talk:TVXQ#Regarding romanization of the members' names and other random stuff

The page seems to have a large number of bad citations. Commonly used sites for referencing korean pop culture pages that actually not in line with Wikipedia's standards are listed here Wikipedia:WikiProject Korea/Reliable sources. Blog sites, gossip sites, fansites can not be used for sourcing information. For this page that means editors need to remove any citations to articles from allkpop, soompi, koreaboo. Probably more of the links are breaking other standards but these were the obvious ones I found. Peachywink (talk) 01:42, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

: As an addition to this, if the blog sites mention reliable sources, they should be dug up to replace those citations. Hopefully that will improve the article. -AngusWOOF (talk) 17:17, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

{{ping|Peachywink|AngusWOOF}} I think we agreed previously on the project page that not every article from Akp or soompi is bad to use. Let's not be ridiculous with this. Where do you get pop news if not from entertainment websites. We are sourcing popular culture here, things like concert dates and album names, and Tv appearances, not scientific arguments of medicine discoveries, for God's sake. Teemeah ^{편지 (letter)} 19:31, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

: No worries. I'm using MWave and other entertainment sites. That they are massively popular should help the cause. -AngusWOOF (talk) 01:05, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

::I' will say that Teemeah is right that in talk on Wikipedia:WikiProject Korea/Reliable sources we generally decided to allow blog news sites, (though we didn't make note of it on the page), to be sources for certain things like the annual MAMA's awards or hard sales numbers but if you can find better I would say use that instead. I personally have seen allkpop mistranslate an article or use the wrong members name. So maybe it would be better to track down the article they sourced if there is one listed. Lastly...I don't think it was agreed upon in talk that these sorts of sources could be used for tv appearaces...unless again we are talking about awards shows, or winning on a weekly music show. Peachywink (talk) 03:50, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

::: I've cleaned up the rest of the allkpop and soompi refs. The only one left is the claim that "Why? (Keep Your Head Down)" set a record of most number-ones in Japan by a foreign artist. Need a RS for that, but that's a singular "better source" tag instead of having to tag the entire article for unreliable. -AngusWOOF (talk) 22:05, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

:::: Here's the article in question. [http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/84379/full/] I've tagged it for verify source as it needs someone who can read the Japanese to see if what was written in the wikipedia article matches what was said. -AngusWOOF (talk) 16:45, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

:::::Since wikiproject japan monitors the page as well maybe there is someone there that could help? EDIT: I decided to click some links randomly to check the source section out now and hit some problems. I founds some dead links, like at least 3 but they sort of got jumbled up and I can't figure out which they were. I'll go back through one by one and tag once I have time. Also what is link 223? Peachywink (talk) 14:04, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

:::::: Link 223 was an Online Ticket Request System thing with a formal query to Guinness World Records about the legitimacy of the fan club record, and Guinness wrote back saying it was not a record they keep. I've added "registration required" tag to it since it requires registration to view it in that OTRS system. You can see the archive page [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:TVXQ/Archive_1] (near the bottom) for a copy of the query and the response. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:53, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

:::::::Cool! I just had never seen that type of source before and it was so mysterious looking, lol.Peachywink (talk) 04:39, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

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Could people contribute some pictures to this page as the infobox pic is the only one.--EnderAtreides117 (talk) 03:25, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

:I added an older picture from Commons. Random86 (talk) 05:44, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

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