Bad English

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{{About|the band|other uses|Broken English (disambiguation)|and|Bad English (disambiguation)}}

{{short description|American rock band}}

{{Infobox musical artist

| name = Bad English

| image = Bad English.jpg

| caption = Bad English, clockwise L-to-R: Neal Schon, Deen Castronovo, Ricky Phillips, Jonathan Cain, and John Waite

| image_size =

| origin = Los Angeles, California, U.S.

| instrument =

| genre = {{hlist||Hard rock{{Cite web |title=Bad English | Biography, Albums, Streaming Links |url=https://www.allmusic.com/artist/bad-english-mn0000077264 |access-date=October 31, 2019 |website=AllMusic}}|arena rock{{Cite web |last=Everley |first=Dave |date=2017-07-17 |title=Bad English - Bad English album review |url=https://www.loudersound.com/reviews/bad-english-bad-english-album-review |access-date=2023-07-30 |website=Louder}}|{{nowrap|glam metal{{Cite book |last=Popoff |first=Martin |url=https://www.worldcat.org/oclc/858901054 |title=The big book of hair metal: the illustrated oral history of heavy metal's debauched decade |date=August 15, 2014 |isbn=978-0-7603-4546-7 |location=Minneapolis, MN |pages=171, 209 |oclc=858901054 |access-date=March 10, 2021}}}}}}

| years_active = 1987–1991

| label = Epic

| spinoff_of = {{hlist|The Babys|Journey}}

| past_members = John Waite
Neal Schon
Jonathan Cain
Ricky Phillips
Deen Castronovo

}}

Bad English was an American/British hard rock supergroup formed in 1987. It reunited Journey keyboardist Jonathan Cain with singer John Waite and bassist Ricky Phillips, his former bandmates in the Babys, along with Journey guitarist Neal Schon and drummer Deen Castronovo. The band is known for their hit single "When I See You Smile", which peaked at number 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 in November 1989.{{Cite magazine |title=Hot 100 |url=https://www.billboard.com/music/bad-english/chart-history |access-date=March 16, 2021 |magazine=Billboard}}

History

The members decided on a name for the band while playing pool. John Waite missed a shot and Jonathan Cain made a comment on how bad his "{{Cuegloss|English|english}}" was (referring to the spin a player puts on the cue ball), and the band decided to use the phrase.{{cite web| url= http://library.thinkquest.org/4626/rock.htm |title= Rock Band Name Origins at WHAT'S IN A NAME| website= thinkquest.org| archiveurl= https://web.archive.org/web/20060831050940/http://library.thinkquest.org/4626/rock.htm |archivedate=August 31, 2006 |publisher= | first= | last= | date= | access-date= }}

Jonathan Cain and guitarist Neal Schon, members of the successful rock band Journey, formed Bad English with Waite after Journey disbanded.{{cite news| url= http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=LA&p_theme=la&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EF5B9CC38A9C208&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM |title= A Rousing Reception for Bad English| work=Daily News of Los Angeles| date= January 29, 1990| via= newsbank.com| access-date= }} They were joined by Ricky Phillips, who had played bass for the Babys on two albums with Waite and Cain, and drummer Deen Castronovo.

= [[Bad English (album)|First album]] =

The band's first album, Bad English, was a big seller. It contained three top-40 hit singles: the number one hit "When I See You Smile", the top 10 hit "Price of Love", and "Possession".

The album's first single, however, was "Forget Me Not". It stalled outside the top 40 at number 45, but the single peaked at number 2 on the Mainstream Rock chart. The second single, "When I See You Smile", was their biggest hit, peaking at number 1 on the Hot 100. The song is also notable for being one of only two songs (the other being "Don't Walk Away") to be entirely written by an outside writer without help from at least one member of the band.{{Cite web |last=Giles |first=Jeff |date=June 26, 2015 |title=How Journey and The Babys Alumni Rose and Fell in Bad English |url=https://ultimateclassicrock.com/bad-english/ |access-date=March 16, 2021 |website=Ultimate Classic Rock |publisher= |language=en}} "Best of What I Got" was released as a promotional single to Rock Radio, where the tune cracked the top 10.

From March to June 1990, the band toured across the US with Whitesnake in support of the album.{{Cite web |date=July 4, 2008 |title=Life Story of John Waite – Bad English| url= http://www.johnwaite.com/lifestory/badenglish.htm |archiveurl= https://web.archive.org/web/20080704075015/http://www.johnwaite.com/lifestory/badenglish.htm|archivedate= July 4, 2008 |access-date=March 16, 2021 |website= johnwaite.com| publisher= }}

= [[Backlash (Bad English album)|Second album]] =

The band's second album, Backlash, came and went without any fanfare. The only single, "Straight to Your Heart", missed the top 40, peaking at number 42. Ricky Phillips writes on his website that the group had parted company before the second album had been mixed. Both Phillips and guitarist Neal Schon expressed frustration with the "pop" side of the band's music and wanted a harder edge. In the end, it proved to be the band's undoing as everyone left to pursue other projects.

= Breakup =

In later interviews, Waite revealed that although he loved playing to stadium-sized audiences, he was uncomfortable with the corporate rock image that he felt the band had presented. He returned to working as a solo artist. Schon and Castronovo joined the fledgling rock band Hardline in 1991; however, both would leave the group not long after the release of its debut album, with Schon pursuing other projects and Castronovo joining Ozzy Osbourne's band. In the mid-1990s, Schon rejoined Cain, who had released two solo albums in the interim, in a reformed Journey. Castronovo also joined Journey in 1998, eventually leaving in 2015. He later became a member of the Dead Daisies and Revolution Saints before returning to Journey in 2021. Meanwhile, Phillips returned to session work, recording with artists such as Coverdale/Page, Bobby Kimball and Eddie Money before joining Styx in the early 2000s.

Band members

Discography

= Studio albums =

class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;"
rowspan="2"| Year

! rowspan="2"| Album details

! colspan="6"| Peak chart positions

! rowspan="2"| Certifications
(sales threshold)

style="font-size:smaller;"

! width="30"| US
{{Cite magazine |title=Billboard 200 |url=https://www.billboard.com/artist/bad-english/chart-history/tlp/ |access-date=March 16, 2021 |magazine=Billboard}}

! width="30"| AUS
{{Cite web |title=australian-charts.com – Australian charts portal |url=http://www.australian-charts.com/search.asp?cat=a&search=Bad+English |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121011205338/http://www.australian-charts.com/search.asp?cat=a&search=Bad+English |archive-date=October 11, 2012 |access-date=January 23, 2010 |publisher=australian-charts.com}}{{cite web|url=https://www.bubblingdownunder.com/2022/10/week-commencing-14-october-1991.html| title=Bubbling Down Under Week Commencing October 14, 1991|website=Bubbling Down Under|access-date=October 14, 2022}}

! width="30"| CAN
{{Cite web |title=Results – RPM – Library and Archives Canada: Top Albums/CDs |url=http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/rpm/028020-110.01-e.php?PHPSESSID=lq498cep6giiqq58vjqcsvvs20&q1=Bad+English&q2=Top+Albums%2FCDs&interval=20 |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121017235408/http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/rpm/028020-110.01-e.php?PHPSESSID=lq498cep6giiqq58vjqcsvvs20&q1=Bad+English&q2=Top+Albums%2FCDs&interval=20 |archive-date=October 17, 2012 |access-date=August 11, 2010 |publisher=RPM}}

! width="30"| SWE
{{Cite web |title=swedishcharts.com – Swedish charts portal |url=http://swedishcharts.com/search.asp?cat=a&search=bad+english |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121024114142/http://swedishcharts.com/search.asp?cat=a&search=bad+english |archive-date=October 24, 2012 |access-date=January 23, 2010 |publisher=swedishcharts.com}}

! width="30"| SWI
{{Cite web |title=hitparade.ch – Swiss charts portal |url=http://hitparade.ch/search.asp?search=bad+english&cat=a |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121110203036/http://hitparade.ch/search.asp?search=bad+english&cat=a |archive-date=November 10, 2012 |access-date=January 23, 2010 |publisher=hitparde.ch}}

! width="30"| UK
{{Cite web |title=Bad English – Full Official Chart History |url=http://www.officialcharts.com/artist/25808/bad-english/ |access-date=January 20, 2016 |website=Official Charts Company }}

1989

| align="left"| Bad English

| 21

| 12

| 34

| 39

| —

| 74

| align="left"|

  • US: Platinum{{Cite web |title=Gold & Platinum |url=https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/ |access-date=March 16, 2021 |website=RIAA |language=en-US}}
  • CAN: Gold{{Cite web |title=Canadian Recording Industry Association (CRIA): Gold & Platinum |url=http://www.musiccanada.com/GPSearchResult.aspx?st=bad&ica=False&sa=english&sl=&smt=0&sat=-1&ssb=Artist |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://archive.today/20130721100602/http://www.musiccanada.com/GPSearchResult.aspx?st=bad&ica=False&sa=english&sl=&smt=0&sat=-1&ssb=Artist |archive-date=July 21, 2013 |access-date=July 21, 2013 |publisher=Music Canada}}
1991

| align="left"| Backlash

  • Release date: August 1991
  • Label: Epic Records

| 72

| 159

| 34

| 21

| 30

| 64

|

colspan="10" style="font-size:8pt"| "—" denotes releases that did not chart

= Compilation albums =

class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;"
Year

! Album details

1995

| align="left"| Greatest Hits

= Singles =

class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;"
rowspan="2"| Year

! rowspan="2"| Single

! colspan="6"| Peak chart positions

! rowspan="2"| Certifications
(sales threshold)

! rowspan="2"| Album

style="font-size:smaller;"

! width="35"| US

! width="35"| US AC
{{Cite magazine |title=Adult Contemporary |url=https://www.billboard.com/artist/bad-english/chart-history/asi/ |access-date=March 16, 2021 |magazine=Billboard}}

! width="35"| US Main
{{Cite magazine |title=Mainstream Rock |url=https://www.billboard.com/artist/bad-english/chart-history/rtt/ |access-date=March 16, 2021 |magazine=Billboard}}

! width="35"| AUS
{{Cite web |title=australian-charts.com – Australian charts portal |url=http://www.australian-charts.com/search.asp?search=Bad+English&cat=s |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121016081416/http://www.australian-charts.com/search.asp?search=Bad+English&cat=s |archive-date=October 16, 2012 |access-date=December 5, 2010 |publisher=australian-charts.com}}{{cite web|url=https://www.bubblingdownunder.com/2021/06/week-commencing-11-june-1990.html|title=Week commencing 11 June 1990|website=bubblingdownunder|date=June 11, 2021|access-date=June 11, 2021}}

! width="35"| UK

! width="35"| NL
{{Cite web |title=dutchcharts.nl – Dutch charts portal |url=http://dutchcharts.nl/showinterpret.asp?interpret=Bad+English |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121025054000/http://dutchcharts.nl/showinterpret.asp?interpret=Bad+English |archive-date=October 25, 2012 |access-date=February 24, 2011 |publisher=Hung Medien}}

rowspan="4"| 1989

| align="left"| "Forget Me Not"

| 45

| —

| 2

| —

| —

| —

|

| align="left" rowspan="7"| Bad English

align="left"| "When I See You Smile"

| 1

| 11

| 10

| 4

| 61

| —

| align="left"|

  • US: Gold
  • AUS: Platinum{{Cite web |title=1990 ARIA Singles Chart |url=https://www.aria.com.au/charts/1990/singles-chart |access-date=August 13, 2020 |publisher=ARIA}}
align="left"| "Price of Love"

| 5

| 38

| 30

| 44

| 80

| —

|

align="left"| "Best of What I Got"

| —

| —

| 9

| —

| —

| —

|

rowspan="3"| 1990

| align="left"| "Heaven Is a 4 Letter Word"

| 66

| —

| 12

| 124

| —

| —

|

align="left"| "Possession"

| 21

| 42

| —

| —

| —

| —

|

align="left"| "Don't Walk Away"

| —

| —

| —

| —

| 110

| —

|

rowspan="2"| 1991

| align="left"| "Straight to Your Heart"

| 42

| —

| 9

| 116

| —

| 41

|

| align="left" rowspan="2"| Backlash

align="left"| "Time Stood Still"

| —

| —

| —

| —

| —

| 19

|

align="center" colspan="10" style="font-size:8pt"| "—" denotes releases that did not chart or not released to that country

References

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