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50+ WikiLove messages in the last 24 hours (9/10 February 2014; especially 10 February, around 16h)→ [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions/Piotrus&offset=&limit=500&target=Piotrus] During an ongoing RFA - this might look like a subtle form of canvassing?! --IIIraute (talk) 19:57, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

:So I aint the only one to think it's pretty odd!. →Davey2010→→Talk to me!→ 20:44, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

::It's not subtle, it's blatant. Was just about to ask a follow up to my Q7 when I saw this. Leaky Caldron 20:49, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

:Hmmm, did I mention RfA in them? I believe I didn't...? Anyway, the stats above show that I've left 17105 user talk page messages in this project, 50 a day is not unusual to me. Many of today's messages come from my regular Monday weekly review of User:AlexNewArtBot/PolandSearchResult; I habitually leave dozens of messages each Monday. This week I didn't have to leave almost any prods (there are weeks I have to leave dozens on Monday...), and as I felt extra good today I decided to spread some additional overdue happiness to the hard working DYK admins and few others. I recommend you try it out. IIIraute, I believe you have never given a wikilove message before - go on, saying good things about others, assuming goof faith, and practicing Wikipedia:WikiLove in general is a very healthy attitude, recommended by one of my favorite WikiProjects, the Wikipedia:Kindness Campaign. Now, I cannot defend against bad faith interpretation that my regular edits are some form of "subtle canvassing", how could I prove otherwise? My messages don't mention nor do they link this RfA, so no, I don't see what's the problem with me sending them out. Few days ago my name was on a mass delivery WikiProject Poland newsletter, was it a subtle form of pre-campaigning, too? A some GF, pretty please. I'll, however, say this: spreading happiness to other Wikipedians is much, much more important to me than passing this vote. If in order to pass (or to gain a few votes) I'd be required not to tell others they are doing good job, and thank them for their contributions, so be it. I consider passing this RfA a much less important item in the grand scheme of things than ensuring a number of hard working Wikipedians get their long deserved thank you; if I can motivate only a few people to reconsider leaving, or increase their activity, then I'd have done much more than I every could with the tools. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 20:52, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

:: WP:AGF isn't a noose. Nudging 50 people the day after you RfA (with a total 9 in December & January, AFAICT) can be regarded by anyone as anything, including encouraging people to see what you are up to via your recent contributions. Leaky Caldron 21:31, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

::: Fair enough. Mind you, I did five edits to RfA page, and about one hundred fifty in the last two days or so, so my contribs shouldn't be that blatantly self-advertising, I'd hope. Through this thread is changing this a bit, I think it's my fourth edit here... Does it mean I am abusing our discussion here to promote my candidacy? Hmmm, I can see how one could argue for that. Should I have stayed silent then? Surely no-one would treat the silence as a silent admission of guilt? Do or don't, whatever I do, I am damned, aren't I? :) --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 21:56, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

::::What do you say to this → [http://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/summary.py?name=Piotrus&search=WikiLove+message&server=enwiki&max=500&ns=] --IIIraute (talk) 22:32, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

:::::Nice tool. So I guess I was using WikiLove for three years now, huh? I certainly like it more and more. As I said, you should try it, too! PS. This tool doesn't account for non-WikiLove messages, I used to leave lot of traditional thanks, too. See also [http://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/summary.py?name=Piotrus&search=barnstar&max=500&server=enwiki&ns=] and [http://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/summary.py?name=Piotrus&search=thank&max=500&server=enwiki&ns=]. Hmmm, I think I often didn't leave a descriptive summary, instead of starting a new section I'd piggy back on the last one at the bottom of someone's talk page; I am not sure how to account for but I am afraid those edit summary searches will be missing a lot of my barnstar and such edits. Sorry about that, not sure how to run a query to give you the full results. PPS. I just remembered - I wrote a mini wiki essay on the importance of those kind of edits few years back. It should explain my thoughts on this further. PPPS. As well as the refs I cite there for why giving out wikilove and similar awards is a great idea: [http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Task_force/Recommendations/Community_health Wikimedia Strategy Taskforce for Community Health Recommendation #1: Volunteer Recognition], [http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/07/01/positive-feedback-works-for-editing-say-wikipedia-editors/ Positive feedback works for editing, say Wikipedia editors], [http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-03-sbu-awards-contribute-higher-wikipedia.html SBU study finds informal awards contribute to higher Wikipedia participation]. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 23:05, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

::::::...well, you certainly liked it a lot "more and more" in the last two days. --IIIraute (talk) 23:56, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

::::::: Last 50 - two days. Prior 50 - two years. Sorry, but this stinks.--S Philbrick(Talk) 19:25, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

::::::::I'm a bit pissed off that I didn't get a barnstar. I even had a drink with him in Boston. Drmies (talk) 04:03, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

::::Per {{U|Sphilbrick}}. I noticed as soon as it happened but as I had already !voted, and as mentioning it (or changing my !vote) would not have impacted on the outcome, I let it go. Certainly gave me pause though. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:21, 12 February 2014 (UTC)