Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard#Floquenbeam reappointed an Oversighter
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Someonefighter banned
I'm not surprised. Was this based on private evidence? Zerotalk 13:31, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
:Yes. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:33, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
Was a checkuser run on the account? Sean.hoyland (talk) 15:46, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
Wasn't aware of their work in the PIA, so I was surprised by this. They did a lot of work over at WP:URA. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me! 17:13, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
:Four out of five of their [https://xtools.wmcloud.org/ec/enwiki/Someonefighter#top-edited-pages top edited artcles] were in the zone, tbf. Fortuna, Imperatrix Mundi 17:21, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
Arbitration motion regarding Noleander
Arbitration motion regarding procedures relating to requests for amendment
Someonefighter
I'd like to begin by sincerely apologizing to the editors involved. I'm grateful to have been given a second chance, and I take full responsibility for all of my actions. I have changed since then, and am looking forward to contributing constructively. On a related note, I wanted to kindly ask if the topic ban extends to talk page edit requests. (specifically, I would like continue to help expand the List of killings and massacres in Mandatory Palestine by submitting entries in talk page) Someonefighter (talk) 13:34, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
:That's gotta be the shortest siteban ever :) welcome back! But seriously, I think it's very open and upfront of you to make a public apology like that. It rarely happens. Fortuna, Imperatrix Mundi 13:44, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
::Thank you 🙏 Someonefighter (talk) 14:06, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
:By the way, {{u|Someonefighter}}, not speaking fopr the cttee obviously, but WP:TBAN says {{blue|unless clearly and unambiguously specified otherwise, a topic ban covers all pages (not only articles) broadly related to the topic}}, so... Fortuna, Imperatrix Mundi 13:46, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
:Yes, the topic ban applies to talk page requests. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:53, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks Someonefighter (talk) 14:06, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
So this is far from the first time this has happened, but for whatever reason only just now jumped out at me: When ArbCom says, by motion, that a user is topic-banned, what does that mean in terms of enforcement? I would assume it's {{slink|Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Procedures#Standard_provision:_enforcement_of_restrictions}}—at least that's how I approached it the one time I blocked someone for violation of a by-motion restriction—but I don't think that's actually written down anywhere, and the most straightforward reading would be that there are no restrictions at all (as with community TBAN enforcement). -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 14:12, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
:Given it's still 'our' sanction, just done outside a case, I would agree that applying the 'standard provision' is probably the most logical approach. Daniel (talk) 00:59, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
In a case like this where information is not public, including the argument presented in the appeal, is there a way for the community to know which parts of Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures were pertinent to the result, even if only something like...this happened, then this, then this, the end. Sean.hoyland (talk) 15:17, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
:Fair question and not one I have a complete answer to right now, beyond saying (in my view) we received a very good appeal following the initial sanction. I will also say that the internal process around off-wiki coordination reports is something we can, and perhaps should (when we get a chance to), examine. Daniel (talk) 00:59, 10 May 2025 (UTC)