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AARoads Wiki

Please join us over at the [https://wiki.aaroads.com/wiki/Main_Page AARoads Wiki]. We look forward to seeing you soon! Imzadi 1979 → 20:27, 12 September 2023 (UTC) {{User:ClueBot III/DoNotArchiveUntil|2009910459}}

:I sure hope that this project isn't shutting down. It would be unfortunate for us to cave to the opinions of non-content contributors at an RfC who probably don't even know how to read a map. Bneu2013 (talk) 02:16, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

:I've marked the page as per this. 20:59, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

:I just want to state for the record that I intend to continue maintenance of Washington articles as well as those I brought up to GA status in other states. I'm going to be contributing to both projects, albeit with less detail for roads articles on here. Sounder Bruce 04:27, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

:In reality there are two more alternative sites we can choose from - [https://justapedia.org Justapedia] and [https://encycla.com Encycla]. The former is a Wikipedia-like site that forked all contents from here last year and has lenient notability requirements. 5.181.21.208 (talk) 13:30, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Short descriptions

Another editor recently changed the short description of Pennsylvania Turnpike from {{blockquote|East–west toll highway}} to {{blockquote|East–west toll highway in Pennsylvania}}

This seemed unduly repetitive to me, so I reverted it, but he counter-reverted, noting that other state turnpike articles had the same issue, and, indeed, many other articles about roads.

When you start typing "Pennsylvania Turnpike" into the Wikipedia search box, you immediately get a drop-down menu of article titles, which soon includes "Pennsylvania Turnpike". After each title comes the article's short description. So "Pennsylvania Turnpike" is followed on the next line by "East-West toll highway in Pennsylvania". It is conspicuously silly, or at least it seems so to me, to specify "Pennsylvania" twice here.

In other articles I have edited, I have seen editors remove such redundancy. But, I am new to editing the state turnpikes. As the other editor, {{u|Red0ctober22}} suggested, I looked at other turnpike articles and indeed, the first few that I looked at have the same problem. I would mention, by the way, that there is no particular virtue in copying a mistake from one turnpike article to another.

WP:SHORTDESC starts with, {{blockquote|The short description of a Wikipedia page is a brief phrase intended to complement and clarify the page title, particularly in contexts where this is seen in isolation from the page itself.}} Obviously, the extra "in Pennsylvania" doesn't do anything to "complement" or "clarify". If the short description were ever to appear anywhere that the title doesn't appear, then the "in Pennsylvania" would supply necessary context; but I don't think it ever does, which is why the word "complement" appears several times in that policy article.

Also at the suggestion of that editor, I'm bringing the question to WT:USRD. Is there some consensus, which I could look up in some talk page, that the short descriptions of a Roads article should redundantly mention locations already given in the title of the article? Or is this just a bad habit? Bruce leverett (talk) 22:10, 3 May 2025 (UTC)