Wikipedia talk:In the news#Workshop: Defining significance

Using the pope selection of the example of the problem, I think we should try to advices editors to not just pile on support for an ITNC that clearly has support for significance, and if anything to focus more on quality of the target articles.

Also in the same, input that is along the lines of "post ASAP" are also not helpful if quality has not been reviewed, since ITN is in no rush to post events.

How to word these I don't know. Masem (t) 19:33, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

:I don't disagree with the suggestion, but people already ignore the six points that are there now. ~~ Jessintime (talk) 19:44, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

::Agreed. What's the enforcement mechanism to make "Do not" stick? I doubt any admin is going to permit people to strike out !votes in violation of these clauses. It might be appropriate to include them in WP:ITNATA, but again, largely unread. _{Duly signed,} ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 13:52, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

::And I might also add that the specific individual you and I are probably thinking of who makes the "post ASAP" gripes is not the type of person who would give a hoot about the "do nots" anyway. _{Duly signed,} ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 14:16, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

• The "nominate an article" link on the main page takes you to WP:ITN/C. The first words in that are "{{tq|Welcome to In the news. Please read the guidelines.}}" Those guidelines are the main WP:ITN which is 1500 words of prose but still doesn't include WP:ITNDONT because that section is on the WP:ITN/C page. And, if you're on the WP:ITN/C page and follow the "{{tq|skip to nominations}}" link near the top, that takes you to the top nomination, jumping past WP:ITNDONT and the rest of that big orange box.

: So, it seems unlikely that most editors will read multiple pages of instructions and will follow the path of least resistance instead. What's needed is reorganization, not more TLDR.

: Andrew🐉(talk) 18:04, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

:We’ve discussed this a couple of times. I agree that this is a valid problem, and my solution to it is moderation. I’ve closed several discussion in which a clear consensus on significance had already been reached with a note to focus on improving quality, and it worked well. I’m not against adding this to “do not”, but I share your concern that the wording is challenging.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 18:06, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

::The difficulty is clearly identifying to !voters that the significance threshold is no longer in question. One possible way to do that might be to have a checklist for each ITN nomination, one for each of the different forks of the trident that need to be addressed - quality, significance, and reliable sources. Once a consensus is established for one or more of those items, a checkmark ✅ can be added and future !votes that address only those approved items can be struck out or moved to the side. _{Duly signed,} ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 12:22, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Why is wikipedia warmongering. The only ongoing world events are wars and disasters. Jeez

There is android show Google I / o 2025 https://techcrunch.com/2025/05/09/google-i-o-2025-what-to-expect-including-updates-to-gemini-and-android-16/ Baratiiman (talk) 05:11, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

:There is no "warmongering". However, it is true that ITN does not add much to the ongoing section besides wars and disasters. Ongoing is defined as "{{tq|The purpose of the ongoing section is to maintain a link to a continuously updated Wikipedia article about a story which is itself also frequently in the news. }}" And unfortunately there is not much that meets this criteria. Natg 19 (talk) 06:10, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

:Ongoing events are for those that have worldwide significance and that have near daily reporting about them, which short of things like the Olympics or World Cups, are going to be typically about international conflicts. A trade show is not going to have either of those. Masem (t) 12:36, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

:A tech demonstration is important global news? DarkSide830 (talk) 18:31, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

:Yes, you heard it here first. Wikipedia is causing all the world's wars (which is what warmongering means). The only thing that can save us is Android. For all the Hollywood sci-fi screenplay-writers in the future who see this post and get inspired -- I want my cut. _{Duly signed,} ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 12:24, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Why is this not in "ITN"? It's way more critical to global security than Rwanda. 70.161.8.90 (talk) 20:58, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

:It was added to ITN a few days ago, but then removed because the article was in poor shape. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:17, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

There were two ready-tagged RD noms that were swallowed by the archiving bot. Is it still possible to post the RD noms? Tagging active RD admins {{re|PFHLai|Stephen}}. --Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 14:45, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

: Azmun Jaafar & Bob Cowper are now on the ITN-RD line on MainPage. Thanks for the notice, Jeromi Mikhael. --PFHLai (talk) 16:19, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Should we change Nicusor Dan's photo to this?: :File:Nicușor_Dan_2025.jpg Giving the fact that it's pretty much the the same photo but this version is more zoomed out and better quality. I would really appreciate to get an answer, if so then Thank you so much! 𝕸𝖆𝖑𝖇𝖔𝖗𝖐𝕳𝖎𝖘𝖙𝖔𝖗𝖎𝖆𝖓^{𝕿𝖆𝖑𝖐} 15:16, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

:We tend to use close cropped headshots where one is available for consistency and to maximise the face for the image size. Stephen 23:23, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Does anyone else think it looks weird that "Nominate an article" in the ITN footer is right-aligned to the start of the image caption rather than to the right of the text? It's the only thing in that column so it doesn't establish an immediately obvious reading order and is sort of distracting when you go to look at the caption. Alternatively, maybe if it had a bigger margin it would not look so smushed up against the caption? – Mullafacation『talk』 14:46, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

: It's fine on mobile. – Mullafacation『talk』 14:54, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

:I just checked and this only applies to larger screens. (or zoomed out on normal screens) – Mullafacation『talk』 19:30, 26 May 2025 (UTC)