Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red#Indian naming conventions

I wanted to bring up the white background of the newsletter template not working with dark mode on Wikipedia. What can be done about that? Thanks. I just went and removed the white background for another template and it works fine without it being set like that. —DIYeditor (talk) 05:08, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

:Hi {{u|DIYeditor}}. Thanks for noticing the problem and fixing it! --Rosiestep (talk) 05:30, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

::Before I go poking around I wanted to make sure it is ok with everyone that I remove the forced white background. Does anyone know the location of that template offhand? —DIYeditor (talk) 22:59, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Hi {{u|DIYeditor}}. Can you provide a link to an example of the "newsletter" you refer to? Thanks. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 16:54, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

::::It's all over your talk page. —DIYeditor (talk) 00:02, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

::::: {{u|DIYeditor}}, I think WomenArtistUpdates means can you provide a link to "another template" that you removed the white background from?

::::: I haven't tried producing the WiR news letter, but the instructions are at Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Ideas#Basic overview of tasks using March 2024 as a guide. TSventon (talk) 00:35, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

{{ping|TSventon}} I don't see the newsletter mentioned specifically there. It's a about real world meetups and events as far as I can tell. Maybe these end up in the newsletter.

Basically this is being put on every WIR member's talk pages every month, and it is presumably being subst: from a template somewhere. I just need to find that template:

:== Women in Red January 2024 ==

:{| style="border: 5px solid #ABCDEF ; background-color: #FFFFFF;"

:...

It may be as simple as removing background-color: #FFFFFF; from the template. This is as far as I understand a basic part of implementing "dark mode" on Wikipedia. If it's a bot doing it from off Wikipedia, the bot needs to stop putting that white background. It's a significant accessibility issue. —DIYeditor (talk) 05:15, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

Ok I see that the newsletter is called "Outreach". It is genereated by the Wikipedia MassMessage facility. What you linked does relate to that. I'm not clear if there is a template or if the newsletter is simply being copied by hand on e.g. Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2024#March 2024 —DIYeditor (talk) 05:36, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

I've removed the background from the May 2025 version. —DIYeditor (talk) 05:42, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

• oh, the invitation! Thanks for removing the hard-coded background-color: #FFFFFF;. As you figured out, we create this month's invitation from last month's invitation, not a template (no subst:). If you've got May 2025 ADA compliant, it should be considered updated for invitations going forward. For those following at home - Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2025 and historical invitations are filed under the appropriate year. Thank you {{u|DIYeditor}} and {{u|TSventon}}. I don't have a way to test dark mode, so I am assuming it looks ok. There is no change on my screen. It look fine--WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 14:37, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
• :Super, thanks! Yeah, it should make no difference for those who already have a white background. —DIYeditor (talk) 17:23, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

May looks great. Thanks, all! Much easier on my eyes. —DIYeditor (talk) 13:14, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

The lost German film {{ill|Lilli – ein Mädchen aus der Großstadt|de}}, starring Ann Smyrner and featuring the character Bild Lilli, has recently been found and uploaded to YouTube in its entirety. The article about the film is available in German and Welsh, and now also in Spanish. Hopefully, someone will be encouraged to translate the article into English as well.--Peridotito (talk) 08:09, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|Peridotito}} unfortunately translating the de article into an article suitable for en Wikipedia will not be straightforward, as most of the de article does not have inline citations. The main author has died, so they can't assist. If you could add some citations to the es version, that would be a great help. TSventon (talk) 20:22, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

Apologies if this is not the place to ask, but any idea why Listeriabot hasn't updated :Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Writers - UK since October? I've tried manually summoning the bot, which hasn't worked. Starklinson (talk) 05:27, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|Starklinson}}, unfortunately Listeriabot not updating redlists is a longstanding problem, see a 2021 discussion. {{ping|MarioGom}} do you have any ideas? TSventon (talk) 13:54, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

::I proposed it to the Community Wishlist a couple of times iirc, unsuccessfully. There's really no good solution until someone fixes the bot or rewrites it from scratch. Removing any column referencing places like place of birth of death might help with some queries. It is ok to use them as filters in queries, but not as columns in tables. MarioGom (talk) 19:02, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

::It's been going on for a while; I made a template for the problem back in 2022: :Template:Listeria fail. The only thing that can be done is to reduce the amount of processing it takes to create the list. Try making the list more specific or limiting the amount of data it pulls by removing columns. Shorter lists generally work just fine. Gamaliel (talk) 19:33, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

:::I have split out the UK to 1927 and Listeria was able to run. TSventon (talk) 21:04, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

:::I expect part of the problem is that the size of Wikidata and Wikipedia has increased since 2018, so the bot has to work a lot harder to produce the same reports. TSventon (talk) 01:27, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

::::Last time I checked, it was a design issue in the bot. For each column, it would fetch every full entity into memory. Some entities like countries are huge. A column with many big entities will exhaust memory. MarioGom (talk) 21:41, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

:::::Presumably the design of the bot hasn't changed, but wikidata keeps getting bigger, meaning reports that could run 8 years ago are now more likely to fail. TSventon (talk) 05:32, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

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Hey just created my first article for this month Mitela Sumi Will appreciate help to expand this article :) Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 16:36, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

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I've been doing very little on wikipedia this year, as I've been concentrating on wikidata, adding women from 30 under-represented countries which together constitute 50% of world population. There were 35,500 women from these countries when I started, and now there are 10,000 more! I started working on this when I was vaguely appalled to find that women from this half of the world contituted only 0.83% of wikidata bios with country and gender assigned. I'm proud to announce that this is now 1.01%, so I've hit the 1% target I set myself :)

This means that I've expanded the following WiR redlinks pages: Afghanistan, Angola, Bangladesh, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Central African Republic, Chad, China, DRC, Ethiopia, India, Laos, Libya, Madagascar, Malawi, Mauritania, Mosambique, Myanmar, Niger, Pakistan, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Tajikistan, Tanzania, Turkmenistan, Vietnam, and Yemen. I'd love it if these countries got some special WiR love. (Basically there are three equally sized population blocs here: China, India, and the rest.)

One of the countries I've worked on is Malawi. So one unexpected & lovely side-effect was learning of User:Victuallers's efforts to improve wikipedia representation of women there. He's looking to engage off-wiki partners in this. A '50-50 campaign' across Africa (setting explicit 50:50 targets for public decision-makers as part of various protocol agreements) initially arose from Malawian grassroots campaigners. The timescale for that has been pushed back, but it's had visible effects. Maybe Malawi can be similarly exemplary when it comes to wikipedia representation!

This has been a bit of an obsessive slog, but I'm very pleased it's been possible to make a visible difference. Hope others here find it encouraging! Dsp13 (talk) 08:24, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

:Dsp13, are there WP:RS to establish the notability of the women you are adding to Wikidata? If there are not, it won't be possible to write en Wikipedia articles on them. And if the RS are offline or paywalled it will be difficult. If there are resources for writing women's biographies in your target countries, they could be added to Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Resources. TSventon (talk) 10:42, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

::Not all will meet en.WP notability standards, but many will. For example, plenty of national MPs and even government ministers weren't already in Wikidata (and aren't yet in en.WP). They usually have newspaper coverage in the country they're in. I'll have a think as to whether there are specific resources I could add. Thanks for the suggestion, Dsp13 (talk) 11:14, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

::: The redlist quality of the additions to Malawi's redlist vary, these are all WIR candidates although some do not have enough notability to survive on en:wiki (there are 2 other languages!). However some of the finds have the kind of notability you might be surprised to find in a missing woman on Wikipedia. One recent addition for Malawi was Ivy Kamanga a supreme court judge which is pretty notable but she was the only woman on a panel who overturned a presidential election!! They wore bullet proof vests to announce their findings. The judges won an international prize and were lauded in the UK parliament. She's one of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Victuallers/100_women#Paper_at_Wikimania,_Who_are_the_100_Women_in_Red? the "100 WIR Women" list] I'm curating and I'm hoping that WIR will give Malawi an extra push to 50:50 parity on en:wiki, Chichewe:wiki and tum:wiki. In preparation we are [https://www.scotland-malawipartnership.org/news/the-smp-are-changing-their-image-licensing making some non:notable headlines] as we gather partners to assist. When we started there were less than 100 Malawians on the WIR redlist. Since then that number should have gone down as we have increased the number of articles about Malawian women by 10%.... but actually it has ~quadrupled. Dsp13 has pushed the redlist up to c:350 Malawian women in Red. It's probably going to take a while to get this project ready as there are (ambitious?) plans to gather more external partners in addition to WIR, WMUK and the Scotland Malawi Partnership charity. Any more interest here? Victuallers (talk) 14:43, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

::::CONGRATULATIONS @Dsp13 this is such a fantastic undertaking! I'd defnitely noticed that some WD lists I was looking at regularly were expanding, this is so cool! Even if they're not EN notable, their presence undoubtedly enhances knowledge on the internet more broadly, and significantly connnects these women into the web of knowledge. @Victuallers I'd be happy to help out later in the year with the Malawi project. Lajmmoore (talk) 15:00, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

I've just come across Ellen E. Jones - film and tv journalist, much cited in en.wiki, and a nominating [https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0027bny guest] on Great Lives. Might be interesting for someone to create, but I mustn't fall down that rabbit-hole - have spent much of the morning on a "J" novelist already (as well as spending ages retrieving old work when a non-WiR article I'd invested effort in was deleted, along with its incoming redirects etc, because it had originally been created by a now-blocked sock: annoying!) PamD 13:43, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

This playwright (real name?) and their work seem interesting. Is there coverage of them and or their works? FloridaArmy (talk) 19:38, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Hey, I just created an article on Achumla Jingrü, a Naga singer from Nagaland. Would appreciate help on the article. Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 01:45, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Dr. Lulu Gaiser - the first female hired by McMaster University. Any help to preserve this amazing women would be grateful as lots of her history has been buried or hidden.

https://mcrew.ca/resource/celebrating-mcmaster-universitys-forgotten-trailblazer-lulu-gaiser-to-be-honoured-on-international-womens-day/ - her recognized on International Women's Day 163.182.216.241 (talk) 07:13, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi all, after seeing some NWSL teams organise to improve photos and statistics of their players on Wikipedia through edit-athons a while back, I was thinking of ways we could implement something similar for other women's football teams. Those NWSL teams licensing photos for Commons made that side of it nice and simple, and Commons photos was the main hurdle I was brainstorming ways to overcome. Finding Wikipedia photographers to travel around countries going to different games every week to take photos of players who might not even be there seemed like asking too much, and then I remembered (of course)... tournaments.

It's probably too late in the day to do anything for the Women's Euro in Switzerland in a few months, but if we were to come up with a ranking of which women's national teams most need new photos, and recruited Brazil-based Wikipedia users (i.e. the next Women's World Cup), a request for photography credentials could be made to FIFA for this. I know Wikipedia/Wikimedia has collaborated in the past to send photographers to football teams (for example, Germany will probably not be a priority), but I don't know who organised any of it! Any ideas (even if you think it's too ambitious)? Kingsif (talk) 22:33, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:Thanks for bringing this up, {{u|Kingsif}}, and it's not too ambitious. More and more people (including me) are joining the ranks of WikiPortraits to cover all types of events (sports, literature, film, and more) around the world. For more info, connect with {{u|Jenny8lee}}, WikiPortraits' Editor-in-Chief. --Rosiestep (talk) 09:56, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

::Thanks for this! Kingsif (talk) 13:54, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

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Hello all, I've just expanded Rivals (novel) but really struggled to find reviews from 1988 when it was published. I used the British Newspaper Archive, but found barely any. It was hugely popular, so there must be more. Any tips on finding them very welcome. There's a lot of online articles about the 2024 series, but I'd really like to include earlier reviews, before I nominate for GA. Many thanks (& apologies for cross-posting at Women Writers) Lajmmoore (talk) 14:11, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

: Here are a couple from Canadian newspapers. Penny Richards (talk) 14:22, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

::[https://www.newspapers.com/article/telegraph-journal-show-jumping-and-scand/172553128/ "Show jumping and scandalous diversions"]

::[https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-province-are-we-ready-for-jillys-ri/172553295/ "Are we ready for Jilly's Rivals?"]

:::Penny Richards, they are from newspapers.com, was that all you could find there? TSventon (talk) 14:50, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

:::No, there might have been others; I didn't look much further (in the middle of other things right now). Penny Richards (talk) 15:05, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

:There is a Times review from 1988 accessible via Gale in the Wikipedia library

::Bouncers at the Empire, Author:Andrew Sinclair Publication:The Times London, England Thursday, June 2, 1988 Issue 63097 page 21 TSventon (talk) 14:34, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

:The back cover of the paperback at archive.org [https://archive.org/details/rivals0000coop_o5s9/page/720/mode/2up here] quotes press reviews on the back cover, which can be seen without borrowing the book. Obviously they are selective and should be verified. TSventon (talk) 15:09, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

:Thanks @Penny Richards & @TSventon - this prompted me to work out that my newspapers.com subscription had a) lapsed and b) access was in an unfamiliar bit of WL. I've added all three now Lajmmoore (talk) 15:24, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

:Here's some more I found from that time period.

:* [https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-guardian-figureless-in-a-landscape-b/172557825/ Figureless in a landscape by Norman Shrapnel]

:* [https://www.newspapers.com/article/sunday-telegraph-royal-baby-shouldnt-hi/172553199/ Royal baby shouldn't hit the bottle/Mary Kenny] (Looks like Penny Richards clipped this one, but might have missed linking it here)

:* [https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-gloucestershire-echo-jillys-silent/172557660/ Jilly's silent over row]

:* [https://www.newspapers.com/article/cheltenham-news-news-in-brief/172557767/ News in brief]

:Hope that helps! Silverseren^C 15:39, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

::Brilliant, thank you so much @Silver seren really appreciated Lajmmoore (talk) 15:55, 17 May 2025 (UTC)