Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Gender identity#%22Fae%22 pronouns in a Wikipedia article
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|author = Morgane Tual
|title = Wikipedia's French-speaking community is torn apart over 'deadnaming' trans people
|date = March 12, 2024
|org = Le Monde
|url = https://www.lemonde.fr/en/pixels/article/2024/03/12/wikipedia-s-french-speaking-community-is-torn-apart-over-deadnaming-trans-people_6611905_13.html#
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|quote = On the English-language version, contributors settled the matter back in 2015, without too much controversy: They agreed to only mention the deadnames of people who became famous under that name.
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What about minor children in a court dispute?
Father says "he", mother says "she" referring to biologically male child born in 2012, and subject of contentious pending court case. Do we go with the current legal designation, or mother's allegation of the child's preference, or ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Modern Law (talk • contribs) 15:53, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
:Is this child notable, or this hypothetical? I would imagine any such instance would need to be viewed on a case-by-case basis. If one or both parents are notable, then we can probably avoid using gendered terms to describe the child or explain that the child's gender is currently the subject of dispute. It is inappropriate for us to be discussing the genital configuration of a pre-teenager so "biologically male" is irrelevant here — OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk) 08:57, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
::This discussion appears to relate to Jeff Younger–Anne Georgulas custody battle. I see no reason to attempt to judge a sensitive situation without context, and the above notification looks a bit like asking the other parent. (no pun intended) –RoxySaunders 🏳️⚧️ (💬 • 📝) 15:19, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Context: reliable sources report that the child in question is transgender and requests female name/pronouns/presentation. The application of this guideline in this case seems straightforward. –RoxySaunders 🏳️⚧️ (💬 • 📝) 17:28, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
Band member name change
The lead singer of Tapir!, Evelyn Gray, recently changed their name, but due to the sheer number of articles about the band that specifically mention them (by their deadname, since the change is very recent), I'm not sure if they qualify for "Unless a living transgender or non-binary person was notable (by Wikipedia's standards) under a former name (a deadname), the former name should not be included in any page" from MOS:DEADNAME - they fall in a gray (ha) area where I'm not sure if they would be notable in this context under their deadname. Should their deadname be included in a footnote, or should it be avoided entirely? Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 19:27, 22 May 2025 (UTC)