Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/Archive/2009/February

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The following are viable by from relevant upmerged templates

• {{Cl|French boxing biography stubs}} - {{Tl|France-boxing-bio-stub}}
• {{Cl|Polish boxing biography stubs}} - {{Tl|Poland-boxing-bio-stub}}

Speedy anyone. Waacstats (talk) 01:26, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Speedy Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 10:58, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

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Soon will be around 800 stubs. I would recommend splitting by region of Vietnam in categories. The regions are as follows Northwest{{·}} Northeast{{·}} Red River Delta{{·}} North Central Coast{{·}} South Central Coast{{·}} Central Highlands{{·}} Southeast{{·}} Mekong River Delta

However I reckon it may be worth creating upmerged templates for every province of Vietnam if we are to consider the situation more long term. Sometime I'll get around to adding the communes of Vietnam which will make this split very reasonable. I propose creating the following templates and upmerging to the new regional splits. So for example CauMau-geo-stub would feed into {{cl|Mekong River Delta geography stubs}}. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 21:19, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

• {{cl|Northwest Vietnam geography stubs}}
• {{cl|Northeast Vietnam geography stubs}}
• {{cl|Red River Delta geography stubs}}
• {{cl|North Central Coast geography stubs}}
• {{cl|South Central Coast geography stubs}}
• {{cl|Central Highlands geography stubs}}
• {{cl|Southeast Vietnam geography stubs}}
• {{cl|Mekong River Delta geography stubs}}

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{{col-3}}

• {{tl|AnGiang-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|BaRiaVungTau-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|BacGiang-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|BacKan-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|BacLieu-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|BacNinh-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|BenTre-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|BinhDinh-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|BinhDuong-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|BinhPhuoc-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|BinhThuan-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|CaMau-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|CanTho-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|CaoBang-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|DaNang-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|DakLak-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|DakNong-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|DienBien-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|DongNai-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|DongThap-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|GiaLai-geo-stub}}

{{col-3}}

• {{tl|HaGiang-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|HaNam-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|HaTinh-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|HaiDuong-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|HaiPhong-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|Hanoi-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|HauGiang-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|HoChiMinhCity-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|HoaBinh-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|HungYen-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|KhanhHoa-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|KienGiang-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|KonTum-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|LaiChau-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|LamDong-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|LangSon-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|LaoCai-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|LongAn-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|NamDinh-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|NgheAn-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|NinhBinh-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|NinhThuan-geo-stub}}

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• {{tl|PhuTho-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|PhuYen-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|QuangBinh-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|QuangNam-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|QuangNgai-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|QuangNinh-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|QuangTri-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|SocTrang-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|SonLa-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|TayNinh-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|ThaiBinh-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|ThaiNguyen-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|ThanhHoa-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|ThuaThienHue-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|TienGiang-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|TraVinh-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|TuyenQuang-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|VinhLong-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|VinhPhuc-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|YenBai-geo-stub}}

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• {{tl|AnGiang-geo-stub}}, {{tl|ThuaThienHue-geo-stub}} two minor corrections. Also I thought we used diacretics in template names, with redirects from names with out the diacertics, surely some of these need the diacretics. Besides all that I support the Idea. Waacstats (talk) 09:03, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

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Oversized category, currently sorting to newly created templates and the following are over 60, more may follow.

• {{tl|France-politician-Socialist-stub}} - {{cl|French Socialist party politican stubs}}
• {{tl|France-politician-UMP-stub}} - {{Cl|Union for a Popular Movement politician stubs}}

Waacstats (talk) 13:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Support, surprised no others are viable too. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 20:18, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

:There probably will be others, I've still got over 800 to check. Waacstats (talk) 09:17, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

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Create as a parent category to house the stubs by country and perhaps any outstanding films which don't hit 60. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 19:00, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

• Support Per the recent re-org of the "by country" stub cats for films, and a handy new category to house the recently created Sri-Lanka film stub! Lugnuts (talk) 19:40, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

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Advise we organise Food and drink stubs a little better. Many of the soups are not even stub categorized. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 18:51, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

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Plan to template the following by nationality, categories for any over 60

• {{Cl|European boxing biography stubs}}
• {{Cl|European athletics biography stubs}}
• {{Cl|Asia political party stubs}}
• {{Cl|Asian school stubs}}

Waacstats (talk) 15:06, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Strong support -Especially schools. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 18:49, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

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Templateing this by country, 2 questions remain.

:How do we deal with people who won medals competing for Serbia and Montenegro? Do we classify them under serbia-,Montenegro- templates or do we have a seperate template.

:How do we deal with people who won medals competing for the Unified team? Do we classift them as USSR-, their later nationality or with a UnifiedTeam- template? Waacstats (talk) 15:01, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Politics is the root of all problems huh? I'm not sure, perhaps administer both templates or use the perosns place of birth (either current day Serbia or Montenegro) to judge. you could always create templates to make it easier. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 18:49, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

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my first nomination here. There are about 30 article can fit into this type.--Chanaka L (talk) 17:58, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Categories require 60 articles minimum. I would support {{tl|SriLanka-film-stub}} though. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 18:00, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

:Right then, give us {{tl|SriLanka-film-stub}}. Cheers!--Chanaka L (talk) 18:05, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Sure, I'm certain the others will have no objection. Perhaps you could stub 30 films and make the category viable? Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 18:41, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

If you want to go ahead and create the category if you intend to ensure there are at least 60 asap then I have no objections either. But that would probably require more input from the others so I should wait for that. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 18:47, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

:{{thank you}} Dr.Blofeld, about category; I usually don't write film articles. I wanted it for maintenance purposes. But in a year or so we'll have that much. Let's see then. Best of Luck!--Chanaka L (talk) 04:07, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

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Bot generated now has 3000 stubs. Any suggestions? Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 17:55, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Could split by main {{cl|Algae taxonomic classes}} but could probably still use further divisional split. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 17:57, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

:We now have over 5000. The two existing sub-categories appear to be classes, so lets start with that level and see how we do. Only problem is not all the classes have articles yet. Waacstats (talk) 15:14, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

A matter of time perhaps... Really we ought to contact the bot runner and get him to come to an agreement with stub sorting. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 18:47, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

{{cl|European archaeology stubs}} is of moderate size, and a by-country template split looks desirable (a UK-archaeology-stub would easily pass threshold, as well). Problem is, of course, that we're dealing with ancient history in countries notorious for the changes in borders over that time. Personally, I'd favour the usual "current borders" principle, but if there are better ideas, voice 'em. I'd like to at least propose a {{tl|UK-archaeology-stub}} / {{cl|United Kingdom archaeology stubs}}, and suggest debating on the rest. Grutness...wha? 01:06, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

:Permanent parent cat is split by curent nation so I see no problem in by country templates, categories for any that reach 60.Waacstats (talk) 11:00, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Support Me neither Waacs. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 17:55, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

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This Category has over 200 stub articles.

The template {{tlx|BMB-stub}} looks like it'd be useful.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Michalisphyl (talk • contribs)

• Please discuss this at Stub types for deletion, where this was first listed. Pegship (talk) 18:59, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

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This upmerged stub is over 200 and should definitely be upmerged. Speedy?--TM 16:45, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

• Currently {{tl|library-stub}} has its own category, {{cl|Library and information science stubs}}. Which template are you seeing that is upmerged? Should there be a separate {{tl|library-struct-stub}}? Pegship (talk) 18:44, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

::Ahh, I see. I thought it was an upmerged template already. Well, {{tl|library-struct-stub}} is what I meant and I think it is needed.--TM 00:59, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

:::A quick CatScan shows well over 65 articles which would qualify for {{tl|library-struct-stub}}, so I support. Cheers, Pegship (talk) 22:00, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

::::{{tl|library-bio-stub}} probably is a good idea at this point too.--TM 04:36, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

:Agreed Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 12:16, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

I proposed this a while back Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 16:58, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

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Propose:

• Euro-split of {{tl|Castle-stub}}, ie, the break-out of {{Cl|European castle stubs}} + upmerged {{Country-castle-stub}}s as required, on the same lines as the Euro-church-stubs HeartofaDog (talk) 14:25, 19 February 2009 (UTC);
• (speedy) creation of {{tl|France-castle-stub}} + {{Cl|French castle stubs}}, as there are now 75+ of them HeartofaDog (talk) 23:04, 19 February 2009 (UTC):

::I have no objection to a euro cat, but think that it is a bit small for now, would rather split out the countries that have 60+ into categories and see what is left. As it is with the French category would leave just 350 articles.Waacstats (talk) 08:41, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

• Question: Am I the only person losing section edit links below this point? Outsider80 (talk) 00:34, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
• No...I'm missing them as well. What's up with that? Pegship (talk) 01:00, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
• fixed.. wanted to make sure it wasn't just me before i started taking shots in the dark. Outsider80 (talk) 01:09, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

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It seems to me that I can't find more than 60 stubs, so I propose creates two upmerge templates

1. {{tl|Taiwan-road-stub}}
2. {{tl|Taiwan-gov-stub}}

The stub list, if you want, is here (scroll down for the other list).

Thanks --- impactF=_{check this} 06:14, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

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Hi, requesting category for currently-upmerged stub {{tl|LGBT-bio-stub}} as it now contains 60 articles. Not sure what the standard naming is, but recommend avoiding "LGBT people stubs" as the stub's scope does include people who are not lesbian/gay but are relevent in other ways. (maybe "LGBT biographical stubs" or something similar?) Thanks, Outsider80 (talk) 05:39, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

:I am not sure on this one. I think it might be better to create separate stubs like {{tl|LGBT-writer-stub}} and {{tl|LGBT-activist-stub}} rather than a general -bio stub.--TM 16:48, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

::The LGBT-bio-stub already exists, it is just upmerged into LGBT-stubs category. If it does continue to exist as a stub type, moving it to its own category would help unclutter the parent category & make the bio stubs easier to find. LGBT-activist-stub also already exists as a stub and category and is populated. Good idea on the writer stub, I didn't realize how many there were (26 writer stubs within the 60 bio stubs). I went through LGBT-bio-stubs & the break-down is:

::*Writers of LGBT topics/themes: 26 stubs

::*LGBT-history related bio stubs (bio stubs with historical significance which do not fall under "writer" or "activist" qualifiers, including also victims of hate crimes): 18 stubs

::*Other -- Artists: only 7, Film-related bio: only 2, Music artsts: only 3, TV-related: only 1

::thoughts? Outsider80 (talk) 20:38, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

• I'd definitely support the original proposal. There were 53 such stubs two days ago and the number is increasing daily. If not for my recent health problems I'd have probably proposed this myself by now. Though I can see the reasoning behind Thomas's counterproposal, I think that a basic LGBT bio category makes sense as an initial move to empty out the LGBT stub category. It would also be a reasonable parent type for the existing activist category. The idea of creating a separate template for writers has its merits, though that's perhaps less urgent. Grutness...wha? 22:48, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

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Speedy creation for this cat? presently upmerged into {{Cl|European church stubs}} but now has 60+ articles. HeartofaDog (talk) 23:40, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

:Speedy create per precedent. Waacstats (talk) 08:56, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

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Propose finishing off the split of this cat with the remaining upmerged templates. It may require the reation of templates for historic nations such as {{Tl|Bohemia-Olympic-medalist-stub}}, do we want to do this (I think we already have USSR-, Czechoslovakia- and Yugoslavia-) and if so do we upmerge them to the relevent current countries stub cat? We already have 23 categories and 2 upmerged templates. Waacstats (talk) 12:10, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

How many articles do you think would fit the criteria Bohemian olympic medalist? I support in principle as we tend to be politically correct in such areas. ANy idea how many bios fit the bill? Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 21:27, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

:Currently 3 articles with another 3 possible articles which I'll try to get round to creating at the weekend. Waacstats (talk) 08:44, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

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As with recent splits, create the missing templates here. Waacstats (talk) 19:59, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Absolutely Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 22:17, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

:On a related note, can upmerged templates for :Category:European film director stubs be created for each country, instead of having the Euro-film-director-stub template? Lugnuts (talk) 12:18, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I'd support that also. The European thing has gone on long enough. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 18:03, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

:Cheers Dr B. I thought I was going mad when I was adding Germany-film-director-stub, only to find it didn't exist! Lugnuts (talk) 19:11, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

::I'm slowly working my way through the continent categories so I would support this as well. Waacstats (talk) 23:03, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

:Yeah that is crazy! I think its time we changed the graphic for them too I hated the old one. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 21:25, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

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Speedy creation for this cat? presently upmerged into {{Cl|European church stubs}} but now has 70+ articles. HeartofaDog (talk) 02:51, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Um well its look as if it has been created... Support anyway. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 19:03, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

:Sorry - I should have waited.

:Strangely, the contents are not sorting alphabetically - not sure what is going on there, but if anyone can see what I've done wrong, please let me know. Thanks, HeartofaDog (talk) 15:34, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

::Sorted-someone forgot the noincludes. Waacstats (talk) 23:10, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

:::Great - thanks.HeartofaDog (talk) 02:21, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

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Speedy creation for this cat? presently upmerged into {{Cl|Roman Catholic church stubs}} but now has 110+ articles.HeartofaDog (talk) 02:01, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

:mmmmm. I think I'd prefer a split by country rather than by the status of the building, though we do have the template, so it makes some sense. Grutness...wha? 07:56, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

::I see what you mean. I am not sure that many countries have 60+ RC Cathedrals - presumably there wd be no problem breaking out the ones that do at the appropriate time and leaving the remainder permanently in RC-cathedral?

::Or do you want to rethink the whole RC-church thing, and just have churches and cathedrals by country? There is certainly about to be a difficulty - in RC countries - with the overlap / duplication between Foo-church-stub and RC-foo-church-stub - (eg) RC churches in France / Churches in France. HeartofaDog (talk) 11:10, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

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Hi all - subsequent to the recent LGBT split proposal, I'd like to propose two more upmerged templates - {{tl|LGBT-mag-stub}} and {{tl|LGBT-newspaper-stub}}. Looks like they'll each take about 30 articles. I've also inadvertently speedied both {{cl|LGBT organization stubs}} and {{cl|LGBT law stubs}}, but both should get close to three figures, so hopefully no damage done. Grutness...wha? 23:46, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

• In the spirit of "sometimes it's better to ask forgiveness than permission", support. Pegship (talk) 04:14, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
• Support both proposed upmerged templates -- there are quite a number of mags & newspaper articles currently stubbed as LGBT-stub. (also support the accidental speedied cats which are helpful in stub-navigating) Outsider80 (talk) 00:34, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

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Surprised this hasn't been ID'd by now, 70+ articles identified, can see preliminary list on userpageminnecologies (talk) 03:05, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

• {{tl|forestry-stub}} certainly looks like it'd be useful - as long as there's a note that it's not to be used for geo-type articles about actual forests. Support. Grutness...wha? 04:11, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

:Definately. COuld include both forest organizations and articles on forestry issues as well as any notable figures in this field. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 11:30, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

::Yup - though the orgs and bios should be double-stubbed with any other appropriate stub types, of course. Grutness...wha? 11:45, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

:::Yes, we need a "forestry" stub - I specifically need one. chop chop ;)Nailgunner (talk) 22:14, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

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Propose creating templates for all countries for {{tl|Africa-sports-venue-stub}}, as has been done with biographies. This will make sorting stubs into building and structures stub categories much easier and eliminate significant needless double stubbing.--TM 20:57, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

• Support will match Asia and Europe. Waacstats (talk) 22:59, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
• Support - would also be worth having redirects to them all from {{tl|Foo-stadium-stub}}, which is also widely used as a template styling. Grutness...wha? 00:35, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

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propose upmerged by country templates. Waacstats (talk) 22:45, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Not done already? Surprised. Support. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 01:03, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

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Disambiguation of, part two. (Part one was in December.)

Diving stubs have been re-tagged with one of four templates, as follows:

• {{Tl|Underwater-diving-stub}}: 129 stubs
• {{Tl|Underwater-diving-bio-stub}}: 20 stubs
• {{Tl|Acrobatics-diving-stub}}: 1 stub
• {{Tl|Acrobatics-diving-bio-stub}}: 290 stubs

If I recall the threshold guidelines correctly, that means that Underwater-diving-stub and Acrobatics-diving-bio-stub qualify for their own categories, Underwater-diving-bio-stub should be upmerged, and Acrobatics-diving-stub... I don't know: does it get a category in order to hold the bio subcat, or does it just get bypassed?

The other question to be settled before proceeding is: Does either type of stub get to keep the existing {{Cl|Diving stubs}} and {{Cl|Diving biography stubs}}, or do we mark those as ambiguous and create new categories for both of the precise types? —Paul A (talk) 01:32, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

:Mmmmm. That's a tricky one. I'd be loath to split them much more than that, or upmerge, for that matter, given the numbers involved. The best thing might to have the diving bio stubs populating two categories each, giving:

:*{{cl|Diving stubs}} (no stubs, three subcategories - "parent only" type)

:**{{cl|Underwater diving stubs}} (149 stubs, fed by both the base and bio stubs)

:**{{cl|Diving (acrobatics) stubs}} (291 stubs, fed by both the base and bio stubs)

:**{{cl|Diving biography stubs}} (310 stubs, fed by both bio types, as per current use)

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::Support Grutness' suggestion. Waacstats (talk) 10:04, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

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As upmerged templates in :Category:European church stubs, on a par with the several already existing there for other countries. HeartofaDog (talk) 00:51, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

• Sounds like a good move - support, and for any other countries that might find church-stub templates useful. Grutness...wha? 01:23, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

::May I take this as a speedy OK?HeartofaDog

:::I'll say speedy create. for these and any other templates for foo-church-stubs for the euro cat. Waacstats (talk) 10:01, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

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Yes, actually I did propose the creation of them and many other European ones a while back. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 12:29, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

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To mirror previous categories of :Category:European film stubs and :Category:African film stubs. I'm sure there's plenty of stub articles for films from Bolivia, Chile, Colombia, Venezuela and the other S American countries (ex. Argentina and Brazil) to make 60+ stubs. Lugnuts (talk) 20:53, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

:Support Not appropriate for Brazil or Argentina obviously as Lugs mentioned but the films from the other countries make it worthwhile and would tie stray stubs together. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 21:42, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

::Support, would be an idea to have my country templates rather than one for SouthAm. Waacstats (talk) 09:55, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

:::Ah yes, I forgot to say that originally - I'd do the upmerge template for each country, as per the European stubs. Lugnuts (talk) 11:22, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

::::I knew you'd know that but I thought I would make it plain just incase someone else comes round and creates it as southAm- before you create the country-film. Waacstats (talk) 17:06, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

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I've had a wild weekend. --User:AlbertHerring ^{Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla!} 19:48, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Support Barnstar worthy! Do you have a stub count Albert? Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 21:09, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

:I...er, never keep count after a wild weekend... --User:AlbertHerring ^{Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla!} 21:30, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Support speedying. I counted 153 just now.--TM 21:17, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

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I'm currently adding the 703 communes of Mali. With some seperate towns and villages it will soon be around 1000+.

It is an early stage given that we only have around 200 Mali stubs at present but I can assure you that it will need to be done eventually and within a week or two. I propose the creation of the following templates by Regions of Mali -they will all expect Bamako be viable for seperate categories as I work through them. At present I believe the only one viable for category is the Kayes region.

Proposal:

• {{tl|Gao-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|Kayes-geo-stub}} 100+ stubs already cat?? {{cl|Kayes Region geography stubs}}
• {{tl|Koulikoro-geo-stub}} {{cl|Koulikoro Region geography stubs}} -this is around *60* but there is still a lag of about 35. Should be nearer 80 in an hour or two..
• {{tl|Mopti-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|Ségou-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|Sikasso-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|Tombouctou-geo-stub}}
• {{tl|Bamako-geo-stub}} -for articles on places and suburns of the city district.

Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 01:17, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

:support templates with the following changes GaoML - there is apparently a Geo district in Burkina Faso, KayesML - there is a Kayes in Congo and SégouML - there is a village in Togo. I don't think we need region in the template but certainly when categories are created (And I Support these once they reach 60) i think it should be of the form F{{Cl|Foo Region geography stubs}}. Waacstats (talk) 09:22, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Ah yes of course, thanks for the note. Actually I think we can get away with them blank though. You see Kayes is only a small town in Congo, it will never get to the stage where we would need stub templates. Kayes in Mali is a region, cercle, commune and town. Also "Geo" district is also a different spelling and is a smaller disrtrict that is also unlikely to have a template created for it. Segou is only a village in TOgo whereas it is a region, cercle, commune and city. The region is probably the size of England at least. If you look on a world map you'll see these names have priority. There shouldn't be any problems without the ML, if in the unlikely event that conflicting tmeplates needed to be made in the future then we can always add an abbreviation after the new ones. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 12:25, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

:thanks for that, I am happy that Segou and Kayes probably don't need disambig (we don't have templates for american towns of the same size) and the "Geo" was a misspelling on my part according to Gao (disambiguation) but seen as we don't even have an article yet I'm sure a template is many years off unless someone does a good going over of Burkina Faso. Waacstats (talk) 14:03, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

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I propose to create a new stub called Haringey borough stub it can be found on my user page User:L07ChLeo3 I have been researching and I have found that it can be used on well over 60 articles as their are many Haringey related articles which are small enough to be counted as stubs L07ChLeo3 14:29, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

:Seems reasonable for an upmerged template at least; {{cl|London geography stubs}} is around 580, with no current splits by borough. Pegship (talk) 20:57, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

::Support, but... are you looking at a general stub (for non-geographic items) or a geo-stub (for geographic items)? Personally I'd suggest having both, but upmerging them in different ways

::*{{tl|Haringey-geo-stub}}, upmerged for now into {{cl|London geography stubs}} and

::*{{tl|Haringey-stub}}, upmerged for now into {{cl|London stubs}}.

::If either of them get 60 stubs, then separate categories could be created, or if they have 60 between them they could both feed a new {{cl|Haringey stubs}}, with the geo one also still feeding the London geo category. Grutness...wha? 22:45, 8 February 2009 (UTC) (native of nearby Barnet)

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the following are viable from existing templates

• {{Cl|Uzbekistani football biography stubs}}
• {{Cl|Kazakhstani football biography stubs}}

Waacstats (talk) 18:59, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Speedy Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 19:03, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

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Propose {{Cl|Central American sportspeople stubs}}, {{Tl|foo-sport-bio-stub}} for all 7 nations nations and {{Tl|Foo-footy-bio-stub}} for Guatemala and Belize (the only two that don't currently have them). Waacstats (talk) 18:21, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

• (Grutness tries to nod sagely, but ends up looking like one of those nodding-head dog puppets) Grutness...wha? 22:54, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

:*More like a nodding cat surely. Waacstats (talk) 15:08, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

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I propose creating a stub category with the stub article list here. The new category can include :Template:Taiwan-baseball-stub, :Template:Taiwan-footyclub-stub, :Template:Taiwan-sports-venue-stub, and :Category:Taiwanese sportspeople stubs. impactF=_{check this} 02:57, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

• Support based on numerous precedants. Waacstats (talk) 09:01, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

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Category is oversized, I see two options one is to split out E/W Germany with

• {{Cl|East German Olympic medalist stubs}} - {{tl|EastGermany-Olympic-medalist-stub}}
• {{Cl|West German Olympic medalist stubs}} - {{tl|WestGermany-Olympic-medalist-stub}}

or to split by sport as we have with the US where the following would all be viable

• {{Cl|German rowing Olympic medalist stubs}} - {{tl|Germany-rowing-Olympic-medalist-stub}}
• {{Cl|German canoeist Olympic medalist stubs}} - {{tl|Germany-canoe-Olympic-medalist-stub}}
• {{Cl|German handball Olympic medalist stubs}} - {{tl|Germany-handball-Olympic-medalist-stub}}
• {{Cl|German swimming Olympic medalist stubs}} - {{tl|Germany-swimming-Olympic-medalist-stub}}
• {{Cl|German athletics Olympic medalist stubs}} - {{tl|Germany-athletics-Olympic-medalist-stub}}
• {{Cl|German field hockey Olympic medalist stubs}} - {{tl|Germany-fieldhockey-Olympic-medalist-stub}}

. Waacstats (talk) 23:48, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

:I'm not sure what is standard naming practice with these, but {{tl|Foo-Olympic-bar-medalist-stub}} (e.g., Germany-Olympic-swimming-medallist-stub}} would flow better, IMO (and yes, for continental Europe we'd normally use UK spelling, so they should all be "medallist". This, however, probably needs to wait for the outcome of a massive renaming of permcats which i think may be called for, so going with one -l- for now but keeping an eye out for future changes is possibly the best option). Grutness...wha? 00:58, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

::If we go with the Foo-Olympic-bar then the US subcats (the only other country we have split this way) need to be renamed. I agree that we probably do need a rename to medallist at some point. I don't think we need both axis of split do you have a preference for either. Waacstats (talk) 08:56, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

:::Not really - but I suspect that a further split will be needed sooner if we go for the EG/WG one. Grutness...wha? 23:09, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

:Hmm yes the naming does seem a bit of a mouthful. I support though based on numbers Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 13:35, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

::Hi. Sorry about the delay in responding fellas. I'm not sure what we should do about naming in all honesty. I would completely support the category and template naming conventions above. I would also support East and West templates. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 18:21, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

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Following this discussion, I'd like to create the following stub categories:

• {{Cl|Russian film stubs}} - {{Tl|Russia-film-stub}}
• {{Cl|Soviet film stubs}} - {{Tl|USSR-film-stub}}

The former is for films from 1917-1991 (240+ articles currently in this category) and the latter for post-1991 films (100+ articles in this category). Lugnuts (talk) 18:31, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

:Support as long as these are the other way round (Russia post 1991 and soviet 1917-1991). Waacstats (talk) 21:15, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

::Hehe, well spotted! Lugnuts (talk) 08:04, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Support -good catch Lugnuts! Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 15:42, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

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Following categories and templates has already been created:

• {{Cl|Croatian handball biography stubs}} - {{Tl|Croatia-handball-bio-stub}}
• {{Cl|Danish handball biography stubs}} - {{Tl|Denmark-handball-bio-stub}}
• {{Cl|German handball biography stubs}} - {{Tl|Germany-handball-bio-stub}}
• {{Cl|Hungarian handball biography stubs}} - {{Tl|Hungary-handball-bio-stub}}
• {{Cl|Norwegian handball biography stubs}} - {{Tl|Norway-handball-bio-stub}}
• {{Cl|Polish handball biography stubs}} - {{Tl|Poland-handball-bio-stub}}
• {{Cl|Romanian handball biography stubs}} - {{Tl|Romania-handball-bio-stub}}
• {{Cl|Spanish handball biography stubs}} - {{Tl|Spain-handball-bio-stub}}

Don't know if they have been proposed before, was made aware of the situation here. But I'm interested in creating stub-templates for the remaining nations, with categories for any that reaches 60 stubs. (Similar templates and categories have already been made for association football.)
Speedy? lil2mas (talk) 00:45, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

• Works for me. Pegship (talk) 06:19, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
• fully support, if you need any help let me know, don't think we need to go as far as we have with football though. Waacstats (talk) 23:13, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
• Support from me, too. BTW, if you have queries about less straightforward country names in stub templates, checking User:Grutness/Geo-stub list should hopefully clear them up. Grutness...wha? 23:22, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

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All the following are viable from upmreged templates

• {{Cl|Mexican athletics biography stubs}} - {{Tl|Mexico-athletics-bio-stub}}
• {{Cl|Trinidad and Tobago athletics biography stubs}} - {{Tl|Trinidad-athletics-bio-stub}}
• {{Cl|Portugal athletics biography stubs}} - {{Tl|Portugal-athletics-bio-stub}}

Speedy? Waacstats (talk) 11:16, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

:Speedy--TM 15:12, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

::Yes but some uniformity might be nice... either Mexico/Portugal or Mexican/Portuguese... Grutness...wha? 21:51, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

:::someone found the deliberate error:), obviously bsed on all the other categories it should be {{Cl|Portuguese athletics biography stubs}}, thanks for spoting that grutness. Waacstats (talk) 15:11, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

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{{tl|Romania-canoe-bio-stub}} has reached 60 propose {{Cl|Romanian canoeist stubs}} to fit in with post SFD name. Waacstats (talk) 11:14, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

:Support. Grutness...wha? 21:54, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

:Go for it Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 15:20, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

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