Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red#New draft: Jane Skripnik

Apologies if this is not the place to ask, but any idea why Listeriabot hasn't updated :Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Writers - UK since October? I've tried manually summoning the bot, which hasn't worked. Starklinson (talk) 05:27, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|Starklinson}}, unfortunately Listeriabot not updating redlists is a longstanding problem, see a 2021 discussion. {{ping|MarioGom}} do you have any ideas? TSventon (talk) 13:54, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

::I proposed it to the Community Wishlist a couple of times iirc, unsuccessfully. There's really no good solution until someone fixes the bot or rewrites it from scratch. Removing any column referencing places like place of birth of death might help with some queries. It is ok to use them as filters in queries, but not as columns in tables. MarioGom (talk) 19:02, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

::It's been going on for a while; I made a template for the problem back in 2022: :Template:Listeria fail. The only thing that can be done is to reduce the amount of processing it takes to create the list. Try making the list more specific or limiting the amount of data it pulls by removing columns. Shorter lists generally work just fine. Gamaliel (talk) 19:33, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

:::I have split out the UK to 1927 and Listeria was able to run. TSventon (talk) 21:04, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

:::I expect part of the problem is that the size of Wikidata and Wikipedia has increased since 2018, so the bot has to work a lot harder to produce the same reports. TSventon (talk) 01:27, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

::::Last time I checked, it was a design issue in the bot. For each column, it would fetch every full entity into memory. Some entities like countries are huge. A column with many big entities will exhaust memory. MarioGom (talk) 21:41, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

:::::Presumably the design of the bot hasn't changed, but wikidata keeps getting bigger, meaning reports that could run 8 years ago are now more likely to fail. TSventon (talk) 05:32, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

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I've been doing very little on wikipedia this year, as I've been concentrating on wikidata, adding women from 30 under-represented countries which together constitute 50% of world population. There were 35,500 women from these countries when I started, and now there are 10,000 more! I started working on this when I was vaguely appalled to find that women from this half of the world contituted only 0.83% of wikidata bios with country and gender assigned. I'm proud to announce that this is now 1.01%, so I've hit the 1% target I set myself :)

This means that I've expanded the following WiR redlinks pages: Afghanistan, Angola, Bangladesh, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cambodia, Central African Republic, Chad, China, DRC, Ethiopia, India, Laos, Libya, Madagascar, Malawi, Mauritania, Mosambique, Myanmar, Niger, Pakistan, Sierra Leone, Somalia, South Sudan, Sudan, Tajikistan, Tanzania, Turkmenistan, Vietnam, and Yemen. I'd love it if these countries got some special WiR love. (Basically there are three equally sized population blocs here: China, India, and the rest.)

One of the countries I've worked on is Malawi. So one unexpected & lovely side-effect was learning of User:Victuallers's efforts to improve wikipedia representation of women there. He's looking to engage off-wiki partners in this. A '50-50 campaign' across Africa (setting explicit 50:50 targets for public decision-makers as part of various protocol agreements) initially arose from Malawian grassroots campaigners. The timescale for that has been pushed back, but it's had visible effects. Maybe Malawi can be similarly exemplary when it comes to wikipedia representation!

This has been a bit of an obsessive slog, but I'm very pleased it's been possible to make a visible difference. Hope others here find it encouraging! Dsp13 (talk) 08:24, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

:Dsp13, are there WP:RS to establish the notability of the women you are adding to Wikidata? If there are not, it won't be possible to write en Wikipedia articles on them. And if the RS are offline or paywalled it will be difficult. If there are resources for writing women's biographies in your target countries, they could be added to Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Resources. TSventon (talk) 10:42, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

::Not all will meet en.WP notability standards, but many will. For example, plenty of national MPs and even government ministers weren't already in Wikidata (and aren't yet in en.WP). They usually have newspaper coverage in the country they're in. I'll have a think as to whether there are specific resources I could add. Thanks for the suggestion, Dsp13 (talk) 11:14, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

::: The redlist quality of the additions to Malawi's redlist vary, these are all WIR candidates although some do not have enough notability to survive on en:wiki (there are 2 other languages!). However some of the finds have the kind of notability you might be surprised to find in a missing woman on Wikipedia. One recent addition for Malawi was Ivy Kamanga a supreme court judge which is pretty notable but she was the only woman on a panel who overturned a presidential election!! They wore bullet proof vests to announce their findings. The judges won an international prize and were lauded in the UK parliament. She's one of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Victuallers/100_women#Paper_at_Wikimania,_Who_are_the_100_Women_in_Red? the "100 WIR Women" list] I'm curating and I'm hoping that WIR will give Malawi an extra push to 50:50 parity on en:wiki, Chichewe:wiki and tum:wiki. In preparation we are [https://www.scotland-malawipartnership.org/news/the-smp-are-changing-their-image-licensing making some non:notable headlines] as we gather partners to assist. When we started there were less than 100 Malawians on the WIR redlist. Since then that number should have gone down as we have increased the number of articles about Malawian women by 10%.... but actually it has ~quadrupled. Dsp13 has pushed the redlist up to c:350 Malawian women in Red. It's probably going to take a while to get this project ready as there are (ambitious?) plans to gather more external partners in addition to WIR, WMUK and the Scotland Malawi Partnership charity. Any more interest here? Victuallers (talk) 14:43, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

::::CONGRATULATIONS @Dsp13 this is such a fantastic undertaking! I'd defnitely noticed that some WD lists I was looking at regularly were expanding, this is so cool! Even if they're not EN notable, their presence undoubtedly enhances knowledge on the internet more broadly, and significantly connnects these women into the web of knowledge. @Victuallers I'd be happy to help out later in the year with the Malawi project. Lajmmoore (talk) 15:00, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

I've just come across Ellen E. Jones - film and tv journalist, much cited in en.wiki, and a nominating [https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0027bny guest] on Great Lives. Might be interesting for someone to create, but I mustn't fall down that rabbit-hole - have spent much of the morning on a "J" novelist already (as well as spending ages retrieving old work when a non-WiR article I'd invested effort in was deleted, along with its incoming redirects etc, because it had originally been created by a now-blocked sock: annoying!) PamD 13:43, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

This playwright (real name?) and their work seem interesting. Is there coverage of them and or their works? FloridaArmy (talk) 19:38, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Hey, I just created an article on Achumla Jingrü, a Naga singer from Nagaland. Would appreciate help on the article. Flyingphoenixchips (talk) 01:45, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

Dr. Lulu Gaiser - the first female hired by McMaster University. Any help to preserve this amazing women would be grateful as lots of her history has been buried or hidden.

https://mcrew.ca/resource/celebrating-mcmaster-universitys-forgotten-trailblazer-lulu-gaiser-to-be-honoured-on-international-womens-day/ - her recognized on International Women's Day 163.182.216.241 (talk) 07:13, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi all, after seeing some NWSL teams organise to improve photos and statistics of their players on Wikipedia through edit-athons a while back, I was thinking of ways we could implement something similar for other women's football teams. Those NWSL teams licensing photos for Commons made that side of it nice and simple, and Commons photos was the main hurdle I was brainstorming ways to overcome. Finding Wikipedia photographers to travel around countries going to different games every week to take photos of players who might not even be there seemed like asking too much, and then I remembered (of course)... tournaments.

It's probably too late in the day to do anything for the Women's Euro in Switzerland in a few months, but if we were to come up with a ranking of which women's national teams most need new photos, and recruited Brazil-based Wikipedia users (i.e. the next Women's World Cup), a request for photography credentials could be made to FIFA for this. I know Wikipedia/Wikimedia has collaborated in the past to send photographers to football teams (for example, Germany will probably not be a priority), but I don't know who organised any of it! Any ideas (even if you think it's too ambitious)? Kingsif (talk) 22:33, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

:Thanks for bringing this up, {{u|Kingsif}}, and it's not too ambitious. More and more people (including me) are joining the ranks of WikiPortraits to cover all types of events (sports, literature, film, and more) around the world. For more info, connect with {{u|Jenny8lee}}, WikiPortraits' Editor-in-Chief. --Rosiestep (talk) 09:56, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

::Thanks for this! Kingsif (talk) 13:54, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

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Hello all, I've just expanded Rivals (novel) but really struggled to find reviews from 1988 when it was published. I used the British Newspaper Archive, but found barely any. It was hugely popular, so there must be more. Any tips on finding them very welcome. There's a lot of online articles about the 2024 series, but I'd really like to include earlier reviews, before I nominate for GA. Many thanks (& apologies for cross-posting at Women Writers) Lajmmoore (talk) 14:11, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

: Here are a couple from Canadian newspapers. Penny Richards (talk) 14:22, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

::[https://www.newspapers.com/article/telegraph-journal-show-jumping-and-scand/172553128/ "Show jumping and scandalous diversions"]

::[https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-province-are-we-ready-for-jillys-ri/172553295/ "Are we ready for Jilly's Rivals?"]

:::Penny Richards, they are from newspapers.com, was that all you could find there? TSventon (talk) 14:50, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

:::No, there might have been others; I didn't look much further (in the middle of other things right now). Penny Richards (talk) 15:05, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

:There is a Times review from 1988 accessible via Gale in the Wikipedia library

::Bouncers at the Empire, Author:Andrew Sinclair Publication:The Times London, England Thursday, June 2, 1988 Issue 63097 page 21 TSventon (talk) 14:34, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

:The back cover of the paperback at archive.org [https://archive.org/details/rivals0000coop_o5s9/page/720/mode/2up here] quotes press reviews on the back cover, which can be seen without borrowing the book. Obviously they are selective and should be verified. TSventon (talk) 15:09, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

:Thanks @Penny Richards & @TSventon - this prompted me to work out that my newspapers.com subscription had a) lapsed and b) access was in an unfamiliar bit of WL. I've added all three now Lajmmoore (talk) 15:24, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

:Here's some more I found from that time period.

:* [https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-guardian-figureless-in-a-landscape-b/172557825/ Figureless in a landscape by Norman Shrapnel]

:* [https://www.newspapers.com/article/sunday-telegraph-royal-baby-shouldnt-hi/172553199/ Royal baby shouldn't hit the bottle/Mary Kenny] (Looks like Penny Richards clipped this one, but might have missed linking it here)

:* [https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-gloucestershire-echo-jillys-silent/172557660/ Jilly's silent over row]

:* [https://www.newspapers.com/article/cheltenham-news-news-in-brief/172557767/ News in brief]

:Hope that helps! Silverseren^C 15:39, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

::Brilliant, thank you so much @Silver seren really appreciated Lajmmoore (talk) 15:55, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello all,

We are currently working on a project that aims to explore the use of paid media to raise awareness about contributing knowledge to Wikipedia — with a particular focus on encouraging new editors, especially women, to get involved.

In the next phase of this project, we will be distributing various forms of paid media. As a result, you may notice increased activity on Wikimedia projects, such as the creation of new accounts, higher page views, or more edits on certain articles.

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https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Addressing_Wikipedia%E2%80%99s_Gender_Gaps_Through_Social_Media_Ads Rehamaltamime (talk) 10:35, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

:It might have been nice to contact the relevant project prior to the application for the research grant. Will the ads drive people specifically to Women in Red? Is the project targeting just English Wikipedia, or other language Wikipedias? What will the adverts look like? Who are the demographic segments that are being targeted? I read [https://openreview.net/pdf?id=ItkQw9i8sl the proposal] and hopefully we will be able to welcome new editors as a result (although I am concerned the proposal doesn't seem to address the intersectional pressures that are barriers to many women editing) Lajmmoore (talk) 13:11, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

::?? The person listed as the contact Reham Al Tamime has made 4 edits on English Wikipedia three of the without edit summaries. A $30,000 grant for a very ill conceived idea. I am baffled. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 15:10, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

::It's being running nearly a year, and has 6 weeks to go. You have to keep an eye on Wikimedia Research, which exists on its own well-funded planet. But since the two researchers are from Qatari & German universities, I imagine it doesn't especially target en:wp, let alone this project (which I rather suspect the researchers have only just heard of, hence the message). People can brace themselves for a flood of new editors, or not. Johnbod (talk) 16:16, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

::::: Ads to complete a survey on LinkedIn, Google, Tumblr, Reddit, and Twitter [sic]. I'm thinking ",or not". --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 23:29, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

:::For transparency, several months ago, WMF Research Department referred me to this research team. I participated in a Zoom call with the researchers, heard about their proposed study, and I posed several questions for their team to consider.

:::{{u|Rehamaltamime}}, is Women in Red mentioned in any of the materials that people will see through your social media ad campaign? If yes, how so? Thank you. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:53, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello Women in Red editors,

I’m working on a new article draft for Ana de Portela, a Tejano interdisciplinary artist, writer, and performer. Her work spans sculpture, drawing, and narrative installation, often rooted in ritual, cultural memory, and underrepresented histories.

She has exhibited internationally — including at Palais des Beaux-Arts (Bozar) in Brussels, The Drawing Center in New York — and her work is included in the collection of MoMA. Her archival papers are part of the Harald Szeemann Collection at the Getty Research Institute. I believe her contributions meet notability criteria and would add to representation of Latina and interdisciplinary artists on Wikipedia.

The draft is available here in my sandbox: User:Portelart/sandbox

I would be grateful for any feedback on improving the structure, sourcing, or moving toward article creation. Thank you for all the work you do to close the gender gap on Wikipedia.

Warm regards,

Portelart (talk) 17:08, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

:{{ping|Portelart}} the sandbox link doesn't work, can you check it? TSventon (talk) 17:23, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

::{{u|TSventon}} - From [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Portelart this], it appears that the editing hasn't taken place on-wiki.

::Also noting that the editor's username "Portelart" and the article they wish to draft "Ana de Portela" share overlap -- potentially an autobiography or a single-purpose account. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:41, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

:::No idea if she would reach notability requirements, but I can state that she does appear to have at least some coverage. Such as a closing paragraph on her work [https://www.dallasobserver.com/arts/planet-of-the-apes-6394751 here] in the Dallas Observer. Silverseren^C 17:45, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

::::See also conversation continuation here. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:10, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::The sandbox was published at 18:26, 18 May 2025, but does not provide any sources. TSventon (talk) 07:45, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

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[https://wikiedu.org/blog/2025/05/21/announcing-impact-visualizer-1-0/ This announcement] by WikiEdu Foundation may interest some of you as the new tool measures the improvement of articles over time within a specific category. The example used in the announcement is women's biographies, specifically women geologists. -- Rosiestep (talk) 17:06, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

File:Humanium spinning top by Foreverspin.jpg

In preparation for Women in Red's 10th Anniversary on 18 July, we discussed here (a while ago), which articles to include in the Top 100. While several were nominated, it wasn't an especially methodical process, so I'm going to suggest some alternatives for your consideration, which wouldn't include voting, or even active participation by an editor on this talkpage.

• Potential option 1: One article from each event page through July 2025. In July, we'll be on events #341 and #342, so that would be Top 342 articles (not Top 100). From the Outcomes section of each Event page, we pick the article that meets the criteria we agree upon.
• Potential option 2: One article for each month of our existence (that'll be 121 months in July 2025), Top 121 articles, per the articles on the lists on the Metrics page, Again, the articles would meet the criteria that we've agreed upon.

The benefit of this option is that it would be more representative as some editors create women's biographies that are included in our metrics, but the article didn't get added to an Event's Outcomes section. A potential downside of this option is that there are many more articles, so picking a "middle one" each month, if that's the preferred way to go, would require more work.

• Potential option 3: making a suggestion
• Potential criteria: first new article on each list?, last one?, middle one?, tenth one? (e.g., in honor of our 10th anniversary), only biographies?, all articles on each list are viable? photo required? something else?

This compilation will require some effort, and some double-checking, so making a decision sooner rather than later would be good. Also, keep in mind ... Soon, folks who submitted proposals to Wikimania 2025's Programming Committee will find out which ones were accepted/declined. {{u|Victuallers}} submitted the Women in Red proposal so he'll be the first to know if we're successful. If we are, the list that we decide on here could be included in our presentation's slidedeck (this is why I am suggesting the photo criteria). --Rosiestep (talk) 23:01, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

:[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Victuallers/100_women#Paper_at_Wikimania,_Who_are_the_100_Women_in_Red? I've been working on it Rosie]. I aimed for 100 most interesting. It includes the suggestions made by a few editors (including you) and more are welcome. I paired up each woman with a larger article. Victuallers (talk) 23:11, 22 May 2025 (UTC)