Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2025 April 14

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== [[Template:Edge Spectrum stations]] ==

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:25, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

{{Tfd links|Edge Spectrum stations}}

Violates WP:EXISTING, as almost all of the links are redirects or redlinks and it is only included in the article of Edge Spectrum itself, which is where most of the links redirect to. Tdl1060 (talk) 22:04, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:59, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

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== [[Template:AMG ref]] ==

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The result of the discussion was delete the unused template without merging. ✗plicit 00:24, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

{{Tfd links|AMG ref|module= |type=merge}}
{{Tfd links|AllMusic|module= |type=merge}}

Propose merging Template:AMG ref with Template:AllMusic.

While the style is slightly different, I don't see how this serves any purpose that the main AllMusic template doesn't already provide. AMG ref isn't utilized in any articles, but are there elements to that could be merged into the longstanding {{tl|AllMusic}}? Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 21:48, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

:Delete the entirely unused template. We don't need to speculate on uses for it if the current template works. Izno (talk) 16:37, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

::Good enough for me. Thanks Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 17:29, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

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== [[Template:R from how-to name]] ==

{{Tfd links|R from how-to name}}
{{Tfd links|Redirects from how-to names|catfd=yes}}

Been mulling this around for a while, trying to decide what's the best course of action for this template, and ... I believe it's deletion. About 5 years ago, it seems this template had a TfD for similar reasons I'm about to allude:

(Note, this template was previously discussed in 2020 at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2020 August 9#Template:R from how-to name.)

The problem with this template and its respective category existing is that it can potentially validate the existence of redirects that have WP:NOTHOWTO-ish titling issues. For a bit of history on this, for a while now, at WP:RFD, there have been various discussions about such redirects where such redirects have been deleted, though the discussions themselves did not result in uncontroversial deletion. (For reference, here's a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?fulltext=Search+archives&fulltext=Search&prefix=Wikipedia%3ARedirects+for+d&search=WP%3ANOTHOWTO&ns0=1 search for RfD subpages that contain "WP:NOTHOWTO"].) In addition, there are other venues to find such titles, such as Special:PrefixIndex/How to. This template (and its category) could be seen as potentially misleading (by validating the tagged redirects' existences) and potentially arguing that these redirects are okay per the fact the template and category exist at all. Steel1943 (talk) 21:25, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

Delete WP:NOTHOWTO we should not encourage the preception that how-to's exist here. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 06:30, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
Honestly it sounds like you're arguing for a rename of the category and not for a deletion of the template and/or making it clear on the category its purpose. It is clear that we accept redirects on misspellings, as an example of places where we would rather not, and knowing which words aren't apropos helps us in that duty. Izno (talk) 16:38, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
:On that note, I think this probably would have better been some sort of RFC or discussion at WT:Redirects or in that direction. Izno (talk) 16:39, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
:{{Ping|Izno}} I ... sort of expected a comment such as this, and already had a planned rebuttal, but wasn't going to chime in with it until I needed to: Sounds like then the alternative idea is for the category to be a maintenance category that is intended to be empty. But no, I'm arguing for the deletion of both; yeah, we can "accept" them, but the existence of a redirect category (and, in extension, its RCAT template) without being a maintenance category intended to be empty can be misconstrued as such redirects "being okay", which is not 100% true and a subject of controversy. Steel1943 (talk) 19:23, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
::Also, regarding the choice of XfD venue, note the following at WP:CFD#HOWTO:
"* If a category is populated solely by a template (other than a stub template, see #Stub types below) and you are proposing to delete both the category and template, follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion."
...meaning TFD is the correct place for this. Steel1943 (talk) 19:30, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
::The suggestion for location was more a comment on who is going to know things about redirects. My observation is that very few people who care about redirects also participate at TFD, if any (see also WP:TFDH currently holding a marker about one such issue from multiple years ago which may or may not have been done in the meantime), so a preliminary discussion gathering opinions from people who do care was what I was suggesting. Of course this is the place for a template to be deleted, ignoring stubs. (Might be interesting to shuffle these redirect templates off to RFD like stubs are at CFD.)
::{{tq|alternative idea is for the category to be a maintenance category that is intended to be empty}} No, this comment in fact goes further even than my intention. We can track such things but we don't necessarily have to do anything with them. If there are people making pages in contravention of WP:NOTHOWTO, or including information contravening such, I don't think the presence of this category holding redirects is going to fix that. Or even suggest that we accept such. (NB I don't care what ultimately happens but can see the value in allowing tracking. It's not the first template to do so e.g. the {{tl|ASIN}} discussion currently elsewhere on TFD as well as many previous discussions about the likes of {{tl|cite tweet}}.)
::{{tq|not 100% true and a subject of controversy}} I mean, TFD rarely does controversial deletions well. :) Why don't you go advertise this TFD at a couple relevant pages and see what people who do care think here? Izno (talk) 22:39, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
:::Soo... At this point, you seem to be suggesting that I close this, open a CFD, and then expect a "wrong forum" close? 😅 Steel1943 (talk) 23:13, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
::::Uh, what? The parenthetical there is about a future change, not this discussion. I am however emphatically suggesting you advertise this TFD. Izno (talk) 23:31, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

== [[Template:Oscar nominees 2025]] ==

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2025 April 22. ✗plicit 00:20, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

{{tfd links|Oscar_nominees_2025}}

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== [[Template:CSD subcategory header2]] ==

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:19, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

{{Tfd links|CSD subcategory header2}}

Seems like an unnecessary fork of Template:CSD subcategory header with its only main difference being the nominated template does not transclude {{Tl|Admin backlog}}. This template has only 1 transclusion. I'd recommend replacing the sole transclusion of this template with {{Tl|CSD subcategory header}} or update Template:CSD subcategory header to allow removing the transclusion of {{Tl|Admin backlog}} via a switch with it being transcluded being the default if the switch parameter has no value assigned. Steel1943 (talk) 20:42, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

:Delete per nom. I think adding a simple {{para|backlog|no}} to Template:CSD subcategory header would suffice. House Blaster (talk • he/they) 04:56, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:59, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

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== [[Template:RCD Espanyol seasons]] ==

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2025 April 22. ✗plicit 00:21, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

{{tfd links|RCD_Espanyol_seasons}}

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== [[Template:Election record]] ==

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:17, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

{{Tfd links|Election record}}

No transclusions, valid documentation, or incoming links. Appears to be an abandoned experiment. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:50, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:59, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

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== [[Template:I18n]] ==

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2025 April 22. ✗plicit 00:28, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

{{tfd links|I18n}}

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== [[Template:Tml4]] ==

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete as WP:G7, author request. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:54, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

{{Tfd links|Tml4}}

No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:48, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

:I forgot everything about the template, let it be deleted. – Raph ael 20:44, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

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== [[Template:Tpj]] ==

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:17, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

{{Tfd links|Tpj}}

No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:47, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:59, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

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== [[Template:China Monopoly board layout]] ==

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:17, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

{{Tfd links|China Monopoly board layout}}

Unused wrapper for {{tl|Monopoly board detail}}. Not needed, since there are no template parameters here. If this content is needed, the "detail" template can be used in an article directly, as shown at List of licensed and localized editions of Monopoly: Africa and Asia. I also wonder whether these board layouts are copyright violations, but that is probably a topic for another venue. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:39, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:59, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

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== [[Template:Arizona Rattlers retired numbers]] ==

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:17, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

{{Tfd links|Arizona Rattlers retired numbers}}

No transclusions, incoming links, documentation, or template parameters. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:34, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:59, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

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== [[Template:ArticleResult]] ==

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 19:15, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

{{Tfd links|ArticleResult}}

[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=insource%3A%22Template%3AArticleResult%22&title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns3=1 Zero actual uses in the insource search]. And I don't see this as helpful; I can't say notifying people of closed RfCs is done frequently. Nor would such notifications be a good use of editor time. Delete it. House Blaster (talk • he/they) 18:58, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:59, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

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== [[Template:Jason Bateman]] ==

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 19:15, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

{{Tfd links|Jason Bateman}}

Only links to two films; doesn't meet guidelines at MOS:FILM#Navigation. DoubleCross (‡) 14:24, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:59, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

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== [[Template:Sort table]] ==

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:14, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

{{Tfd links|Sort table}}

I tried to use this template (which invokes a matching module) and could not get it to work. Only example of it in use is in creator's sandbox, and it doesn't seem to work, either. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 00:23, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

Delete: not sure what this was even supposed to be. Vestrian24Bio 09:41, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

:If deleted, Module:Sort table should go also. Gonnym (talk) 16:46, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:59, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

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