Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Discoveries/Log/2007/November

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The result of the debate was upmerge

Unproposed, and although it contains 38 stubs, it is questionable whether it will reach threshold (there are in total 101 articles in {{cl|London Overground}} - it would need 60% of them to be stubs to reach threshold). The template name also distinctly needs changing - not only is this not a subtype of overground-stub (which doesn't exist), but the name is also a proper noun (there is no such thing as London overground). It should thus be {{tl|LondonOverground-stub}} if this is to be kept. Grutness...wha? 23:29, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

:Mea Culpa, I didn't propose it first. Basically because this is a refining of a previous stub type (London Railway stations) due to the recent transfer of four lines to the new London Overground. It is both logical and obvious to transfer them to such a 'better' stub subgroup, alongside the pre-existing London Underground stubs. As to the naming, {{cl|London-tube-stub}} is used to produce the underground ones, so {{cl|London-overground-stub}} is a logical name for the overground services also run by TfL. --AlisonW (talk) 00:09, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

:ps. I am still going through the current articles relating to LOG; so far I had only checked all the station ones. --AlisonW (talk) 00:10, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

::Basically, London-tube-stub is called that because it's a subtype of metro-stub - it's just that the "Metro" in London is known to most people as the tube. London Overground is a distinct company, though, so would normally get the company's name camel case and unhyphenated. Grutness...wha? 00:23, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

:::Except that London Overground is not a distinct company; it is a brand of Transport for London's services, just as London Underground, DLR, etc are. I'm not especially bothered by the exact textual linkname, but given that is a 'stub' for articles about 'London overground' then it does seem rather logical!. btw, of the 100-odd articles, I reckon 49 (ie half) are stubs - and that is before I've gone through the articles on the extensions under construction or planned. That is a lot of work to be done and the new stub cat makes improving them easier to locate within what had previously been a very large stub-sort. --AlisonW (talk) 00:41, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

• Now links to 48 items. Her Pegship (tis herself) 00:07, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was deleted

orphaned, so I put it in :Category:Wikipedia stubs, but otherwise unchecked. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:36, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

• Um... you may not realise this BHG, but {{cl|Wikipedia stubs}} is for stubs about Wikipedia. So, unless StarCraft is part of Wikimedia/Wikipedia, it doesn't belong there. The category is also misnamed ("Stubs" should be l.c.). See also below, where the similarly unproposed template is listed. Grutness...wha? 23:10, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

:Thanks for the correction. My my aim in categorising it there was to put it some place where was likely to be noticed by stub specialists, and next time I'll know which root sub categ to use. The note below that the stub was "well-formed" suggested to me that the orphaned category with its incorrec t capitalisation may not have been noticed. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:09, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

::It was added later - when I reported the template, it was upmerged into a general fighting games stub category (as well as about three other categories - see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:StarCraft-stub&oldid=171817344 here]). Rather than replace the redundant categories with this one, though, it's simply been added on the end, so the template's even messier than before. Grutness...wha? 00:06, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

:::Good thing I listed it, then :) --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:49, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

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Unproposed, but reasonably well formed and upmerged, though it seems to link to far too many categories. Grutness...wha? 00:55, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was take British- types to sfd

It appears that we have picked up a number of variations here

• {{Cl|United Kingdom film stubs}} / {{Tl|British-film-stub}} & {{tl|UK-film-stub}} as a redirect
• {{Cl|British film stubs}}

I don't think we need both. The easiest solution, i think, would be to delete the British cat and reverse the redirects on the Uk cat. Waacstats 16:23, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

• Delete the British cat and the "British-" template, too (we don't have any other "British-x-stub" redirects, and it's adjectival which is non-standard). The UK pair are fine and standardly named. Grutness...wha? 00:03, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the debate was upmerge

Upmerged, and looks a sensible enough template type, though i question the name - do we normally abbreviate to RC? Grutness...wha? 01:36, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

:Hi there, I'm sorry but I didn't knew that policy. I created that stub template in good faith just because there where already: {{tl|RC-bishop-stub}} and {{tl|RC-clergy-stub}}, and because with the new consistory for the creation of new cardinals should be added to the new biographies, as I did. ;) --Nicola Romani 10:10, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

:Well, it's not a policy, but it is a strong recommendation - since we're the ones who sort stubs, we need to know what categories they're being sorted into, and often new stub templates and categories don't conform to standard naming and other similar features. Proposal first makes sure there aren't any things overlooked by stub creators (prevention of glitches is usually far easier than cure!). In the case of this stub, given that the bishops and clergy use "RC", there's probably no problem, as long as this reaches a useful usage level (a category with fewer than 60 or so stubs is usually more work than helpful). It seems likely this will reach that level, given the number of cardinals there are likely to be articles for. Grutness...wha? 11:34, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

::The template looks fine and so does its name but it needs to be populated better. In the unlikely event that it doesn't populate properly, we can always keep the template and upmerge it. Valentinian ^{T / C} 10:37, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

• Now has 24 items. Her Pegship (tis herself) 00:06, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

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