Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018 October 26

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:36, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Learjet aircraft|module=}}

Already coved in {{tl|Bombardier aircraft}}. Not needed. – ^(t@lk) 20:35, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

• Delete - unnecessary replication. Cavalryman V31 (talk) 06:11, 27 October 2018 (UTC).

:: Keep upon closer inspection, per below. Cavalryman V31 (talk) 11:38, 28 October 2018 (UTC).

• Delete per nom Hhkohh (talk) 08:52, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
• keep per below Hhkohh (talk) 04:57, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
• Keep despite the Bombardier template some of these aircraft have nothing to do with Bombardier, they were built and designed long before the Canadian company was involved. MilborneOne (talk) 18:32, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

:{{ping|MilborneOne}} the point in there's unnecessary replication. The fact that some of the aircraft have nothing to do with Bombardier doesn't mean the should have their own navbox. – ^(t@lk) 21:34, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

::Contrary, Learjet was a different company that produced most of the Learjets so it is the Bombardier template that needs amending but that is not the subject of this discussion. Nearly all major aircraft producers have a navbox so why treat Learjet any different. MilborneOne (talk) 22:05, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

• Keep - I agree with MilborneOne above. And this seems to be a rehashing of a previous discussion from two years ago. I doubt that opinions have changed. --Colin Douglas Howell (talk) 22:19, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
• Keep per MilborneOne. The Bombardier template contains the De Havilland Dash 8 as well as the Learjet family. Duplication of this kind appears to be more widespread than is acknowledged by BrandonXLF’s nomination. Dolphin (t) 22:25, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
• Keep per MilborneOne. --Marc Lacoste (talk) 08:42, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
• Keep two different boxes with different historical models, even with some overlap. The boxes both serve to help readers understand the two companys and their model lines. - Ahunt (talk) 15:17, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
• Keep I can think of no reason to delete this template, it seems like a useful navigation tool.--Paul McDonald (talk) 05:10, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:35, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Ahmed Sofa|module=}}

One blue link in a whole navbox cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 18:09, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

• Delete - a navbox that doesn’t navigate. Cavalryman V31 (talk) 20:22, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
• delete per nom Hhkohh (talk) 08:52, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:34, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Milton Wildcats football coach navbox|module=}}

This doesn't really need a navbox. The school no longer exists, so there's not really a chance of expanding it and only two of the links are blue. cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 18:07, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

• Comment the fact that the school/program is defunct is irrelevant to whether or not the navbox should be deleted. However, I agree that two links are insufficient. If two more are created then it should be kept-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 18:45, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
• Just to clarify, I'm not saying that the template should be deleted because the program is defunct. I'm saying that because the program is defunct, that navbox will not have any new coaches to add to it, and thus will never be large enough to justify existing. cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 19:47, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
• Keep: as UCO2009bluejay stated above, that the school is defunct is wholly irrelevant. I had pieced the post-World War II era of this navbox together a few days ago from news articles, but I just found a document listing all the coaches from the program's inception in 1899 to its dissolution after the 1981 season. The navbox now has four navigable links including the redirect in the title, which is sufficient for its existence. Jweiss11 (talk) 22:01, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
• delete per nom. We do not create navbox for non-existed locations Hhkohh (talk) 08:52, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

::{{Ping|Hhkohh}} can you clarify what you mean by "non-existed locations"? Did you mean to say "non-existing locations". There is no prohibition on creating navboxes for entities that no longer exist, e.g. Template:Ancient Rome military and countless other examples. Jweiss11 (talk) 17:08, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

• Keep. Navbox has now been expanded, and now has four blue links, which is sufficient for navigation. Ejgreen77 (talk) 13:02, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
• Delete Fails WP:NAVBOX #4: {{tq|There should be a Wikipedia article on the subject of the template.|q=yes}} As an aside, not only is there no standalone artice on the list of coaches, there's not even a standalone article on even their football program or athletic program in general.—Bagumba (talk) 08:17, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

::{{Ping|Bagumba}} there is now an article for Milton Wildcats football. Will you withdraw or change your opinion here? Jweiss11 (talk) 16:19, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

:::We should also note that WP:NAVBOX states that "Good templates generally follow some of these guidelines:..." [my emphasis in italics]. Some more latitude on point #4 cited by Bagumba should be given here to navboxes of this class stemming from a consensus established in 2010 to use navboxes instead of succession boxes for American college and pro head coaching positions. Jweiss11 (talk) 16:24, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

::::Striking my "aside" comments. My point on NAVBOX #4 still stands. At a minimum, I expect a navbox or succession box to be based off of a standalone list as a way to filter out significant sequences vs. WP:FANCRUFT.—Bagumba (talk) 00:21, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

:::::If it makes you feel any better, we could easily put together an article for List of Milton Wildcats head football coaches as so many other similar programs have (List of Southwestern Moundbuilders head football coaches, List of Adrian Bulldogs head football coaches, List of Wheaton Thunder head football coaches, etc.) But Wikipedia is not being built in an orderly fashion, so it hasn't been made yet. Still, we could make such an article if that would do the trick for you. (Somebody will make it soon I'm sure...)--Paul McDonald (talk) 05:08, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

::::::I'm looking for evidence that WP:LISTN would be met, not just that we can find stat listings. Cheers.—Bagumba (talk) 05:15, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

:Note: This discussion has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Paul McDonald (talk) 04:11, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

• Keep Seems to be a good navbox. A few redlinks for articles that have yet been created, but Wikipedia is far from complete and is not being built in an organized fashion. Those are editing issues, not deletion issues.--Paul McDonald (talk) 04:14, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
• Keep – there are enough links now. Corky 06:14, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete. Misplaced WP:CSD#A7 -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:05, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Jacob Ling-Vannerus|module=}}

Not a template, and obviously created by the subject or his representative. cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 17:56, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

• Delete - not a template. Cavalryman V31 (talk) 20:25, 26 October 2018 (UTC).
• delete per nom Hhkohh (talk) 08:52, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:33, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Kamalesh chaudhary|module=}}

Not a template. cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 17:54, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

• Delete - not a template. Cavalryman V31 (talk) 20:26, 26 October 2018 (UTC).
• delete per nom Hhkohh (talk) 08:52, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:32, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|BOY STORY|module=}}

Doesn't aid in navigation. The two links aren't even members of the band. cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 17:51, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

• Delete - navigates to non-topic pages. Cavalryman V31 (talk) 20:28, 26 October 2018 (UTC).
• Delete per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 10:15, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
• Delete In ictu oculi (talk) 17:03, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:32, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Power Drive|module=}}

Unnecessary navbox. cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 17:44, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

• Delete - unnecessary, both pages should have inline links. Cavalryman V31 (talk) 20:29, 26 October 2018 (UTC).

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:31, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|School of Engineering and Computer Science|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|School of Environmental Science and Management|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|School of Business|module=}}
• {{Tfd links|School of Public Health|module=}}

User accidentally created page while meaning to create an external link on Independent University, Bangladesh. The templates have been replaced with links in proper format on that page. cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 17:09, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

• Delete - not templates. Cavalryman V31 (talk) 20:30, 26 October 2018 (UTC).
• Delete not needed. – ^(t@lk) 20:38, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
• delete per nom Hhkohh (talk) 08:52, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:31, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Pomeranian|module=}}

Seems to be accidental/test creation cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 17:01, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

• Delete - seems to be a confused attempt at Pomeranian (dog). Cavalryman V31 (talk) 20:10, 26 October 2018 (UTC).
• Delete as a copy-and-paste of the lede of Pomeranian (dog), and advise the creator to use their sandbox in future. – Uanfala (talk) 11:56, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:30, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Ocean Grove|module=}}

Navbox doesn't really aid in navigation, with only 3 blue links cymru.lass (talk • contribs) 16:59, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

• Delete - two links, both linked through the band’s page. Cavalryman V31 (talk) 20:12, 26 October 2018 (UTC).

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:26, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|East Coast Conference (Division I) Men's Basketball Tournament navbox|module=}}

Has just one link. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 15:09, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

• Delete - one blue link. Cavalryman V31 (talk) 20:31, 26 October 2018 (UTC).
• delete per nom Hhkohh (talk) 08:53, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Could be recreated if the articles are ever created. Rikster2 (talk) 17:23, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:27, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Great Midwest Conference Men's Basketball Tournament navbox|module=}}

Has no links. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 15:08, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

• Delete - navbox that doesn’t navigate. Cavalryman V31 (talk) 20:32, 26 October 2018 (UTC).
• delete per nom Hhkohh (talk) 08:52, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Could be recreated if the articles are ever created. Rikster2 (talk) 17:23, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by {{admin|Athaenara}} AnomieBOT⚡ 06:06, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Countdown2|module=}}

Orphan template for more than 2 years B dash (talk) 13:12, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

: {{ping|B dash}} You made :Template:Countdown2 so it can be deleted under WP:CSD#G7 if you approve to it. Pkbwcgs (talk) 13:48, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

:: This also includes the other five template you nominated for deletion below were created by you. Pkbwcgs (talk) 13:51, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by {{admin|Athaenara}} AnomieBOT⚡ 06:06, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|Countdown clock|module=}}

Orphan template for more than 2 years, with some minor errors related to the format B dash (talk) 13:09, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

: {{ping|B dash}} You made :Template:Countdown clock so it can be deleted under WP:CSD#G7 if you approve to it. Pkbwcgs (talk) 13:48, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by {{admin|Sphilbrick}} AnomieBOT⚡ 17:12, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|TC stats impact|module=}}

Orphan template for more than 3 years B dash (talk) 13:03, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by {{admin|Sphilbrick}} AnomieBOT⚡ 17:12, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|TC stats cyclone|module=}}

Orphan template, replaced by Template:TC stats cyclone3 B dash (talk) 13:02, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by {{admin|Sphilbrick}} AnomieBOT⚡ 17:12, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|TC stats table end|module=}}

Orphan template, replaced by Template:TC stats table end3 B dash (talk) 13:01, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by {{admin|Sphilbrick}} AnomieBOT⚡ 17:12, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

• {{Tfd links|TC stats table start|module=}}

Orphan template, replaced by Template:TC stats table start3 B dash (talk) 13:00, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2018 November 3. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 09:22, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

• {{tfd links|FCI_6}}

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2018 November 3. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:25, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

• {{tfd links|FCI_1}}
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• {{tfd links|FCI_7}}

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2018 November 4. (non-admin closure) Pkbwcgs (talk) 21:51, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

• {{tfd links|S-Japanese_episode_list}}
• {{tfd links|S-Episode_list}}

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2018 November 4. (non-admin closure) Pkbwcgs (talk) 21:50, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

• {{tfd links|DecadesBC}}

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