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Proposed changes to [[Template:Infobox academic]]

There is a proposal to reorganize Template:Infobox academic. Please feel free to participate in the discussion here. Thanks! — hike395 (talk) 05:31, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

DIY combo table-infobox for ship article

The article BAP Carrasco has a non-Wikitable class table with Infoboxes embedded in the cells, to make what in the end, looks like one Infobox. Is this (or was this) a standard way of creating them? Mathglot (talk) 05:52, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

:Yes, that's how {{tl|infobox ship}} has always functioned (see the usage guide), though the decision was made to merge the templates back in 2022 (which apparently hasn't happened yet). Parsecboy (talk) 10:28, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

:: Wow, that's kind of a surprise. Well, I can see why they haven't been merged yet, as it would be a fair bit of work. Even just updating the doc page would be non-trivial. Thanks for the update.

:: I don't feel like taking it on just now, but as a template editor, at first glance I think I see how I would approach it if I wanted to do this, which would be in three major steps (with some sub-tasks, not shown):

::# Write a wrapper template, not based on invoking {{tl|Infobox}}, but rather on all four of the individual templates now described on the usage guide page, the goal being to render an Infobox exactly as you have now using the individual templates, but via only one template (the wrapper), instead of several. A new doc page could be written for the wrapper, looking just like a standard Infobox doc page.

::# Write a second, transitional wrapper, that would automatically pull existing param values from the wikicode of the four ship templates on the page using {{tl|tmpv}} and then invoke the main wrapper with those values, obviating the need to convert existing articles to use the wrapper. Three new lines would be needed per article to transition: one line to invoke the transitional wrapper, and one ... pair surrounding the existing four ship templates.

::# After a period of usage to shake out any issues, bugs, or questions, write a new template in the sandbox which would invoke {{tl|Infobox}} and duplicate the output of the wrapper. Releasing it should be seamless, and not visible to users of it. In theory, the doc page would need no updates at all, if properly written for the wrapper. Existing articles could be converted to the new, single template if desired, or just keep using the transitional wrapper, which should look identical. Future ship articles would just use the single template from step 3.

:: Maybe if I get the time some time later, I'll do it. Mathglot (talk) 10:53, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

:::See {{slink|Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Holding_cell|Infoboxes}}.

:::—Trappist the monk (talk) 18:21, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

:Please join the discussion at Template talk:Infobox ship#Proposal for a new merged version. Kcx36 (talk) 07:05, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

A complaint about an Infobox template

I noticed on several London railway station articles that the template Infobox London station uses factually incorrect wording.

In the source editor, it shows one parameter asborough = but on the visual editor, when you exit the Infobox edit page, it says “Local authority”. I don’t agree with this because to speak of an authority, is to speak of a group that governs, like a council. Editors put London boroughs in the parameter. And I don’t blame them. It does say “borough” on the parameter. But London boroughs are not authorities. Their councils are. For example, the London Borough of Camden is administered by Camden London Borough Council. This matter has been discussed for some time now at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK geography#Places and their unitary authorities, which they drifted into this argument whilst raising concern for the misunderstanding of unitary authorities. Although that talk has come to a sudden end and not reached consensus yet, the editors involved in the conversation - which administrators have also said the following - are on the side of districts not to be called authorities or not to be confused with authorities.

I am typing this to raise concern for the incorrect information and hopefully raise a discussion of why the Infobox does this and how we can improve.

I await your response. FeistyRooster (talk) 14:30, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

:Naive question: why not change the infobox's description from "Local authority" to "Borough"? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 14:45, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

::I don't know how to do that. FeistyRooster (talk) 14:52, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

:::The usual procedure is to raise your concern at Template talk:Infobox London station and notify the relevant projects, e.g. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject London Transport. To make that change, edit Template:Infobox London station/sandbox by first copying (synchronising) from Template:Infobox London station and then changing |label2 = Local authority to |label2 = Borough, and then inspect Template:Infobox London station/testcases how that change appears. Finally, make that change in Template:Infobox London station. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 00:37, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

Parameters with space in the name

I would like to call your attention to Template talk:Infobox#Parameters with space in the name. As it could have ramifications to the project, your participation would be appreciated.

Yiba (talk | contribs) 02:10, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

No boroughs in infoboxes...just cities

There is a content dispute at Talk:Linda Lovelace#Birthplace in infobox, where an editor insists that "Place of birth: city, administrative region, country"...means if the place of birth is anything but a "city"--such at a borough, village, town, or canton--it cannot be included. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 14:17, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

Where to report a broken infobox?

Hi all

I'm not sure if I should report this here on the infobox talk page, I assume that this page has much higher traffic and the issue is more likely to be fixed, also I don't know if it is some kind of structural issue (I know some infoboxes share things). I've discovered that the channel link in :Template:Infobox YouTube personality isn't working. As an example try clicking on the channel link in the infobox in Tolarian Community College, it goes to the correct link but then YouTube just redirects you to the front page. My guess is that YouTube has changed how it structures channel URLs and this just hasn't been picked up yet. It looks like some people are doing some kind of workaround using full URLs eg ContraPoints, but it does seem like something is broken.

Thanks

John Cummings (talk) 13:06, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

:Its also seems like the gold_button=yes and silver_button=yes tags don't work correctly. John Cummings (talk) 14:40, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

  • I've implemented a fix on the /channel/channel_name links, but unless I can find a /user/ link to research, I'm not sure if I've completely solved the problem yet. VanIsaac, GHTV contrabout 15:25, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

::Well, turns out I broke other things with the fix. So I've asked at template talk:Infobox YouTube personality about how to handle things. VanIsaac, GHTV contrabout 18:02, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

:::Hi {{u|Vanisaac}}, thanks very much for your help, this is all way above my technical ability :) John Cummings (talk) 09:52, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Anybody home?

The top of Wikipedia:WikiProject Infoboxes claims this group is inactive. If you're not, please fix the template. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:51, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

:I’ve wondered for quite sometime who determines inactivity and using what criteria. Anyone know the answer? — TadgStirkland401 (TadgTalk) 22:46, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

::I was here last month with a dispute regarding Linda Lovelace. --Magnolia677 (talk) 22:49, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

::@TadgStirkland401, the usual criteria are listed at Template:WikiProject status. The most important one is unwritten: If you think you are an active participant of a WikiProject, and someone else marks it "inactive", then you are allowed to revert it. What we want is for editors to see, at a glance, whether there's someone here and available to help anyone who asks for help. If that's true about this group (and since questions on this talk page are getting answers, I'd say it is), then this group should not be marked as inactive.

::If you'd like to develop the group, consider the advice at WP:REVIVE. One thing this group could uniquely do is try to shine a light on :Category:Wikipedia articles with an infobox request. For example, you could remind other WikiProjects about their sub-categories and suggest that they organize a drive to reduce those requests. (IMO it's more productive to fulfill actual requests than to fight about whether to force an infobox into a particular article where it is probably not wanted.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:11, 19 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Based on everything I’m seeing, this is NOT an inactive group. I’ll see about fixing it tomorrow. Thanks for the help. — TadgStirkland401 (TadgTalk) 03:55, 20 April 2025 (UTC)