Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket#Dick Pilling

Summer (possibly) is upon us in the UK and Ireland! There are still dozens of major cricket venues that do not have photos. If anyone can knock these off, that would be greatly appreciated!

• Grounds in England
• Grounds in Ireland
• Grounds in Scotland
• Grounds in Wales

AA (talk) 15:54, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

Also, how you can help:

I'm sure most of you remember the WP:LUGSTUBS2 discussions. Some editors are trying to move forward with mass removal. One of them has produced lists of cricketers split by nationality on the village pump. Please take a look at these and try to add at least one non-database-type source to each of the listed articles. WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:36, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:Of the articles with the template Special draft pending, five are categorised as international cricketers so should be easy to source - Chandi Wickramasinghe Ankur Vasishta, Collette McGuiness, Champa Sugathadasa and Bilal Shah. Hack (talk) 03:09, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:I've worked through the list of 50 British cricketers. Several have already had sourcing added, and there are some that strike me as definite possibilities if anyone has the time or inclination (mainly Essex, Gloucestershire, and Surrey):

:* David Gray (cricketer) – redirect to List of Cambridge University Cricket Club players#G for now. There's brief text at CricInfo and an obituary in 2004 Wisden, albeit brief. I imagine a suitably detailed search would probably find more on him (war service, Winchester, Cambridge). I imagine this could be extended

:* Arthur Johnston (cricketer) – a candidate for expansion. Played rugby at a high level and there's a prose paragraph in CricInfo already. I suspect sources could be found. Initially I might redirect to List of Essex County Cricket Club players#J as he played the majority of his cricket for Essex

:* Alison White (cricketer) – redirect to List of Gloucestershire County Cricket Club players#W initially. Notes say he won the DSO in 1916 and went to Cheltenham and Cambridge. Seems to have later been known as Gordon-White. Born at Sydney NSW. Seems likely that there's more detail here

:* Charles Edwards (English cricketer) – certainly has the potential for development. Brief Wisden obit, but he was a colonel in the RASC, MC in 1917 and DSO in 1919. Went to Cheltenham. Born in South Africa. We could initially redirect to List of Gloucestershire County Cricket Club players#E, but this is certainly ripe for expansion

:* Arthur Newnham – also played in India and for the Gentlemen. There's quite a detailed obit at Wisden. Army, lt-col, serving mainly abroad. Captained Malvern, so chances are more sources exist. We could redirect to List of Gloucestershire County Cricket Club players#N initially, but I'm fairly certain more sources exist

:* Charles Morgan (Surrey cricketer) – quite a detailed Wisden obit and the chances are there will be others. We could redirect in the short term, but I imagine there is enough to develop the article. The redirect would be to List of Surrey County Cricket Club players#M

:* Alfred Bashford – the prose at CricInfo suggests that more will be found here – church, Merchant Taylors, hockey, Cambridge etc... CricketArchive adds some detail and there's a brief Wisden obit. We could redirect to List of Middlesex County Cricket Club players#B in the short term, but there are almost certainly sources here

:* Barrie Bennett – redirect to List of Cambridge University Cricket Club players#B. Seems to have been in the army so there may be more here

:* Cecil Booth (cricketer) – redirect to List of Cambridge University Cricket Club players#B. Played for Surrey Second XI and presumably there will be war service, but nothing obviously stands out

:* Charles Brereton (cricketer) – redirect to List of Cambridge University Cricket Club players#B. Was at Marlborough and the name is one of those that crops up in Norfolk sources, so there may well be something there

:* Charles Calvert (Cambridge University cricketer) – redirect to List of Cambridge University Cricket Club players#C. Captained Shrewsbury, so there would well be some more to be found

:* Alexander Cox (cricketer) – redirect to List of Cambridge University Cricket Club players#C probably. His brief Wisden obit says he was a "well known racehorse owner" so, given when he was alive, there may well be enough sources. Was at Harrow

:This is copied from Wikipedia talk:Lugstubs 2 list. I've already gone through a lot of New Zealanders, and I think every Australian is a least a redirect Blue Square Thing (talk) 09:36, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

::* For all the ones that have plausible redirects to team list articles, it makes so much more sense to redirect them rather than draftify them, as an WP:ATD. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:11, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:::*Yes. This was mentioned several times in the original discussion I think. The alternative seems to be that it's moved to draft, I move it back - duplicating the article as the draft is not deleted -, and then redirect the article. Which seems a tonne of work. Redirect is what would almost certainly happen at an AfD I think Blue Square Thing (talk) 15:01, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:Not sure how helpful it is to have the lists at the Village Pump. Should there be a WP:Cric subpage for this? Also isn't very useful to have them in very long lists of 170 players. Did someone already clear letters E onwards? Anyway, here is the Australian list broken down into players by state, which could be useful if we are to just redirect them to the state by state lists of cricketers. The-Pope (talk) 17:12, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

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1. Charles Robinson (Australian cricketer)
2. Arthur Jackson (cricketer)
3. Charles Munro (cricketer)
4. Clement Wellington
5. Alexander Robinson (cricketer, born 1924)
6. Alfred Patfield
7. Alfred Randell
8. Archibald Hardie
9. Albert Drew
10. Albert Rigby
11. Alexander Webster (cricketer)
12. Derek Woodhead
13. Clint Auty
14. Craig Coulson

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{{Collapse top|South Australian cricketer tagged list (22)}}

1. :Alan Favell
2. :Albert Weeks
3. :Alex Weir (cricketer)
4. :Alexander Slight
5. :Allen Edwards (cricketer)
6. :Andrew Eime
7. :Arthur Evans (cricketer)
8. :Arthur McBeath
9. :Arthur Thomas (Australian cricketer)
10. :Ashley Hammond
11. :Barry Causby
12. :Barry Curtin
13. :Ben Higgins (cricketer)
14. :Brad Wigney
15. :Brian Illman
16. :Charles Drew (cricketer)
17. :Chris Killen (cricketer)
18. :Chris Owen (cricketer)
19. :Colin Watts
20. :Cornelius Kenneally
21. :Darren Chyer
22. :David Strudwick

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{{Collapse top|Tasmania cricketer tagged list (44)}}

1. :Alan Jacobson
2. :Albert Frost (cricketer)
3. :Algernon Findlay
4. :Allen Limb
5. :Anthony Spillane
6. :Anthony Walters (cricketer)
7. :Arnell Horton
8. :Arthur Braithwaite
9. :Arthur Crowder
10. :Arthur Davis (Australian cricketer)
11. :Arthur Thomlinson
12. :Arthur Trebilcock
13. :Arthur Watt
14. :Baden Sharman
15. :Barry Beard
16. :Brian Carney (cricketer)
17. :Brian Cartledge
18. :Brian Patterson (cricketer)
19. :Brian Sheen
20. :Bruce Hodgetts
21. :Bruce John
22. :Cecil Oakes
23. :Cecil Perry
24. :Cecil Wood (Australian cricketer)
25. :Charles Hammond (Australian cricketer)
26. :Charles McAllen
27. :Charles Payne (Australian cricketer)
28. :Charles Robinson (Australian cricketer)
29. :Charles Russen (cricketer)
30. :Charles Vautin
31. :Clarence Driscoll
32. :Clarence Lee (cricketer)
33. :Clifton Hurburgh
34. :Clifton Jeffery
35. :Clyde Lucas (cricketer)
36. :Colin Arnold
37. :Colin Richardson (cricketer)
38. :Craig Brown (cricketer)
39. :Dale O'Halloran
40. :Daniel Archer (cricketer)
41. :Darrell Jackman
42. :David Mullett
43. :Dennis Blair (cricketer)
44. :Derreck Calvert

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{{Collapse top|Queensland cricketer tagged list (18)}}

1. :Albert Hewitt
2. :Albert Sims
3. :Alec Parker (cricketer)
4. :Andrew Hammelmann
5. :Anthony Brown (cricketer)
6. :Brad Inwood
7. :Brad Ipson
8. :Brian Grace
9. :Bruce Taylor (Australian cricketer)
10. :Charles Mengel
11. :Chris Smart
12. :Clarence McCoombe
13. :Clive Page
14. :Col Westaway
15. :Daniel Coleborn
16. :Darren Kingdon
17. :David Ellis (Australian cricketer)
18. :Derek Tate

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{{Collapse top|Victoria cricketer tagged list (36)}}

1. :Adam Hope (cricketer)
2. :Alan Davidson (cricketer, born 1897)
3. :Albert Brown (Australian cricketer)
4. :Albert Fox (cricketer)
5. :Albert Lansdown
6. :Albert Philpott
7. :Alcon Bowman
8. :Allan Jinks
9. :Andrew Wildsmith
10. :Anthony Amalfi
11. :Arthur Lewis (Australian cricketer)
12. :Ashley Gilbert
13. :Ashley Robertson (cricketer)
14. :Augustus Hotham
15. :Bartholomew Grant
16. :Brendan Ricci
17. :Brent Lodding
18. :Brian Porter (cricketer)
19. :Bruce Moir
20. :Bryan Doyle (cricketer)
21. :Bryan McGan
22. :Carey Smith
23. :Charles Alsop
24. :Charles Foot
25. :Charles Gardner (Australian cricketer)
26. :Charles Hendrie
27. :Charles Letcher
28. :Col Costorphin
29. :Colin Thwaites
30. :Craig Howard (cricketer)
31. :Darren Walker (cricketer)
32. :David Cowper (cricketer)
33. :David Harris (Victoria cricketer)
34. :David King (cricketer)
35. :David Shepard (cricketer)
36. :David Sutherland (cricketer)

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{{Collapse top|NSW cricketer tagged list (38)}}

1. :Albert Whiting
2. :Alfred Park (cricketer)
3. :Alfred Sullivan
4. :Alfred White (Australian cricketer)
5. :Allan Anderson (cricketer)
6. :Allan Cooper
7. :Andrew Jones (Australian cricketer)
8. :Andrew Sainsbury
9. :Anthony Clark (cricketer)
10. :Anthony Kershler
11. :Arthur Fisher (Australian sportsman)
12. :Arthur Furness
13. :Arthur McBeath
14. :Arthur Munn
15. :Arthur Nichols (cricketer)
16. :Arthur Wells (Australian cricketer)
17. :Aubrey Johnston
18. :Benjamin Salmon
19. :Bernard Colreavy
20. :Bert Shortland
21. :Bertie Grounds
22. :Brett van Deinsen
23. :Carvick Thompson
24. :Cecil McKew
25. :Charles Kellick
26. :Charles Lawes (cricketer)
27. :Charles Nicholls
28. :Charles O'Brien (cricketer)
29. :Charles Smith Gregory
30. :Chris Beatty (cricketer)
31. :Craig Glassock
32. :Cyril Solomon
33. :Dan Horsley
34. :Darren Tucker
35. :Dave Chardon
36. :David Johnston (New South Wales cricketer)
37. :David Noonan (cricketer)
38. :David Ogilvy (cricketer)

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:Thanks for breaking the Australians down – that's really helpful. The British list is at Wikipedia talk:Lugstubs 2 list#British list. I'm currently working through the New Zealanders at User:Blue Square Thing/sandbox3#NZ – have 5 Wellingtonians, 16 Canterburians and an odd one to check for sources for. If anyone wants to take a look the list is there and I'll move it across to Wikipedia talk:Lugstubs 2 list when I'm done in a few weeks. Zimbabwe is a short list...

:I think a limit of 1200 was set and the query used worked by first name, so that's why it only gets part way through D. I imagine the plan was to polish those off quickly and then do a lot more in the second tranche. This followed on from WP:LUGSTUBS which considered nearly 1000 Olympians. I've no idea how many of those were brought back into mainspace Blue Square Thing (talk) 19:03, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

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