Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship/Ryanpostlethwaite#Questionable copying

The following is intended as supporting material for my claim that much of the content Ryan has contributed is directly copied from outside sources without adequate attribution. Parts of this originally appeared as part of my oppose vote, but I decided to move it here given space and formating considerations. Dragons flight 08:01, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

• Ryanpostlethwaite at Harold Gaba: "From 1992 through 1997, he served as CEO and a director of Act III Theatres, Inc., and from 1992 through 1996 as CEO and a director of Act III Broadcasting, Inc. Also, since November 2005, Mr. Gaba has served as co-chairman of Village RoadShow Pictures, a motion picture production company. He has been Chairman of the Board of Concord Records since September 1999"
• :Forbes profile [http://www.forbes.com/finance/mktguideapps/personinfo/FromMktGuideIdPersonTearsheet.jhtml?passedMktGuideId=59091]: "Mr. Gaba, age 61, has been ... Chairman of the Board of Concord Records since September 1999. From 1992 through 1997, he served as CEO and a director of Act III Theatres, Inc., and from 1992 through 1996 as CEO and a director of Act III Broadcasting, Inc. Also, since November 2005, Mr. Gaba has served as co-chairman of Village RoadShow Pictures, a motion picture production company."
• Ryanpostlewaite at British Pharmacological Society: "The society was founded in 1931 in Oxford by a group of 20 pharmacologists ... The society met annually until 1939 ... Associate Membership of the Society, for Pharmacologists who live overseas, was introduced in 1958 and by 1972 there were over 130 members of this type. However, with increasing numbers of Ordinary Members working overseas, the distinction between two groups became less clear and in 1973 the Society combined them into one class of Ordinary Membership. By December 1986 the number of members had reached 2,000 and in 1994, the company became a limited company by guarantee. Student membership to the society was introduced in 1996."
• :About the BPS [http://www.bps.ac.uk/aboutbps/]: "The Society was founded in Oxford in 1931 by a group of about 20 pharmacologists. ... The Society met annually ... until 1939. ... Associate Membership of the Society, for Pharmacologists who live overseas, was introduced in 1958 and by 1972 there were over 130 members of this type. However, with increasing numbers of Ordinary Members working overseas, the distinction between two groups became less clear and in 1973 the Society combined them into one class of Ordinary Membership. ... By December 1986 this number had risen to more than 2,000. ... In 1994 the Society became a company limited by guarantee. ... In 1996 the Class of Student Member was introduced."
• Ryan's Taurus Nike Tomahawk TNT vs. [http://www.astronautix.com/lvs/tauwktnt.htm].
• Ryanpostlewaite at Roger Royle: "Reverend Canon Roger Royle was ordained in the Church of England in 1962 and served his first curacy at St. Mary's, Portsea, Portsmouth. During his career he served as Conduct and Senior Chaplain of Eton College. In 1979 he left Eton and became a non-stipendiary curate in the Diocese of Southwark. He also began working as the promoter of a preventative medicine campaign for Save the Children.In 1990 he was honoured by the Archbishop of Canterbury with a Lambeth Degree in recognition for his work in the media."
• :BBC Biography [http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/sunhalfhour/biography.shtml]: "Reverend Canon Roger Royle was ordained in the Church of England in 1962 and served his first curacy at St. Mary's, Portsea, Portsmouth. During his career he served as Conduct and Senior Chaplain of Eton College but in 1979 ... [he] leave[s] Eton and become[s] a non-stipendiary curate in the Diocese of Southwark. He also began working as the promoter of a preventative medicine campaign for Save the Children. ... In 1990 he was honoured by the Archbishop of Canterbury with a Lambeth Degree in recognition for his work in the media."
• Ryanpostlewaite at Anne Keothavong: "She has two brothers and a sister. Older brother James is a professional umpire, younger sister Lena is at university, younger brother Mark at school. Anne grew up playing park tennis at Hackney Downs Park and Highbury Fields. She loves kickboxing and would like to train and compete in tournaments once her tennis career is over."
• :LTA Player Profile [http://www.lta.org.uk/Performance/TopPlayerProfiles/TopPlayersWomen/KeothavongAnne.htm]: "Has two brothers and a sister. Older brother James is a professional umpire, younger sister Lena is at university, younger brother Mark at school. ... Grew up playing park tennis at Hackney Downs Park and Highbury Fields. Loves kickboxing and would like to train and compete in tournaments once tennis career is over."

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I think it's a little unfair to claim that "much of the content Ryan has contributed" is copied. He's made a lot of contributions and you've only provided three examples here. - Alison^☺ 12:45, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

: Except he hasn't. Nearly all his mainspace contributions are vandalism reverts or minor formatting issues. These represent a large fraction of the actual content he's created. Dragons flight 15:13, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

:Plagiarism is serious no matter how many times it has happened. Sarah 19:14, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

::Oh, I agree. My concern was around the word "much" as it tends to overshadow his edits, the vast majority of which seem just fine - Alison^☺ 19:39, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

::I have given Harold Gaba, Roger Royle, and Anne Keothavong minor rewrites for now. More work should be done. IrishGuy ^talk 19:50, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

• Comment This is a very legitamate concern that Dragons flight has raised, I am not going to change anything in the articles that he has quoted at present, it is only fair that users who wish to contribute to this Rfa can fully see the concerns without me trying to cover them up. As soon as this is finished, I will fully address the issue on all the articles RyanPostlethwaite^{See the mess I've created or let's have banter} 15:23, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
• Actually, if you could fix them and then link here to the older revisions, that might indicate that you've understood what Dragons flight is talking about. I don't think anyone would consider it an attempt at a cover-up.Chick Bowen 02:53, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

As an immediate response to the copyright violations, I have edited all the articles in question to remove any suspect material, I will provide the old and new revisions for all articles in question Ryanpostlethwaite contribs/talk 03:21, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roger_Royle&oldid=112175920 Old revision]
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roger_Royle&oldid=112975833 New revision]
• Comment Post my original formatting, an IP added unsourced data about Roger Royle retiring, I have removed this, and will attempt to find a source tomorrow

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harold_Gaba&oldid=109056367 Old revision]
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harold_Gaba&oldid=112973873 New revision]

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Taurus_Nike_Tomahawk_TNT&oldid=99805039 Old revision]
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Taurus_Nike_Tomahawk_TNT&oldid=112881929 Current revision]

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Pharmacological_Society&oldid=107597099 Old revision]
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Pharmacological_Society&oldid=112884715 New revision]

• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anne_Keothavong&oldid=111017027 Old revision]
• [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anne_Keothavong&oldid=112881299 New revision]

Disredarding my Rfa completely, please let me know if there are any further concerns regarding this issue Ryanpostlethwaite contribs/talk 03:32, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Although Nichalp is completely correct (the copyright status of the original image can be found at: [http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/disclaim.html]), I would suspect that many admins would have made the same mistake as Ryan. He has said that he doesn't have any intention of working on image copyright problems and I am convinced his contributions in other areas would make him a valuable addition to the admin team. WjBscribe 19:09, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

:I don't suppose "contributions in other areas" would include writing the occasional article? I do not feel I can trust him to do that much. — CharlotteWebb 23:20, 10 March 2007 (UTC)