Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Buses

Please help to source this long-unsourced stub. Bearian (talk) 02:00, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

:Added. Theadventurer64 (talk) 06:06, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

Los Angeles Unified School District has information about its buses under the infrastructure section. Add it to the wikiproject? Theadventurer64 (talk) 06:07, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

Looking for a bit of assistance from someone with experience in graphics. The current icon for Greyhound Lines at Template:Rail-interchange uses an outdated version of Greyhound's logo that hasn't been used since 2009 ({{rint|us|greyhound}}.) Can anybody help by uploading a more current version of the icon (while still being compliant with WP:NFCC?) Thank you. 162 etc. (talk) 00:25, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

:Hey, @162 etc.! I'd be willing to create an icon using an SVG editor. I'm guessing it would just be the "hound" on the current logo seen here, right?

:I've never had to deal with WP:NFCC before, so I apologize in advance if I get confused at some point in the progress (I've never even created a logo before lol). Let me know what the logo should look like when you get the chance. 296cherry (talk) 02:45, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

::My understanding is that a cropped version of the image you linked (ie. the head) would be acceptable, as long as Template:Non-free use rationale logo is used. See also WP:LOGO.

::Note that these logos are small - usually a 20px square. 162 etc. (talk) 16:29, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Use in rail-interchange is essentially decorative/navigational; a non-free image would not pass NFCC 1 and 8 for such use. Either a generic icon like {{tl|bus icon}} {{bus icon}} or a similar-looking-but-free image should be used instead of non-free images.

:::That said, the basic hound logo (at least the outline; the shading may be modern) seems to date back to the 1930s if not earlier. Depending on the exact date of its introduction and whether copyright was renewed, it may be public domain by this point.

:::However, at the scale of rail-interchange, neither the full hound nor a cropped version are likely to be legible. The logo is complex and horizontally aligned - great for denoting speed, not great for an icon. The only logos that work well in rail-interchange are squarish and simple like {{rint|us|amtrak}} {{rint|us|amtrak}} and {{rint|us|megabus}} {{rint|us|megabus}}. Given that, I would recommend just using a generic icon. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:10, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

::::Oof, after I saw your comment I spent about two hours trying to find a way to work around these copyright restrictions, but I just can't do it. I would either use a generic icon like Pi suggested or just keep it as-is. 296cherry (talk) 22:46, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

::::Admittedly, it's not a great logo for an icon, but it can be done. [https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-1/382168550_706323491525227_761081023093987272_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s100x100_tt6&_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=2d3e12&_nc_ohc=8aSdTzD1adwQ7kNvwEBEotn&_nc_oc=Adk2bypMgthIR1lVcAFVvvJShrDlA0LOFj9uKJe74FUNuK6jbkY019gL_IxNc1YofIE&_nc_zt=24&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&_nc_gid=Zc67lN9pjAuki25yRZ6MzA&oh=00_AfGb-h_spxZ3iF3vgjSQ1BARWwkgk9qY88WMwyCE2f-m1g&oe=6810E296 Here] is what Greyhound uses on its Facebook profile, for example. 162 etc. (talk) 04:15, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

:::::That’s actually pretty similar to what I was going to make. Mine would have been the head inside of a dark blue circle. @162 etc. 296cherry (talk) 04:33, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

::::Hey @Pi.1415926535, if I were to ask for permission to use a modified form of the logo from Greyhound, would that be allowed? I have no idea if Greyhound would accept it but I would like to try. 296cherry (talk) 07:52, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

:::::@296cherry: To be blunt, I wouldn't waste time trying. Companies tend to be very protective of their intellectual property; they're not going to release any version of their logo under a free license just so it can be used as a tiny icon. We should just use a generic icon, either the default black or recolored to the blue that Greyhound uses. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:28, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

::::::I like the recolored idea! 296cherry (talk) 22:18, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

:@162 etc. @Pi.1415926535 I did some work and created two possible icons. One is simply the [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Aiga_bus_trans_Greyhound.svg generic bus icon recolored] in "Greyhound" blue. File:Aiga bus trans Greyhound.svg The other is a [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Greyhound_transit_icon.svg custom icon] I made, traced from a public domain stock image. File:Greyhound transit icon.svg

:Let me know what you think! :) 296cherry (talk) 08:11, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

::I would go with the recolored generic icon. I like the concept of the hound icon - great work on that - but the subtle shape of a hound's head doesn't seem to be recognizable at 20px scale. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 09:02, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Thank you for the compliment! :) I'm cool with the recolored generic icon as well, thank you guys for your help. 296cherry (talk) 09:56, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

::My vote is for the "dog" logo.

::Thank you for your contributions.

::I've left a message at Template talk:Rail-interchange notifying the project of this discussion. 162 etc. (talk) 16:02, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

:::I noticed that the dog logo looks better on mobile since it’s a little larger. I’ll edit it to make the hound more recognizable. 296cherry (talk) 19:23, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

:::I think the hound needs to be more recognisable, but I am leaning towards that option because the generic bus icon could potentially be confused with other uses of the generic bus icon, especially if they also use a dark blue to dark green colour. --Minoa (talk) 16:49, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

::::I tried my best to make it distinguishable. Here's what each logo might look like in an article:

::::* {{rint|toronto|subway|1}} Union subway station

::::* {{rint|gotransit|bus}} Union Station Bus Terminal

::::* {{rint|toronto|bus}} TTC bus routes

::::* {{rint|toronto|streetcar}} TTC streetcars

::::* File:Greyhound transit icon.svg Greyhound Bus

::::* File:Aiga bus trans Greyhound.svg Greyhound Bus

::::@162 etc. @Minoa @Pi.1415926535 296cherry (talk) 00:02, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

:::::Any thoughts? 296cherry (talk) 14:24, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

::::::The bottom two icons (the Greyhound icons) appear rather large to me compared to other rint icons. Those like the Amtrak icon that are at 20px scale typically have some whitespace; the generic bus icon is 12px. I would recommend using 12px or 15 px (File:Greyhound transit icon.svg File:Greyhound transit icon.svg File:Aiga bus trans Greyhound.svg File:Aiga bus trans Greyhound.svg) at which scale the bus looks better than the hound. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 20:03, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

My script notification button isn't working, so here's a manual one - just as well as it's listed as an RM however it appears to be more of a merge proposal, and looks like something this project might be interested in! ASUKITE 14:28, 20 March 2025 (UTC)