Wikipedia talk:Requests for mediation/Roman Catholic Church/Alternatives
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| "Officially known as the Catholic Church" | Xandar, NancyHeise, Marauder40, SynKobiety | Soidi, Gimmetrow, Defteri, Afterwriting | Implies that other churches and Chrisitans are not part of the "universal" Christian church. Implies that there is a single "official name" for the church. |
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| The RCC (in official usage, the Catholic Church)... | Xandar Richardshusr Marauder40 | Defteri, SynKobiety, Afterwriting | Supported by Xandar only with dashes, not brackets. Implies that only one name is officially used (Defteri) Implies that RCC in normal in non-official usage (SynKobiety) |
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| The RCC, also known as the Catholic Church,... | Richardshusr Marauder40, SynKobiety | Implies that "Roman Catholic Church" is the real name and "Catholic Church" is an abbreviation, alias or nickname | |
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| Roman Catholic Church, which titles itself "Catholic Church"(note 1)". | NancyHeise | Xandar, Marauder40, SynKobiety | Implies that this is a false or presumptuous claim. Implies that RCC is proper and more common. |
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| "which usually calls itself the Catholic Church" | Defteri, Richardshusr, Soidi, Secisek, Kraftlos | Xandar, Marauder40, SynKobiety | Implies that this is a false or presumptuous claim. Implies that RCC is proper and more common. |
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| The Catholic Church, sometimes called the Roman Catholic Church,... | SynKobiety | Implies that other churches and Chrisitans are not part of the "universal" Christian church. | |
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| "prefers to be called" | Defteri, Richardshusr, Soidi, Secisek, Kraftlos | Marauder40, Xandar, SynKobiety, Afterwriting | Doesn't specify that this is the "proper" name. Implies that RCC is more common and proper. |
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| "strongly prefers to use" | Richardshusr | Marauder40, Xandar, SynKobiety | Doesn't specify that this is the "proper" name. Implies that RCC is more common and proper. |
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| The Roman Catholic Church, which in its official documents usually calls itself the Catholic Church | Defteri, Richardshusr, Soidi, Afterwriting | Marauder40, Xandar, SynKobiety | Implies that this is a false or presumptuous claim. Implies that RCC is more common and that CC is only used in official contexts. |
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| "The Roman Catholic Church, which in its official documents calls itself the 'Catholic Church'" | NancyHeise | Marauder40, Xandar, SynKobiety | Implies that this is a false or presumptuous claim. Implies that RCC is more common and that CC is only used in official contexts. |
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| The Roman Catholic Church - in normal official usage, the Catholic Church | Xandar | Defteri, SynKobiety | What is "normal" and what is "abnormal"? Implies that RCC is more common and that CC is only used in official contexts. Implies that other churches and Chrisitans are not part of the "universal" Christian church. |
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| The Roman Catholic Church, more usually called, both informally and in the Church's official usage, the Catholic Church | Soidi, Defteri, Afterwriting | Xandar, SynKobiety | Long-winded and unencyclopedic. Implies that RCC is more proper in secular contexts. |
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| The Catholic Church (Roman Catholic) | jbmurray | Defteri, SynKobiety | Does not conform with WP:LEAD regarding the article name appearing in the first sentence |
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| The (Roman) Catholic Church | jbmurray | SynKobiety | Ugly |
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| The Catholic Church, also known as the Roman Catholic Church,... | Gimmetrow, Xandar, Richardshusr, Marauder40 jbmurray, SynKobiety, NancyHeise, Majoreditor Kraftlos Mike | Defteri, Soidi | Implies that other churches and Chrisitans are not part of the "universal" Christian church. Is not in strict conformance with WP:LEAD regarding the article name appearing "as early as possible" in the first sentence but comes pretty close. Xandar only supports this providing article name reverts to "Catholic Church". As R, M and SK said above, "also known as" implies that the second name is an alias or nickname. WP:LEAD allows for common sense variations, it states " it should be followed except where common sense warrants an exception." |