Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Science#Category:Science articles needing expert attention

The new stub article Scientific language (linguistic classification) could use some attention from editors with knowledge or interest in the subject. It could use some English-language references. Biogeographist (talk) 16:09, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

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There is a vote to adjust the spacing around the ± sign used by {{tl|val}} to provide uncertainty in scientific notation of numbers. Please go to WT:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#Spacing around ± to review, provide your opinion, and/or vote. — SkyLined (talk) 07:56, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

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There is currently a discussion at reliable sources noticeboard about the use of American Alpine Journal magazine for geology citations and more specifically, Eric Gilbertson articles on AAJ.

Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Is_publication_in_the_American_Alpine_Journal_sufficient_to_establish_the_elevation_of_a_mountain_peak? please consider participating. Graywalls (talk) 21:43, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

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The article :Primary instrument has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Tagged as Unreferenced and unimproved for 15 and 1/2 years. Tagged for Notability concerns for 5 weeks to give editors watching this a heads up. I'm not sure if this is the correct or best usage. WP:OR and WP:TNT apply here.

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An editor has extensively edited Ocean heat content, introducing tracts of unsourced technical detail in what was formerly geared toward readers of this layperson's encyclopedia. I want to avoid an edit war (see Talk:Ocean_heat_content#Definition_of_heat), and I urge project members to weigh in there. —RCraig09 (talk) 20:06, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

:The alleged "unsourced technical detail" is basics in thermodynamics, written in a separate section, with several links to the wikipedia articles of thermodynamics.

:The lead section, which RCraig09 doesn't like, reads:

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:{{Short description|Enthalpy taken up by oceans}}

:File:Ocean heat anomaly map 2020.jpg

:::::Ocean heat content (OHC) or ocean heat uptake (OHU) is the enthalpy absorbed by oceans, and is thus an important indicator of global warming.{{Cite journal |last1=Cheng |first1=Lijing |last2=Foster |first2=Grant |last3=Hausfather |first3=Zeke |last4=Trenberth |first4=Kevin E. |last5=Abraham |first5=John |date=2022 |title=Improved Quantification of the Rate of Ocean Warming |journal=Journal of Climate |volume=35 |issue=14 |pages=4827–4840 |bibcode=2022JCli...35.4827C |doi=10.1175/JCLI-D-21-0895.1 |doi-access=free }} Ocean heat content is calculated by measuring ocean temperature at many different locations and depths, and integrating the areal density of a change in enthalpic energy over an ocean basin or entire ocean.{{cite book|last=Dijkstra|first=Henk A.|title=Dynamical oceanography|year=2008|publisher=Springer Verlag|location=Berlin|isbn=9783540763758|page=276|edition=[Corr. 2nd print.]}} Despite being called heat content, “work and heat are not stored in a system. Each is a mode of transfer of energy from one system to another,”{{Cite journal |last1=Beretta |first1=G.P. |last2=E.P. Gyftopoulos |author-link2=Elias Gyftopoulos |year=2015 |title=What is heat? |url=https://gianpaolo-beretta.unibs.it/Beretta-papers-online/m49-BerettaGyftopoulos-JERT-137-021006-2015.pdf |journal=Journal of Energy Resources Technology |series=ASME |volume=137|issue=2 |doi=10.1115/1.4026382 }}. Historically, in the 19th century, the now obsolete notion “heat content” was used in thermodynamics for enthalpy and denoted by $H$, see the section about history and etymology of enthalpy, and see also the section [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ocean_heat_content&action=submit#Critics_and_possible_misunderstandings| Critics and possible misunderstandings].

:This wikipedia article

:* provides the present [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ocean_heat_content&action=submit#Definition| definition],

:* explains [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ocean_heat_content&action=submit#Measurements measurement methods],

:* discusses [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ocean_heat_content&action=submit#Causes_for_heat_uptake| causes for heat uptake] and

:* expected [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ocean_heat_content&action=submit#Impacts| impacts].

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:The problem seems not to be "unsourced technical detail" or the like, but just the issue, that some people lack basics of thermodynamics and do not know, that no system stores work or heat. Systems store energy (and mass). Heat is not a quantity associated to a state. The idea of an "amount of heat stored" was a point of view till the mid of 19th century, but meanwhile, physics knows, that such an amount does not exist and this point of view is obsolete. Heat is just some mode of energy transfer, associated to processes. That's basics in thermodynamics, but might come to some as a surprise.

:Ocean Heat Content (OHC) is an enthalpy (dependent on the context: per area, per volume, or total) and therefore a notion of energy.

:This is also clarified in the original articles about TEOS-10 , e.g. the official TEOS-10 manual, or in the wikipedia article Conservative temperature.

:--EinMathematikerInAustria (talk) 08:56, 21 June 2025 (UTC) EinMathematikerInAustria (talk) 08:56, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

::Let's please keep the discussion at Talk:Ocean heat content, rather than spreading it across multiple WikiProjects. Stepwise Continuous Dysfunction (talk) 16:32, 21 June 2025 (UTC)