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The article :Joachim Lubomirski has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Unreferenced and unimproved for over 15 years. No other language has an article from which to translate. The creator left Wikipedia about 10 years ago.

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There is a discussion at talk:Donald Tusk#Nth prime minister which could use other voices to achieve a consensus. Although the discussion is centralised there, it applies to all Polish prime ministers and presidents and, when settled, would become the policy of this WikiProject. The question is whether sequence numbers should be used (no other country in Europe does so) and if so, from when does the count start? Please contribute there. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 20:30, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

:The consensus reached is that no, it should not. The same applies to the infoboxes for each President of Poland. The reason is that there is no evidence that this (US) custom is used in Poland and consequently it is a WP:SYNTH (and arguably, WP:OR) violation to create it. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 15:19, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

Hello, I've been improving the Paweł Działyński article, and one my aims is to better summarize the outcome of his visit and the follow-up visit by George Carew to Poland in 1598. I'm drawing on a lot of different sources, but it occurred to me to check the Polish language version of his page for others I might check.

My impression is that most of the info there is sourced from The Small Book of Heroes of Poland; I don't have access to that book, but I think it may be oversimplifying a complex situation. It's always risky to use Google translate, but here's what it says in a key passage: "...in an official diplomatic letter, Elizabeth accepted the terms of the Polish king. The seized ships were released, and the freedom of navigation under the flags of Gdansk and Elbląg – restored. The Działyński delegation was a complete success." This doesn't match what the sources I've found say, but I don't want to overlook anything. I assume the Heroes book isn't trying to be serious history, but there must have been Poles at the time who felt that was a good summary of the results, and I'd like to read about them.

For example, I'd like to read Polish court or Sejm reports from the time. On the English government side, quite a lot of that is available online so I'm pretty familiar with their point of view, and I have found a number of modern-day historians who've commented on the negotiations and outcome, too. But I'm sure Zamoyski, Tylicki and King Sigismund had their own reactions to his trip and the negotiations that followed, and I wish I had access to those records if they exist. Działyński wrote Merkuriusz sarmacki on his return, but there must be more.

One of the most helpful papers I've found in my research is by Teresa Bałuk–Ulewiczowa, [https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/british-catholic-history/article/audiatur-et-altera-pars-the-polish-record-of-the-dzialynski-embassy-of-1597/5FECC911ADFABB1E823C902F47A79A5A Audiatur et Altera Pars], which led me to commentary by Zins, Fedorowicz, Borowy, Warszewicki, Maciejewski, etc. As Bałuk–Ulewiczowa says, the English-language perspective on Działyński can be pretty simplistic, so I'm trying not to repeat those mistakes.

If there are sources you'd recommend, or if you have comments, please let me know. Unclevinny (talk) 20:26, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

File:Information.svg There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Operation Ostra Brama#Requested move 13 April 2025 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Valorrr ^{(lets chat)} 16:23, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

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The article :Masurian Institute has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Unreferenced and unimproved for over 15 years. No other language has a sourced article from which to translate. I can't read Polish.

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Please add reliable sources. Bearian (talk) 21:38, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

Białystok has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 00:46, 22 May 2025 (UTC)