Edwin Thiel

{{short description|German fighter ace and Knight's Cross recipient (1913–1944)}}

{{Infobox military person

|name=Edwin Thiel

|birth_date=19 June 1913

|death_date={{death date and age|1944|7|14|1913|6|19|df=y}}

|image=

|caption=

|birth_place= Oberbexbach

|death_place= Vawkavysk

|nickname=

|allegiance={{flag|Nazi Germany}}

|branch={{air force|Nazi Germany}}

|serviceyears=1941–1944

|rank=Hauptmann (captain)

|unit=JG 51, EJGr Ost

|commands=2./JG 51

|battles=World War II

|awards=Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross

|laterwork=Deutsche Luft Hansa pilot}}

Edwin Ludwig Thiel (19 June 1913 – 14 July 1944) was a Luftwaffe ace and recipient of the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross during World War II. The Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross was awarded to recognise extreme battlefield bravery or successful military leadership. Edwin Thiel was killed on 14 July 1944 after bailing out of his plane after it was hit by Soviet flak. During his career he was credited with 76 victories in 300 missions.

Career

Thiel was born on 19 June 1913 in Oberbexbach in the Saarland, which at the time was politically part of the Kingdom of Bavaria of the German Empire. Prior to World War II, he qualified as a civil pilot and flew with Deutsche Luft Hansa and served a flight instructor. In late 1941, Thiel was posted to I. Gruppe (1st group) of Jagdgeschwader 51 "Mölders" (JG 51—51st Fighter Wing).{{sfn|Obermaier|1989|p=215}}

On 29 May 1942, Thiel was appointed Staffelkapitän (squadron leader) of 2. Staffel of JG 51. He succeeded Leutnant Erwin Fleig who had been shot down behind enemy lines and became a prisoner of war.{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2006|pp=265, 274}} In July 1943, Thiel was transferred to Ergänzungs-Jagdgruppe Ost, specialized training unit for new fighter pilots destined for the Eastern Front, as an instructor. There, he commanded the 1. Staffel. Thiel was replaced by Oberleutnant Horst Haase as commander of 2. Staffel of JG 51.{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2012|p=486}}

In May 1944, Thiel transferred back to JG 51. There, he was given command of the Stabsstaffel which had temporarily been led by Leutnant Herbert Friebel after Oberleutnant Diethelm von Eichel-Streiber was transferred in April 1944.{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Balke|Bock|2022|p=256}} Thiel was killed in action on 14 July 1944 when his Focke-Wulf Fw 190 A-8 (Werknummer 170943—factory number) was shot down by Soviet anti-aircraft artillery {{convert|2|km|mi|abbr=off|sp=us}} east of Vawkavysk.{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Balke|Bock|2022|p=264}} Command of the Stabsstaffel was then given to Oberleutnant Heinz Busse.{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Balke|Bock|2022|p=256}}

Summary of career

=Aerial victory claims=

According to US historian David T. Zabecki, Thiel was credited with 76 aerial victories.{{sfn|Zabecki|2014|p=1615}} Spick also lists him with 76 aerial victories claimed in an unknown number of combat missions, all of which claimed on the Eastern Front.{{sfn|Spick|1996|p=237}} Mathews and Foreman, authors of Luftwaffe Aces — Biographies and Victory Claims, researched the German Federal Archives and found records for 71 aerial victory claims, all of which claimed on the Eastern Front in over 300 combat missions.{{sfn|Mathews|Foreman|2015|pp=1317–1317}}

Victory claims were logged to a map-reference (PQ = Planquadrat), for example "PQ 37651". The Luftwaffe grid map ({{lang|de|Jägermeldenetz}}) covered all of Europe, western Russia and North Africa and was composed of rectangles measuring 15 minutes of latitude by 30 minutes of longitude, an area of about {{Convert|360|sqmi|sqkm}}. These sectors were then subdivided into 36 smaller units to give a location area {{Convert|3|x|4|km|mi|abbr=on|sp=us}} in size.{{sfn|Planquadrat}}

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colspan="10" | Chronicle of aerial victories
colspan="10" style="text-align: left;" |

{{legend|#fbec5d;|This and the ♠ (Ace of spades) indicates those aerial victories which made Thiel an "ace-in-a-day", a term which designates a fighter pilot who has shot down five or more airplanes in a single day. |border=1px solid #AAAAAA}}

{{legend|#faecc8|This and the ? (question mark) indicates information discrepancies listed by Prien, Stemmer, Rodeike, Bock, Mathews and Foreman.|border=1px solid #AAAAAA}}

scope="col"| Claim

!scope="col"| Date

!scope="col"| Time

!scope="col" width="100px"| Type

!scope="col"| Location

!scope="col" style="border-left: 3px solid grey;" | Claim

!scope="col"| Date

!scope="col"| Time

!scope="col" width="100px"| Type

!scope="col"| Location

colspan="10" | – 1. Staffel of Jagdgeschwader 51 –{{sfn|Mathews|Foreman|2015|p=588}}
Operation Barbarossa — October – 5 December 1941
1

| 2 October 1941

| style="background:#faecc8" | 14:16?{{Refn|According to Mathews and Foreman claimed at 14:15.{{sfn|Mathews|Foreman|2015|p=1317}}|group="Note"}}

| I-61 (MiG-3)

| {{Convert|45|km|mi|abbr=on}} northwest of Roslavl{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2003|p=255}}

| style="border-left: 3px solid grey;" | 2

| 3 October 1941

| 09:55

| I-18 (MiG-1){{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2003|p=255}}

|

colspan="10" | – 2. Staffel of Jagdgeschwader 51 –{{sfn|Mathews|Foreman|2015|p=588}}
Eastern Front — 1 May 1942 – 3 February 1943
colspan="10" style="text-align: center" | According to Prien, Stemmer, Rodeike and Bock, Thiel claimed 23 undocumented aerial victories between 30 May and 15 September 1942.{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2006|p=273}} These claims are not documented by Mathews and Foreman.{{sfn|Mathews|Foreman|2015|p=1317}}
28

| 27 June 1942

| 09:42

| MiG-3{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2006|p=269}}

|

| style="border-left: 3px solid grey;" | 36

| 29 October 1942

| 13:42

| P-40

| Volokolamsk{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2006|p=271}}

29

| 6 July 1942

| 14:20

| Pe-2{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2006|p=269}}

|

| style="border-left: 3px solid grey;" | 37

| 29 October 1942

| 13:44

| P-40

| Volokolamsk{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2006|p=271}}

30

| 6 July 1942

| 14:22

| Pe-2{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2006|p=269}}

|

| style="border-left: 3px solid grey; background:#fbec5d;" | 38♠

| 4 December 1942

| 11:47

| P-40

| vicinity of Schojtzowa{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2006|p=272}}

31

| 6 July 1942

| 14:24

| Pe-2

| {{Convert|1|km|mi|abbr=on}} west of Bobrowo{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2006|p=269}}

| style="border-left: 3px solid grey; background:#fbec5d;" | 39♠

| 4 December 1942

| 11:53

| Il-2

| {{Convert|5|km|mi|abbr=on}} north of Ljatiwina{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2006|p=272}}

32

| 7 July 1942

| 19:05

| MiG-3{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2006|p=269}}

|

| style="border-left: 3px solid grey; background:#fbec5d;" | 40♠

| 4 December 1942

| 11:56

| Il-2

| PQ 37651{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2006|p=272}}

33

| 8 July 1942

| 07:50

| MiG-3{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2006|p=269}}

|

| style="border-left: 3px solid grey; background:#fbec5d;" | 41♠

| 4 December 1942

| 11:58

| Il-2

| {{Convert|2|km|mi|abbr=on}} north of Pegorjelka{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2006|p=272}}

34

| 8 July 1942

| 07:52

| MiG-3{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2006|p=269}}

|

| style="border-left: 3px solid grey; background:#fbec5d;" | 42♠

| 4 December 1942

| 12:05

| Il-2

| {{Convert|3|km|mi|abbr=on}} southwest of Katowa{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2006|p=272}}

35

| 11 July 1942

| 06:05

| MiG-3{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2006|p=270}}

|

| style="border-left: 3px solid grey;" |

|

|

|

|

colspan="10" | – 2. Staffel of Jagdgeschwader 51 –{{sfn|Mathews|Foreman|2015|p=588}}
Eastern Front — 4 February – July 1943
43

| 23 February 1943

| 10:39

| Pe-2

| PQ 35 Ost 44294{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2012|p=489}}
{{Convert|20|km|mi|abbr=on}} northeast of Zhizdra

| style="border-left: 3px solid grey;" | 54

| 10 June 1943

| 19:23

| Il-2

| PQ 35 Ost 44473{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2012|p=492}}
{{Convert|15|km|mi|abbr=on}} north of Bryansk

44

| 23 February 1943

| 10:41

| Pe-2

| PQ 35 Ost 44264{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2012|p=489}}
{{Convert|15|km|mi|abbr=on}} northeast of Zhizdra

| style="border-left: 3px solid grey;" | 55

| 6 July 1943

| 19:47

| LaGG-3

| PQ 35 Ost 63584{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2012|p=493}}
{{Convert|20|km|mi|abbr=on}} southwest of Maloarkhangelsk

45

| 23 February 1943

| 10:45

| Pe-2

| PQ 35 Ost 44264{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2012|p=489}}
{{Convert|20|km|mi|abbr=on}} southwest of Dudovskiy

| style="border-left: 3px solid grey;" | 56

| 11 July 1943

| 16:32

| Yak-1

| PQ 35 Ost 64882{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2012|p=493}}
{{Convert|20|km|mi|abbr=on}} southeast of Mtsensk

46

| 23 February 1943

| 10:46

| Pe-2

| PQ 35 Ost 54142{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2012|p=489}}
{{Convert|25|km|mi|abbr=on}} northeast of Zhizdra

| style="border-left: 3px solid grey;" | 57

| 11 July 1943

| 16:33

| Il-2

| PQ 35 Ost 64896{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2012|p=493}}
{{Convert|15|km|mi|abbr=on}} north of Maloarkhangelsk

style="background:#fbec5d;" | 47♠

| 24 February 1943

| 10:40

| Il-2

| PQ 35 Ost 44223{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2012|p=489}}
{{Convert|25|km|mi|abbr=on}} north of Zhizdra

| style="border-left: 3px solid grey;" | 58

| 11 July 1943

| 16:35

| Il-2

| PQ 35 Ost 64853{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2012|p=493}}
{{Convert|25|km|mi|abbr=on}} east-northeast of Zalegoshch

style="background:#fbec5d;" | 48♠

| 24 February 1943

| 10:48

| Pe-2

| PQ 35 Ost 44233{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2012|p=489}}
{{Convert|25|km|mi|abbr=on}} north-northeast of Zhizdra

| style="border-left: 3px solid grey;" | 59

| 11 July 1943

| 17:24

| La-5

| PQ 35 Ost 63471{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2012|p=494}}
{{Convert|15|km|mi|abbr=on}} northeast of Zalegoshch

style="background:#fbec5d;" | 49♠

| 24 February 1943

| 13:41

| La-5

| PQ 35 Ost 64612{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2012|p=489}}
{{Convert|25|km|mi|abbr=on}} south of Arsenjewo

| style="border-left: 3px solid grey;" | 60

| 12 July 1943

| 08:45

| La-5

| PQ 35 Ost 64591{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2012|p=494}}
{{Convert|20|km|mi|abbr=on}} east of Zalegoshch

style="background:#fbec5d;" | 50♠

| 24 February 1943

| 13:46

| Il-2

| PQ 35 Ost 64671{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2012|p=489}}
{{Convert|20|km|mi|abbr=on}} north of Mtsensk

| style="border-left: 3px solid grey;" | 61

| 12 July 1943

| 08:54

| Yak-1

| PQ 35 Ost 63231, west of Novosil{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2012|p=494}}
{{Convert|25|km|mi|abbr=on}} east-northeast of Zalegoshch

style="background:#fbec5d;" | 51♠

| 24 February 1943

| 13:50

| Il-2

| PQ 35 Ost 64621{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2012|p=489}}
{{Convert|20|km|mi|abbr=on}} north-northeast of Mtsensk

| style="border-left: 3px solid grey;" | 62

| 13 July 1943

| 13:42

| Yak-1

| PQ 35 Ost 63225{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2012|p=494}}
{{Convert|10|km|mi|abbr=on}} east of Zalegoshch

52

| 8 June 1943

| 08:53

| Yak-7

| PQ 35 Ost 63394{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2012|p=492}}
{{Convert|15|km|mi|abbr=on}} north-northwest of Maloarkhangelsk

| style="border-left: 3px solid grey;" | 63

| 13 July 1943

| 13:43

| Il-2

| PQ 35 Ost 63254{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2012|p=494}}
{{Convert|10|km|mi|abbr=on}} east of Zalegoshch

53

| 10 June 1943

| 19:20

| Il-2

| PQ 35 Ost 44562{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2012|p=492}}
{{Convert|15|km|mi|abbr=on}} southeast of Dyatkovo

| style="border-left: 3px solid grey;" | 64

| 13 July 1943

| 13:45

| Il-2

| PQ 35 Ost 63221{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Rodeike|Bock|2012|p=494}}
{{Convert|15|km|mi|abbr=on}} southeast of Zalegoshch

colspan="10" | – Stabsstaffel of Jagdgeschwader 51 –{{sfn|Mathews|Foreman|2015|pp=1317–1318}}
Eastern Front — May – 14 July 1944
style="background:#fbec5d;" | 65♠

| 23 June 1944

| 10:48

| Il-2

| PQ 25 Ost 96658{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Balke|Bock|2022|p=260}}
{{Convert|15|km|mi|abbr=on}} southwest of Haradok

| style="border-left: 3px solid grey; background:#fbec5d;" | 69♠

| 23 June 1944

| style="background:#faecc8" | 14:18?{{Refn|According to Mathews and Foreman claimed at 14:58.{{sfn|Mathews|Foreman|2015|p=1318}}|group="Note"}}

| Il-2

| PQ 25 Ost 96813{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Balke|Bock|2022|p=260}}
{{Convert|20|km|mi|abbr=on}} east of Ulla

style="background:#fbec5d;" | 66♠

| 23 June 1944

| 10:50

| Il-2

| PQ 25 Ost 96655{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Balke|Bock|2022|p=260}}
{{Convert|15|km|mi|abbr=on}} southwest of Haradok

| style="border-left: 3px solid grey;" | 70

| 25 June 1944

| 09:35

| style="background:#faecc8" | Pe-2?{{Refn|According to Mathews and Foreman claimed as an Ilyushin Il-2.{{sfn|Mathews|Foreman|2015|p=1318}}|group="Note"|name="Il-2"}}

| PQ 35 Ost 05559{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Balke|Bock|2022|p=261}}
{{Convert|15|km|mi|abbr=on}} south of Orsha

style="background:#fbec5d;" | 67♠

| 23 June 1944

| 10:53

| Il-2

| PQ 25 Ost 96652{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Balke|Bock|2022|p=260}}
{{Convert|15|km|mi|abbr=on}} southwest of Haradok

| style="border-left: 3px solid grey;" | 71

| 25 June 1944

| 09:38

| style="background:#faecc8" | Pe-2?

| PQ 35 Ost 05565{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Balke|Bock|2022|p=261}}
{{Convert|25|km|mi|abbr=on}} south-southwest of Orsha

style="background:#fbec5d;" | 68♠

| 23 June 1944

| style="background:#faecc8" | 14:12?{{Refn|According to Mathews and Foreman claimed at 14:54.{{sfn|Mathews|Foreman|2015|p=1317}}|group="Note"}}

| Il-2

| PQ 25 Ost 96776{{sfn|Prien|Stemmer|Balke|Bock|2022|p=260}}
{{Convert|20|km|mi|abbr=on}} east-northeast of Ulla

| style="border-left: 3px solid grey;" |

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=Awards=

Notes

{{Reflist|group="Note"}}

References

=Citations=

{{Reflist|25em}}

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