rune infoboxes)

single-use infoboxes which can be merged with the parent articles (now that I have migrated them to use {{tl|infobox rune}}). Frietjes (talk) 18:20, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

• please do not delete, but if necessary turn into redirect, in order to preserve edit history! --dab (𒁳) 22:10, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:57, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Warped Tour}}

Not enough active links to warrant a navbox. --woodensuperman 16:49, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

• Delete - This template is full of red links. Nav templates are for navigating between Wikipedia articles that already exist -- otherwise, it's not really a nav template, is it? Warren -talk- 20:40, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
• Delete – The articles used to exist, but were deleted after several WP:PRODs and a discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Warped Tour 2002 Tour Compilation (2nd nomination). The desire to delete this template was also discussed in that deletion discussion (without objection). —BarrelProof (talk) 23:49, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was keep mostly due to the lack of working merged template example. If you would still like to see the templates merged, please feel free to create a working example demonstrating the merger and restart the discussion. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:04, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Ahnentafel top|type=merge}}
• {{Tfd links|Ahnentafel-compact4|type=merge}}
• {{Tfd links|Ahnentafel-compact5|type=merge}}
• {{Tfd links|Ahnentafel-compact6|type=merge}}
• {{Tfd links|Ahnentafel bottom|type=merge}}

Propose merging Template:Ahnentafel bottom with Template:Ahnentafel-compact5.

Suggest merging all preexisting templates in :Category:Ahnentafel formatting templates into Template:Ahnentafel-compact5 (please note that the ones listed in the category but not here below were locked for unknown reasons). The final template would then be called perhaps simply Template:Ahnentafel. Reasons for this merge is that it should be possibly to merge with code into one single, unified template. This template would then possibly contain different amount of places - ergo generations - as is already the case, only that this could be indicated and visually exemplified in the template documentation in a more suitable way. This solution of one merged template would make only one such be the subject of discussion of style - arguably the preexisting one - which would then make biographical articles more consistent, and the template use more easy for Wikipedians to apply. Chicbyaccident (talk) 13:20, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

:comment How do you suggest to make the new template easy-to-use? It sounds like you want one template. It seems quite easy to use e.g. {{tl|Ahnentafel-compact4}} and {{tl|Ahnentafel-compact4}}. Christian75 (talk) 12:11, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

:Keep (do not merge) - It's easy enough to use the different templates. This is not a system that needs to be fixed. Also, no working template (with working example) has been proposed to replace these templates. - tucoxn\^talk 14:46, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

:Keep but feel free to create the single template and re-propose merging. I don't think we should agree to delete the current ones until the new one is ready and testable. --Bermicourt (talk) 20:54, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

:Question If all of these templates are going to be deleted, then who will be in charge of going through each page and reinstating the preferred template with all of the correct information.--MorrisIV (talk) 01:57, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

:Keep Don't fix it if it ain't broken. SpartaN (talk) 04:19, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

: Keep unless you can create a robot that will convert all existing pages using this. --Michael Goodyear (talk) 03:24, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

:: Besides which, what happens to the table I am working on right now? --Michael Goodyear (talk) 21:16, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

: Keep per Tucoxn, SpartaN and others who actually use these templates and understand how they work. —Мандичка^YO 😜 10:38, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

:Keep because seriously, don't we have bigger problems? This is very easy to use and economical, and I get a great deal of information from these charts. Please find something else to do besides gripe about things that are working just fine. Iamvered (talk) 19:22, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

:Keep compact6 reaches to also hyperlink in two jumps to third cousins, which reasearch has shown to usually have healthier than average children. Also many military alliances and long-standing dynastic disputes in medieval age were based on relationships where the compact6 ahnentafel is useful.68.40.122.133 (talk) 05:43, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

: Merge. While this is clearly going to fail through lack of consensus, I'd strongly recommend creating the merged template as a proof-of-concept, as Bermicourt suggested. Given the numbering is consistent in {{lang|de|Ahnentafeln}}, it shouldn't be too difficult to render generations conditionally. Once the template exists and can be shown with examples of different numbers of generations (and examples of more-unusual states, with only 1 or 2 members of a generation are populated for example, such as 20 and 21 but noone else from 16 onwards), then the argument might be more persuasive. — OwenBlacker (talk) 21:57, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

: Keep it is easy to understand and navigate and quite useful as a jumping off point for further research. Royalty2012 (talk) 22:50, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

: Keep The templates have been working just fine for years and are found on (I would guess) hundreds if not thousands of articles that would be disrupted if one little line of code went wrong in some "new and improved" template. So please - Don't screw with a good thing! Leave it alone and go work on something that really, truly needs fixing. Textorus (talk) 10:54, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

:Keep Honestly isn't a big problem. Why can't we keep it? It really doesn't matter, so let's not inconvenience users who've already got those pages bookmarked.--- Anonymous Nyan Cat(talk)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:58, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Kim Hee-chul}}
• {{Tfd links|Kim Heechul}}

These templates are duplicates of each other. The inclusion of the subject's filmography violates WP:FILMNAV. This leaves the discography and publications sections; none of the topics have articles, so there is nothing to link. This leaves little to navigate, and is ultimately useless. ℯxplicit 06:09, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

• Delete both of them. Sawol (talk) 04:26, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
• Delete both of them, obviously. An alternative may be to delete one, and make the other one useful, but I don't know how difficult that'll be. It's probably best to delete both. Anonymous Nyan Cat (talk) 18:04, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
• Delete both per nom. --woodensuperman 14:30, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2017 December 22. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:02, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

• {{tfd links|CC_BY-ND_2.5_IN}}

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:01, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Hungama TV Original Series}}

Unnecessary, not all shows are Hungama original programming and all aired shows can be found in Wikipedia article "List of programs broadcast by Hungama TV" User 261115 (talk) 13:51, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

• Comment. This should probably be trimmed of non-original content first, so we can see what is left. --woodensuperman 16:43, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
• Delete. As far as I can make out, the only original content is Hero - Bhakti Hi Shakti Hai. It's the only article that the navbox is transcluded on in any case, so provides negligible navigation. --woodensuperman 16:45, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2017 December 22. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 04:02, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

• {{tfd links|Opal_fare_caps}}
• {{tfd links|Opal_station_access_fee}}

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