Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Horse racing

Hello, I was wondering if anyone might help to make improvements to the article about this year's Oaks and Derby-winning trainer. It appears to be in need of lots of cleanup and copy edits, not to mention that there have also been some COI issues raised on that page in the past. JRHorse (talk) 11:57, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

:Hi!

:JRHorse, I would be happy to help! I will take a look at it now.{{ping|JRHorse}} (Annointed777 (talk)) Annointed777 Annointed777 (talk) 03:36, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

::I am new to this so I am not sure exactly how to do this. Here is a suggested opening paragraph. I will add the links and references.

::Kenneth G. McPeek (born August 2, 1962) is an American Thoroughbred racehorse trainer and bloodstock agent. McPeek is best known for winning the 2024 Kentucky Derby (G1) with Mystic Dan and the 2024 Kentucky Oaks (G1) with Thorpedo Anna, becoming the third trainer in history to sweep both races in the same year. The 2024 Kentucky Derby win also made McPeek one of only five living trainers who have won all three Triple Crown races.

::McPeek won his first classic in 2002 with the 70-1 longshot Sarava in the Belmont Stakes (G1). Eighteen years later, he won the 2020 Preakness (G1) with the filly Swiss Skydiver.

::As a bloodstock agent, McPeek is known for purchasing remarkable talent for modest prices at auctions. He purchased two-time Horse of the Year Curlin at the 2005 Keeneland sale for $57,000 and the 2020 Preakness winner Swiss Skydiver for $35,000.

::McPeek saddled his 2,000th career winner on February 21, 2024, at Turfway Park with a first-time starter by Justify. As of July 31, 2024, he has career earnings of $126,474,936.

::Please let me know if you like this and please feel free to make any changes or suggestions!!!{{Pink|JRHORSE}}(Annointed777 (talk)) Annointed777 Annointed777 (talk) 05:05, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

:::JRHorse and Community,

:::I have been working on Kenneth McPeek's page. The page says that missing template date, is this why it is so difficult to edit? I don't k=how to fix it. It takes three steps for each edit. Is there anyway to fix it? I will have this page finish and ready for you to review in the next 7 to 10 days. If you could help me fix the problem with the edits I would appreciate it. It is really slowing the process down.{{ping|JRHorse}} (Annointed777 (talk) 03:05, 4 August 2024 (UTC))Annonted777

Hello, I propose moving the above - please see the Talk here if you'd like to chip in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pretty_Polly_Stakes_(Ireland)

Regards Billsmith60 (talk) 14:25, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

:This has been proposed again - this time the correct way - if you'd like to add your views. Regards Billsmith60 (talk) 13:44, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

I've just noticed that the Pedigree template has been recently modified with the width of 90% removed. This squashes the pedigree information into a poorly formatted representation which just lacks clarity to the eye. I'd like to get the opinions of the project and ask the editors {{u|‎GhostInTheMachine}}, {{u|MSGJ}}, {{u|Jonesey95}} and {{u|Pppery}} why this modification was done without input from this project, which extensively uses this template in the articles of thoroughbred racehorses.Brudder Andrusha (talk) 16:12, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

:I have no opinion on the width. How would anyone know to notify this project? There is no WikiProject template on the template's talk page, and the template has zero documentation explaining what is is for, how the parameters work, or anything else. If you want to be consulted, please make your presence known in the usual ways. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:23, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

::I would think that before changing something in a template you would locate where the template is used. Why just change a parameter of a table? Who even proposed it and why? Consultation after you made the edit is like well the horse bolted before the first race...Brudder Andrusha (talk) 19:34, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

I've created the above page for the top-class French-bred horse of the late 60s, although what's there is as much as I can accumulate at present. I found a Timeform rating of 132 for him, but punter chat has him at 126 Billsmith60 (talk) 15:33, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

:I've added some categories and linked Karabas in some of his race wins. Bcp67 (talk) 20:20, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

File:Information.svg There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Uma Musume Pretty Derby#Requested move 21 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 15:31, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Hi, I just wanted to introduce myself. I am Annointed777. I am very new to Wikipedia and would love to help anyone I can. I have the most knowledge in Thoroughbred trainers, jockeys, breeding and stake Races. I have owned and bred Arabian show horses so I also understand a lot about medication and injuries in horses and have been following Thoroughbred racehorses for years. I haven't started a page on my own yet, but would love to get to that point. In the meantime, I am happy to contribute, do research or help in anyway I can. I am so happy I found this group!!! Thank you {{ping|Wiki Project Horse Racing}} (Annointed777 (talk))Annointed777 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Annointed777 (talk • contribs) 06:12, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

: Hi Annointed777, unsure if you have joined Wiki Commons too, we could always use new photos, if you know of any Wikipedia articles that are photo-less, trainers, owners, jockeys, and could take a snap or 2 and upload them to https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page thats always welcome.James Kevin McMahon (talk) 14:55, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

Hi Everyone, I think all the problems with Kennth McPeek (trainer) are fixed and it is ready for review. I am still trying to get photos from Associated Press. I also want to add Trainer Titles, should that under awards, honors or a new heading Trainer Titles? Please review the page. Once it's approved I'll start another page off the list! If someone would like to choose a trainer, jockey or horse from the US, I am happy to work on the! {{ping|WikiProjectHorseRacing}} {{ping|JRHorse}} {{ping|StefenTower}} Stefen Tower, I pinged you because Kenneth McPeek is a horse trainer from Kentucky so I thought you might want to review it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Annointed777 (talk • contribs) 04:36, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

Beholder (horse) has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 14:17, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

An editor is adding sections titled "sire line tree" in many named-horse articles. This term isn't described in any of the equine glossaries in Wikipedia, nor wiktionary, nor in any of several equine dictionaries and encyclopedias I have checked.

1. What is it?
2. What reliable source describes what this is?

  ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 02:35, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

: I figured it out, added it to the glossary, and created a redirect for Sire line pointing to Glossary of equestrian terms#sire line. In articles, these lengthy-vertical lists should be collapsed. I have been using {{Code|{{collapse top|title=Sire line descent tree}}}} and {{Code|{{collapse bottom}}}}.   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 19:23, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Foxford (horse)

1) Is this how we should do draft horse bio articles?

2) A big job, but I started moving Trainer articles from Category:horse trainers to Category:racehorse trainers. However, after looking at Baseball, Football, Hockey players etc., they all have a precise category(s) designation. i.e. Major League Baseball third basemen, American Football Quarterbacks. Also, check out the Categories in "man-vehicle" list of Stirling Moss. I think we should follow what appears to be Wikipedia standardization but without going overboard & suggest Category:American Thoroughbred racehorse trainers - American Standardbred racehorse trainer. Would like opinions. Thanks. Xavier Newcombe. — Preceding undated comment added 10:07, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Fantastic Light has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 17:19, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

I've just added a page for Ken Kling, who through his comic strip Joe and Asbestos (1924-1968) and his long-running tip sheet Joe & Asbestos Sports Weekly (!930s into at least the '60s, with someone continuing it in the '70s after Kling's death) was the most visible picker of horses for much of the 20th century. I'm coming at it from reasonable working knowledge of comics, but less of horse racing, so it might be good if someone gave it a look over and polish from that angle. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 15:40, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

I was browsing for spelling errors for "quarter" spelled as "quater" on the site and found a large number of horse-related articles that use "quater" instead of "quarter," especially horse names. Initially, I just assumed a misspelling and changed the spelling to "quarter," but I began to see more articles related to horses where this spelling was used. When I searched the terms and specific horses, it appeared both spellings are widely used in this field and also seem to be used interchangeably (even for the same horse). I have no specialized knowledge or experience in regards to horses or horse racing, so this is far out of my field. I have stopped making changes related to this spelling for the time being, but some guidance for the future would be helpful on whether these spellings should be changed or not. Thanks! Wikipedialuva (talk) 11:09, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

: It looks like a derivative of the word quaternary which means 1. consisting of fours or by fours 2. fourth in a series 3. chemistry: containing or being an atom bound to four other atoms or groups: a quaternary ammonium compound 4. mathematics: having four variables. https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/quaternaries James Kevin McMahon (talk) 12:15, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

::{{yo|Wikipedialuva}}, you may want to cross-post at WikiProject Equine also. My guess is 90% of these will be typos where “Quarter” is intended—especially if the topic is related to the American Quarter Horse breed. The rest are probably situations where they meant to say Qatar, as the UAE nations are quite active in horse racing. Montanabw^(talk) 06:02, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

I recently changed all the trainer articles "American horse trainers" categories to "American racehorse trainers". It was a lot of work but nevertheless it still leaves questions and possible editing errors. I found there was a distinct Category for trainers of harness racing horses so would ask for input on again changing what I already did to one of these choices:

Category:American Thoroughbred racehorse trainers

Category:American trainers of Thoroughbred racehorses Xavier Newcombe (talk) 16:55, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

:{{yo|Xavier Newcombe}}, I recommend leaving it as just America racehorse trainers. We also have Quarter Horse racing, Arabian racing, mule racing… if the harness racing people want their own category, they can have one, but we have people who work cross-disciplines and such, so we definitely need the general one. Montanabw^(talk) 06:05, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

File:Information.svg There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Pretty Polly Stakes (Ireland)#Requested move 21 February 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Sophisticatedevening ^(talk) 14:09, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

Due to Handicapper's outdated formatting (such as including place of birth in lede sentences, no adjectives such as "American", "Panamanian", and constant out-of-format articles for jockeys), a lot of their articles are in need of getting them to standards seen for NFL and pro sports players. 9mm.trilla (talk) 20:07, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

Lots of links intended for the horse seem to [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:WhatLinksHere/Phalaris&namespace=0&limit=500 point to the tyrant] if anybody wants to fix them. —Srnec (talk) 19:18, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Please do not add horse racing articles to the WP:WikiProject Equine unless there is some other connection besides horse racing. Several articles of individual "race horses" have come across my awareness, and I am now removing wikipjt equine from their talk pages ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=insource%3A%22WikiProject+Japan%22+horse+racing+equine&title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&ns1=1 potentially over 200 articles] just for Japanese horses).   ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 20:21, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

:Probably isn’t any of the regulars here, but wise if everyone keeps an eye out for these and fixes them. Might be a few horses who need double tagging, if they are linked in non-WPHR horse articles, but that can be determined on a case by case basis. If there’s 200 articles on Japanese horses, though, yikes! I’m suspicious of stuff being mass-generated. Or paid editors. Or just not-notable .Montanabw^(talk) 05:56, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

Hey gang, for some reason, I felt the need to do a cleanup and substantial expansion of Joao Moreira (jockey). I brought it mostly up to speed (not sure the stats list at the bottom is needed, but I also don’t have time to review it in depth, so kept for now), but what I don’t know is how to find his total races run and won because he raced worldwide and all Equibase has are his 17 US Races. Any help much appreciated, or if anyone wants to pop over there and tweak the piece further, that’s fine with me. Montanabw^(talk) 06:56, 4 May 2025 (UTC)