Wikipedia Talk:ReFill

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Hi, when creating archive links, archiveurl=, it's also creating deadurl=yes, which is a deprecated parameter, and therefore errors. Please replace with |url-status=dead. Thanks for setting up the tool, I use it loads, Tom B (talk) 13:20, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

:{{reply|Tpbradbury}} thanks Tom, this is known about, and once we've got our house in order this will get fixed at last. I will archive this thread for now. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 16:48, 9 June 2023 (UTC)

::I have unarchived this section, since it is a perennial topic for a few years now. It looks like some slow development has happened and has stalled. See {{phab|T352379}} for details. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:06, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

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I click on the arrow and literally nothing happens. --Bageense^(disc.) 22:08, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

:I am able to reproduce. https://refill.toolforge.org/ng/, article "2023 Nigerian Senate election". In the JavaScript console, I am getting a CORS error and a {{tq|TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'data')}}. [https://imgur.com/a/IREi5o7 Screenshot with more details.] Mentioned in Discord as a possible cause to investigate: phab:T322944. –Novem Linguae (talk) 23:06, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

::Someone on Discord has pointed out that perhaps the CORS error is a distraction and the fundamental problem is actually getting a 504 Gateway Timeout error when trying to load the API https://refill-api.toolforge.org/fixWikipage. The 504 error page would be missing an ACAO CORS header, generating the CORS error, but the fundamental problem is the timeout itself. –Novem Linguae (talk) 04:19, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

:::The API hasn't been serving requests since [https://grafana.wmcloud.org/d/TJuKfnt4z/kubernetes-namespace?orgId=1&var-namespace=tool-refill-api&var-cluster=prometheus-tools&from=1742689246390&to=1742698986682 around 28 hours ago]. Probably needs a restart. Chlod (say hi!) 05:16, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

: I'll add that I've been experiencing an issue for potentially 24 hours where the screen stalls at "Submitting your task..." Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 04:17, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

::I'm looking into this. I have done the usual restarts, and it is now stuck at "waiting for an available worker" rather than "Submitting your task..." which is progress, but I haven't got much time to look at it today. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 10:43, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

::Fixed now, with thanks to {{u|TheresNoTime}}. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 15:17, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

:::Maybe one of you would be willing to type up the work instruction for how to fix this (restart) and post it on wiki somewhere? If so I'd be happy to try it next time. I think I have enough access, and refill seems to get stuck often enough that it would be useful to have a procedure for this. –Novem Linguae (talk) 17:26, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

::::{{reply|Novem Linguae}} Thanks, good suggestion. Done. See Wikipedia:Refill/restart. Though this didn't work this time, due to code in the restart script that was no longer supported I believe. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 21:25, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

As I noted here three(!) years ago:

I still get, on en.Wikipedia, two entries under "Tools":

• reFill 2 New!
• reFill(o)

Do we expect a fix? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:38, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

:{{reply|Pigsonthewing}} This is because in your common.js you have a reference to https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Zhaofeng_Li/Reflinks.js which inserts those two links. Zhaofeng Li has long since left Wikipedia. Nobody but him can edit pages in his user space on meta. The workaround would be to copy the script, remove the bits no longer needed, save to a new location and then reference that in your common.js. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 16:37, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

::"remove the bits no longer needed"

::If I knew which they were, I wouldn't be asking here. I also note that the page whose talk page we are on says that is the correct link to use, so me forking the script into my own userspace won't help anyone else. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:46, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

:::A fork of that script might exist. User:Jonesey95/refill.js used to be one but was deleted. You could check WP:US/L for forks, or request a new fork with your changes at WP:US/R. –Novem Linguae (talk) 18:03, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

I’ve been trying to use Refill for a while, and while I use it heavily on desktop, if I try to use it on my phone it’s not behaving itself. I’ll run the bot on a page, it’ll show a correct preview… but when I go to preview/save the edits on the actual page, none of the changes are carried over and the source editor shows no changes being made. Any suggestions? Danners430 (talk) 18:59, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

Why does refill use the non-existent parameter deadurl=y? Can't someone just change it in the code or something to be url-status=dead instead? Schützenpanzer (Talk) 20:26, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:See #Error on dead links above. This has been happening since 2019. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:06, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

Could you please enable Issues in the GitHub repo so that bugs can be reported and tracked properly?

This allows searching them more easily, has one separate discussion for every issue, each with a descriptive title, allows getting an email when people discuss or solve the issue, and many other things. That's why most open source repos have a proper issue tracker and not just some discussion forum page.

For example, would it be possible to also add the language parameter to references based on the url and/or title? (e.g. |language=en). This would be especially useful on German Wikipedia where this parameter is required (currently, one has to edit each refilled ref manually to add that parameter). Also see these proposals. If things turn out to be related to citoid the tool uses then those issues could be simply closed and the user(s) directed to the proper place to report these. {{ping|Curb Safe Charmer}}.
Prototyperspective (talk) 22:55, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

:We disabled GitHub Issues because we are using Phabricator. The tag is Tool-refill. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/5013/ –Novem Linguae (talk) 23:53, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

::Thanks; read over that part.

::{{Section resolved|1=Prototyperspective (talk) 11:28, 29 April 2025 (UTC)}}

The page says "Note that the version of refill installed on toolforge uses the labs-stable branch." Is that correct? There has been no development in that branch for 8-10 years. 108.60.227.33 (talk) 12:55, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

:According to some pull requests I made in 2023 when I last looked at this (https://github.com/CurbSafeCharmer/refill/pull/262, https://github.com/CurbSafeCharmer/refill/pull/261), I think labs-rewrite is the old version that we killed off recently when it broke. The new version, refill.toolforge.org/ng, uses the master branch.

:Note that even the refill.toolforge.org/ng / master branch hasn't had a deploy since July 8, 2020, according to the timestamps of the files on Toolforge. This repo is kind of in "only make changes if it breaks" mode since none of the current volunteers understand the code very well. –Novem Linguae (talk) 13:56, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello, when converting a bare link archived reference it should put the archive url in {{para|archive-url}} and not in the {{para|url}} parameter.

Example converting https://web.archive.org/web/20040603203038/http://www.conservatives.com/people/person.cfm?PersonID=4645
gives {{cite web|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20040603203038/http://www.conservatives.com/people/person.cfm?PersonID=4645|title=Conservative Party - Rt Hon David Curry MP|date=3 June 2004|website=web.archive.org|accessdate=20 May 2025}}

Rather than

{{cite web|url=http://www.conservatives.com/people/person.cfm?PersonID=4645|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20040603203038/http://www.conservatives.com/people/person.cfm?PersonID=4645|archive-date=3 June 2004|title=Conservative Party - Rt Hon David Curry MP|date=3 June 2004|website=onservatives.com|accessdate=20 May 2025}}

Keith D (talk) 11:43, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

:My recollection of the refill codes is that the tool uses citoid as the primary driver to generate the citation. It would be better for this request to be done at citoid level as it does the same for the citation tool in our editor. Also note that the further manual edits would be required for the date and archive status. – robertsky (talk) 11:55, 20 May 2025 (UTC)