Full Collapse

{{good article}}

{{Use mdy dates|date=June 2025}}

{{Infobox album

| name = Full Collapse

| type = Studio

| artist = Thursday

| cover = Thursday+Full+Collapse.jpg

| alt = Four leather chairs against a white wall, surrounded by a blue border

| released = {{start date|2001|4|10}}

| recorded = November 2000

| studio = Big Blue Meenie, Jersey City, New Jersey

| genre =

{{flatlist|

| length = 42:26

| label = Victory

| producer = Sal Villanueva

| prev_title = Waiting

| prev_year = 1999

| next_title = Five Stories Falling

| next_year = 2002

| misc = {{Singles

| name = Full Collapse

| type = studio

| single1 = Understanding in a Car Crash

| single1date = April 2001

| single2 = Cross Out the Eyes

| single2date = June 10, 2002

}}

}}

Full Collapse is the second studio album by American post-hardcore band Thursday. It was released on April 10, 2001, through Victory Records, to whom the band signed after leaving Eyeball Records. With the addition of guitarist Steve Pedulla, recording sessions for the album were held in November 2000 at Big Blue Meenie Recording Studios in Jersey City. Sal Villanueva, who served as the producer, the production team and members of different bands contributed additional instrumentation to the recordings. Full Collapse is considered a post-hardcore album.

Preceded by a two-month United States tour, the album's release was promoted with a short series of shows. The band toured the US in 2001, with BoySetsFire, Waterdown, Rival Schools, and Saves the Day. At the end of the year, the band released music videos for "Understanding in a Car Crash" and "Cross Out the Eyes". In early 2002, keyboardist Andrew Everding joined the band. They went on tour with the Movielife and Sparta and appeared on the Warped Tour soon afterwards. Around this time, the band made it known that they had several issues with Victory Records and its founder, Tony Brummel. Thursday has performed the album in its entirety on tours in 2011 and 2018.

Full Collapse peaked at number 178 on the US Billboard 200. It also appeared on two Billboard component charts: number ten on Heatseekers Albums, and number nine on the Independent Albums. The album received favorable reviews from music critics, many of whom praised the album's musicianship. It is referred to as a classic emo album and praised as one of the best emo albums of all time, by publications such as Kerrang!, NME, and Rolling Stone. It has influenced bands such as As Cities Burn, My Chemical Romance, and Senses Fail.

Background and production

Thursday released their debut album, Waiting, in November 1999 through Eyeball Records.{{cite web|url=http://www.billhenderson.org/discdetail.php?id=6|title=Thursday - Waiting|publisher=Bill Henderson|access-date=February 6, 2018|archive-date=February 7, 2018|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180207010024/http://www.billhenderson.org/discdetail.php?id=6|url-status=live}} With the band touring more often, all of the members dropped out of Rutgers University.{{cite web|url=https://www.browardpalmbeach.com/music/tgi-thursday-6322207|title=TGI Thursday|work=New Times Broward-Palm Beach|author=Bowker, Tom|date=August 1, 2002|access-date=February 18, 2021|archive-date=February 18, 2021|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210218160445/https://www.browardpalmbeach.com/music/tgi-thursday-6322207|url-status=live}} As they lacked a permanent second guitarist, the band had multiple people filling in on guitar. Guitarist Steve Pedulla, whose brother was friends with members of Thursday, joined the band in 2000 after filling in for a show. Eyeball was aware that Thursday was outgrowing what support they could provide, and asked other labels to sign the band. Waiting received enough attention to be noticed by Victory Records, who flew out representatives to watch them play a show in their hometown.{{cite web|url=https://www.punknews.org/article/1566/interviews-thursday|title=Thursday|publisher=Punknews.org|author=Paul, Aubin|date=June 18, 2001|access-date=February 18, 2021|archive-date=April 8, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200408054639/https://www.punknews.org/article/1566/interviews-thursday|url-status=live}} By the time the band signed with Victory, they were able to tour full-time. Drummer Tucker Rule said the reason they went with Victory was that the label had previously signed Earth Crisis and Refused. Bassist Tim Payne said Thursday was one of a few acts that strayed from the label's typical hardcore punk style.{{cite web|url=http://www.smash-mag.com/interviews/thursday2.htm|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20050429004110/http://www.smash-mag.com/interviews/thursday2.htm|title='Vorband von Pink – nicht für 100.000$'|publisher=Smash|author=Isenbügel, Marc|date=May 16, 2004|archivedate=April 29, 2005|accessdate=April 29, 2022}}

After signing, they were told by their friends that they would find themselves in "a situation that we would regret". The members of Thursday were unsure what their friends were referring to – they assumed that the signing would work out fine. They wrote the new songs in a collaborative manner. In comparison, most of the songs on Waiting were written by a single person. The majority of the songs that ended up on Full Collapse were written in the basement of frontman Geoff Rickly's parents' house.{{cite magazine|url=http://www.rollingstone.com:80/artists/thursday/articles/story/5938758/new_faces_thursday|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20090214045715/http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/thursday/articles/story/5938758/new_faces_thursday|title=New Faces: Thursday|magazine=Rolling Stone|author=Miller, Kirk|date=August 30, 2002|archive-date=February 14, 2009|access-date=February 19, 2021|url-status=dead}} They began recording the new album after a US tour.{{cite web|url=http://rock.yahoo.com/rock/music_news/amuznet/story.html?s=n/amuznet/rock/news/20001016/20001016003|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20010925093155/http://rock.yahoo.com/rock/music_news/amuznet/story.html?s=n%2Famuznet%2Frock%2Fnews%2F20001016%2F20001016003|title=Victory Records Signs Thursday|publisher=Yahoo! Music|author=Galleno, Daniel|archive-date=September 25, 2001|access-date=February 18, 2021|url-status=live}} Sessions were held at Big Blue Meenie Recording Studios in Jersey City, New Jersey, with producer Sal Villanueva of metal band Demonspeed. The sessions in November 2000 lasted for 20 days.{{cite web|url=http://www.victoryrecords.com/thursday.html|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20010202210200/http://www.victoryrecords.com/thursday.html|title=Thursday|publisher=Victory Records|archive-date=February 2, 2001|access-date=February 18, 2021}}{{cite magazine|url=https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/68866/thursdays-war-rages-on-island|title=Thursday's 'War' Rages On Island|magazine=Billboard|date=October 1, 2003|access-date=February 4, 2018|archive-date=October 31, 2016|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20161031003740/http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/68866/thursdays-war-rages-on-island|url-status=live}} Tim Giles and Erin Farley acted as engineers, with assistance from Codie Brown. Giles mixed the recordings, before the album was mastered by Timo G. Less at Surgical Sound.

Music and lyrics

Full Collapse has been mainly described as a post-hardcore release,Bird, ed. 2015, p. 25 while also being labelled as post-punk, emo pop, hardcore punk, and punk rock. Throughout the album, Rickly's singing switches between crooning to screaming.{{cite web|url=https://www.pastemagazine.com/music/punk/the-25-best-punk-albums-of-the-2000s/#14-thursday-full-collapse|title=The 25 Best Punk Albums of the 2000s|work=Paste|author=Nizam, Adam|date=January 11, 2017|access-date=February 18, 2020|archive-date=November 12, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20201112020939/https://www.pastemagazine.com/music/punk/the-25-best-punk-albums-of-the-2000s/#14-thursday-full-collapse|url-status=live}} Full Collapse lacks some of the typical traits of emo in favor of Johnny Marr-like picking in a minor key, against power chords. Members of other bands and members of the production team contributed various instrumentation to the tracks: Farley with additional guitar on "Understanding in a Car Crash"; Joe Darone of the Rosenbergs with additional vocals on "Autobiography of a Nation"; Tom Schlatter of the Assistant with additional vocals on "Autobiography of a Nation" and "Cross Out the Eyes"; Villanueva with additional guitar on "Autobiography of a Nation" and "Wind-Up"; Giles with strings and melotone on "Paris in Flames"; and Frank Giokas of Unsound with additional guitar on "Standing on the Edge of Summer".

The opening track, "A0001", sees Rickly pondering whether a robot is capable of dreaming, as guitar feedback gives way to two snare hits. He said people were "spending so much of our time in front of computers that it's feeling like we're becoming robots".{{cite web|url=http://207.159.100.39/archive/archive_heard_thursday.htm|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20010708072600/http://207.159.100.39/archive/archive_heard_thursday.htm|title=Thursday|publisher=Basement-Life|date=February 2001|archivedate=July 8, 2001|accessdate=December 12, 2021}} "Understanding in a Car Crash" details the death by car crash of Rickly's girlfriend and best friend and his subsequent visit to the hospital. Rickly said the song was inspired by what they were listening to at the time, Joy Division, and put that "within the realm of hardcore".{{cite web|url=https://www.altpress.com/features/the_story_behind_understanding_in_a_car_crash_thursday_geoff_rickly/|title=BackTracking: The Stories Behind The Songs - Geoff Rickly on 'Understanding In A Car Crash'|work=Alternative Press|author=Pettigrew, Jason|date=May 6, 2013|access-date=February 19, 2021|archive-date=November 12, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20201112021952/https://www.altpress.com/features/the_story_behind_understanding_in_a_car_crash_thursday_geoff_rickly/|url-status=live}} "Concealer" is a short up-tempo song that is followed by the Cure-esque "Autobiography of a Nation", which talks about genocide.{{cite web|url=https://www.allmusic.com/album/five-stories-falling-mw0000438001|title=Five Stories Falling - Thursday {{!}} Songs, Reviews, Credits|publisher=AllMusic|author=Blanford, Roxanne|access-date=February 19, 2021|archive-date=December 13, 2019|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20191213065116/https://www.allmusic.com/album/five-stories-falling-mw0000438001|url-status=live}} "A Hole in the World" features a guitar riff in the vein of Jawbreaker and ends with a piano part. "Cross Out the Eyes" is the heaviest song on the album, featuring screaming from Schlatter.{{cite web|url=https://www.riverfronttimes.com/musicblog/2012/02/13/six-most-overwrought-valentines-day-emo-songs?showFullText=true|title=Six Most Overwrought Valentine's Day Emo Songs|work=Riverfront Times|author=Wasoba, Ryan|date=February 13, 2012|access-date=February 18, 2020|archive-date=July 22, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200722180801/https://www.riverfronttimes.com/musicblog/2012/02/13/six-most-overwrought-valentines-day-emo-songs?showFullText=true|url-status=live}} Rickly said he wrote it about wanting to "obliterat[e] the whole authorial me-me-me-this-is-about-me [stance]"; it was one of the first song he wrote on guitar.

"Paris in Flames" discusses transgender and LGBT activism, as well as mentioning prejudices that a gay friend of Rickly's had faced.{{cite web|url=https://www.vice.com/en/article/rank-your-records-thursday-geoff-rickly/|title=Rank Your Records: Thursday's Geoff Rickly Explains Why 'Full Collapse' Is the Band's Best Record|work=Vice|author=Hill, John|date=December 11, 2014|access-date=September 23, 2016|archive-date=November 12, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20201112015150/https://www.vice.com/en/article/rgpxzy/rank-your-records-thursday-geoff-rickly|url-status=live}}{{cite web|url=https://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/29/magazine/the-summer-of-screamo.html?pagewanted=2&src=pm|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200827051240/https://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/29/magazine/the-summer-of-screamo.html?pagewanted=2&src=pm|title=The Summer of Screamo|work=The New York Times|author=Dee, Jonathan|date=June 29, 2003|archive-date=August 27, 2020|access-date=February 19, 2021}} "Standing on the Edge of Summer" talks about impending death and reuses a guitar effect heard in "Understanding in a Car Crash". "Wind-Up" begins with a slow verse section that gives way to a screaming chorus, complete with dueling vocals. "How Long Is the Night?" is about Rickly's partner in French class, who would lay on the train tracks behind their school, wishing that the a train would run them over. The album ends with "i1100", which consists of distorted sound effects.

Release

=Initial touring and promotion=

Thursday announced Full Collapse on February 5, 2001, for release two months later.{{cite web|url=http://www.victoryrecords.com/shows.html|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20010210004724/http://www.victoryrecords.com/shows.html|title=New News from Victory|publisher=Victory Records|archive-date=February 10, 2001|access-date=February 18, 2021|url-status=live}} The band created hype for the album by touring the United States for two months with bands Midtown, Grey AM, and Every Time I Die. On March 19, 2001, "Cross Out the Eyes" was posted as a free download through Victory Records' website. Full Collapse was released on April 10, 2001 through Victory. The design of the physical was debated: the band hoped to create a booklet of artwork for Full Collapse but were discouraged by Victory founder Tony Brummel who insisted on a less expensive one-page insert without printed lyrics. A compromise was reached, which resulted in the final chosen packaging. The album's release was promoted with a series of shows with Midtown and River City High.{{cite web|url=http://www.victoryrecords.com/shows.html|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20010331080738/http://www.victoryrecords.com/shows.html|title=New News from Victory|publisher=Victory Records|archive-date=March 31, 2001|access-date=February 18, 2021|url-status=live}}

"Understanding in a Car Crash" was released as a single to college radio stations in April 2001. In June 2001, Thursday embarked on an East Coast US tour with Skycamefalling and Fairweather.{{cite web|url=http://www.victoryrecords.com/tours.html|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20010603135920/http://www.victoryrecords.com/tours.html|title=Tours|publisher=Victory Records|archive-date=June 3, 2001|access-date=February 18, 2021|url-status=live}} In July, the band toured with BoySetsFire, Samiam, and the Movielife. Following this, they toured across the US with Waterdown and Drowningman until August. After three shows with Warped Tour, the band toured with Rival Schools.{{cite web|url=http://www.victoryrecords.com/shows.html|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20010801144105/http://www.victoryrecords.com/shows.html|title=New News from Victory|publisher=Victory Records|archive-date=August 1, 2001|access-date=February 18, 2021|url-status=live}}{{cite web|url=http://fullcollapse.com/news/|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20010722045317/http://fullcollapse.com/news/|title=News|publisher=Thursday|archive-date=July 22, 2001|access-date=February 18, 2021}} In October, the band toured the West Coast for a week with Murder City Devils and American Steel, before touring the East Coast with Piebald, the Lawrence Arms, and Recover in November.{{cite web|url=http://www.fullcollapse.com:80/displaytourdiary.asp?TimeStamp=P|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20030625180425/http://www.fullcollapse.com/displaytourdiary.asp?TimeStamp=P|title=Tourdiary|publisher=Thursday|archive-date=June 25, 2003|access-date=February 18, 2021|url-status=live}}{{cite web|url=https://www.punknews.org/article/2166/its-no-longer-about-the-benjamins-baby|title=It's no longer about the Benjamins, baby?|publisher=Punknews.org|author=Heisel, Scott|date=October 31, 2001|access-date=February 14, 2021|archive-date=May 13, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200513185129/https://www.punknews.org/article/2166/its-no-longer-about-the-benjamins-baby|url-status=live}} Thursday toured with Hey Mercedes and Saves the Day until the end of the year.{{cite web|url=http://www.savestheday.com:80/tour.html|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20011204201619/http://savestheday.com/tour.html|title=Saves the Day|publisher=Saves the Day|archive-date=December 4, 2001|access-date=April 13, 2018|url-status=dead}}

In December 2001, the music video for "Understanding in a Car Crash", which consists of live footage, began airing on MTVX, MTV2, and MuchMusic. Following this, a music video directed by Darren Doane for "Cross Out the Eyes" was released. Doane interpreted the song to be about rebirth and marriage; the video is centered around a guy, who is jobless, single, and offers nothing to society. He is taken by people and has his skin removed, indicating that he is a new person, and sold to a rich woman. As a result of this, he is given marriage status, making him a valuable member of society.{{cite web|url=http://decapolis.com/cgi-bin/music/viewnews.cgi?newsid1044622248,58913,|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20030224074954/http://decapolis.com/cgi-bin/music/viewnews.cgi?newsid1044622248,58913,|title=Geoff Rickly (Thursday) Interview|publisher=Decapolis|author=Hewitt, Andy|date=February 7, 2003|archivedate=February 24, 2003|accessdate=December 12, 2021}}

By January 2002, Thursday was gaining feature stories in publications such as Metal Edge and Metal Maniacs. The following month, keyboardist Andrew Everding joined the band. He had been relaxing at Rickly's apartment and was invited to a practice session with the band.{{cite web|url=http://www.kludgemagazine.com:80/interviews.php?id=102|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20030123043520/http://www.kludgemagazine.com/interviews.php?id=102|title=Interview: Thursday|work=Kludge|date=October 22, 2002|archive-date=January 23, 2003|access-date=November 14, 2018|url-status=live}} The same month, the band toured across the United Kingdom with the Movielife.{{cite web|url=http://www.fullcollapse.com:80/displaynews.asp?TimeStamp=P&CurPage=6|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20040116103212/http://www.fullcollapse.com/displaynews.asp?TimeStamp=P&CurPage=6|title=News|publisher=Thursday|archive-date=January 16, 2004|access-date=February 18, 2021|url-status=live}} The music video for "Understanding in a Car Crash" was successful at MTV2, where it stayed in rotation for eight weeks.{{cite web|url=https://www.punknews.org/article/3025/thursday-on-mtv2s-spring-break-possibly-signs-with-island|title=Thursday on MTV2's Spring Break / possibly signs with Island?|publisher=Punknews.org|author=Heisel, Scott|date=March 18, 2002|access-date=February 18, 2021|archive-date=May 14, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200514143737/https://www.punknews.org/article/3025/thursday-on-mtv2s-spring-break-possibly-signs-with-island|url-status=live}} In March and April 2002, the band went on tour with Sparta.{{cite web|url=https://www.punknews.org/article/2699/tours-sparta-thursday-tour-dates|title=Sparta/Thursday Tour Dates|publisher=Punknews.org|author=Heisel, Scott|date=February 2, 2002|access-date=April 24, 2018|archive-date=April 24, 2018|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180424152746/https://www.punknews.org/article/2699/tours-sparta-thursday-tour-dates|url-status=live}} They were denied clearance at the Canada–US border, and as a result, had to cancel a show. Shortly afterwards, the band appeared at the Skate and Surf festival. They had planned to support Face to Face on their headlining US tour, but were replaced by the Movielife.{{cite web|url=https://www.punknews.org/article/3219/thursday-denied-at-the-border|title=Thursday denied at the border|publisher=Punknews.org|author=Heisel, Scott|date=April 8, 2002|access-date=February 18, 2021|archive-date=May 14, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200514155456/https://www.punknews.org/article/3219/thursday-denied-at-the-border|url-status=live}}{{cite web|url=https://www.punknews.org/article/2699/tours-sparta-thursday-tour-dates|title=Sparta/Thursday Tour Dates|publisher=Punknews.org|author=Heisel, Scott|date=February 2, 2002|access-date=February 18, 2021|archive-date=May 13, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200513204451/https://www.punknews.org/article/2699/tours-sparta-thursday-tour-dates|url-status=live}}

=Issues with Victory and subsequent touring=

In May 2002, as Thursday's signing to Island Def Jam had become imminent, the band released a statement through their website detailing their internal problems with Victory and reasons for leaving. The band said they had higher aspirations for the album art for Full Collapse, which were undone by Brummel's desire to keep costs down. During a visit to Victory's offices, they also discovered that for promotional purposes, the label made Thursday-branded whoopee cushions, which were intended to be distributed to fans at the Warped Tour. They were produced without Thursday's consent and so were discontinued. The band continually emphasized the need to communicate regarding art direction and promotion, but were allegedly ignored by Brummel and told that Victory was too big to run everything past its artists.{{cite web|url=https://www.punknews.org/article/3601/thursday-exposes-victory-officially-announces-island-signing|title=Thursday exposes Victory / officially announces Island signing!|publisher=Punknews.org|author=Heisel, Scott|date=May 22, 2002|access-date=February 5, 2018|url-status=live|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170803215453/https://www.punknews.org/article/3601/thursday-exposes-victory-officially-announces-island-signing|archive-date=August 3, 2017}} Rickly recalled that upon signing, the label told them that they wanted Thursday to be their own pop iteration of Saves the Day.{{cite web|url=http://in-your-ear.net/features/interviews/thursday/|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20050113045354/http://in-your-ear.net/features/interviews/thursday/|title=Thursday The Language of Thursday|publisher=In Your Ear Magazine|author=Edwards, Melissa|date=October–November 2003|archivedate=January 13, 2005|accessdate=April 8, 2023}}

In a meeting with Brummel, he claimed that Thursday was not living up to his expectations, with the band's statement explaining: "Instead of Tony's relationship with us being based on a love for music, it was based entirely on numbers." However, by late 2001, Brummel began showing more concern for the band and called more frequently regarding sales. They soon learned that Brummel planned to sell part of Victory to MCA and, as Thursday's contract only allowed them to leave Victory for a major label, began reciprocating new-found interest from prominent labels. By early 2002, the decision to join Island was made as MCA began promoting Full Collapse as their own, and Thursday found itself in a legal battle with the label. Rickly would later note: "When we parted ways with Victory, we got our asses kicked. [...] Victory's lawyers were so strong."{{cite web|url=https://idobi.com/news/thursdays-victory-treaty-causes-uproar/|title=Thursday's Victory Treaty Causes Uproar|publisher=idobi|author=Fiasco, Lance|date=July 10, 2007|access-date=February 18, 2021|archive-date=February 18, 2021|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210218153318/https://idobi.com/news/thursdays-victory-treaty-causes-uproar/|url-status=live}}

"Cross Out the Eyes" was released to modern rock radio stations on June 10, 2002.Adored 2002, p. 30 Between late June and mid-August, the band went on the 2002 Warped Tour.{{cite magazine|url=https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/76558/warped-tour-to-kick-off-in-late-june|title=Warped Tour To Kick Off In Late June|magazine=Billboard|date=March 7, 2002|access-date=February 11, 2017|archive-date=February 12, 2017|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20170212091211/http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/76558/warped-tour-to-kick-off-in-late-june|url-status=live}} Following this, the band appeared at the Bizarre, Pukkelpop, Reading and Leeds Festivals.{{cite web|url=http://www.victoryrecords.com/tours.html|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20020802143804/http://www.victoryrecords.com/tours.html|title=Tours|publisher=Victory Records|archive-date=August 2, 2002|access-date=February 18, 2021|url-status=live}}{{cite web|url=https://www.punknews.org/article/3163/vagrant-gets-bizarre|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200514154425/http://punknews.org/article/3163/vagrant-gets-bizarre|title=Vagrant gets bizarre|publisher=Punknews.org|author=Heisel, Scott|date=April 3, 2002|archive-date=May 14, 2020|access-date=February 20, 2021|url-status=live}} Though the band were not planning on doing another tour, they appeared at three shows on the Plea for Peace tour. Keeley said the band had heard about the tour from the previous year, and felt it was an appropriate way to end the touring cycle for Full Collapse. Live versions of "Understanding in a Car Crash", "Autobiography of a Nation", "Paris in Flames", and "Standing on the Edge of Summer" would appear on the band's second EP Five Stories Falling (2002).{{cite AV media notes|title=Five Stories Falling|author=Thursday|year=2002|type=sleeve|publisher=Victory Records|id=VR-189}} Thursday would later use Victory's lawyers to leave Island in 2007 and reunite with Brummel to work on the live/video album Kill the House Lights (2007). It chronicles the band's career with a documentary and concert footage emphasizing the Full Collapse era. It also features demos and alternate versions of songs from that album.{{cite web|url=http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1564369/thursday-knew-victory-treaty-would-confuse-everybody.jhtml|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121020052912/http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1564369/thursday-knew-victory-treaty-would-confuse-everybody.jhtml|url-status=dead|title=Thursday Knew Victory Treaty 'Would Confuse Everybody'|publisher=MTV|author=Harris, Chris|date=July 9, 2007|archive-date=October 20, 2012|access-date=March 28, 2021}}

Critical reception

{{Music ratings

| rev1 = AbsolutePunk

| rev1Score = 95%{{cite web|url=http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=1584491|archive-url=https://archive.today/20130221030537/http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=1584491|title=Thursday - Full Collapse - Album Review|work=AbsolutePunk|author=Collum, Chris|date=March 5, 2010|archive-date=February 21, 2013|access-date=February 18, 2021|url-status=live}}

| rev2 = AllMusic

| rev2Score = {{Rating|3|5}}{{cite web|url=https://www.allmusic.com/album/full-collapse-mw0000001926|title=Full Collapse - Thursday {{!}} Songs, Reviews, Credits|publisher=AllMusic|author=Morris, Kurt|access-date=February 18, 2021|archive-date=June 13, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200613165629/https://www.allmusic.com/album/full-collapse-mw0000001926|url-status=live}}

| rev3 = Pitchfork

| rev3Score = 5.6/10{{cite web|url=https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/8054-full-collapse/|title=Thursday: Full Collapse Album Review|work=Pitchfork|author=Carr, Eric|date=June 10, 2002|access-date=February 18, 2021|archive-date=November 27, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20201127035008/https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/8054-full-collapse/|url-status=live}}

| rev4 = Punknews.org

| rev4Score = {{Rating|4|5}}{{cite web|url=http://www.punknews.org/review/73/thursday-full-collapse|title=Thursday - Full Collapse|publisher=Punknews.org|author=Paul, Aubin|date=March 27, 2001|access-date=February 18, 2021|archive-date=April 5, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200405155849/https://www.punknews.org/review/73/thursday-full-collapse|url-status=live}}

|rev5 = Rock Sound

|rev5score = {{Rating|3|5}}{{Cite magazine |last=Griffiths |first=Nick |date=May 2001 |title=Reviews: Hardcore |magazine=Rock Sound |location=UK |publisher=IXO Publishing Ltd |issue=24 |page=91}}

| rev6 = Rolling Stone

| rev6Score = {{Rating|3|5}}{{cite magazine |url=http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/thursday/albums/album/98452/review/5940480/full_collapse|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20071102071304/http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/thursday/albums/album/98452/review/5940480/full_collapse|title=Thursday: Full Collapse : Music Reviews|magazine=Rolling Stone|author=Edwards, Gavin|date=August 26, 2002|archive-date=November 2, 2007|url-status=dead|access-date=February 18, 2021}}

| rev7 = Sputnikmusic

| rev7Score = 4/5{{cite web|url=https://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/26293/Thursday-Full-Collapse/|title=Thursday - Full Collapse (album review 2)|publisher=Sputnikmusic|author=DaveyBoy|date=July 13, 2008|access-date=February 19, 2021|archive-date=February 19, 2021|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210219152043/https://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/26293/Thursday-Full-Collapse/|url-status=live}}

| rev8 = Stylus Magazine

| rev8Score = 4.5/10{{cite web|url=http://www.stylusmagazine.com/review.php?ID=1058|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20041106210852/http://www.stylusmagazine.com/review.php?ID=1058|title=Thursday - Full Collapse - Review|work=Stylus Magazine|author=Burns, Todd|date=September 1, 2003|archive-date=November 6, 2004|access-date=May 15, 2024}}

}}

Full Collapse was met with generally favourable reviews from music critics. Chris Collum of AbsolutePunk wrote that "Thursday are something special, something that is almost unique, and this album–of their five–does the best job of getting that across." He said that the album's "biggest draw musically" was the way it moves between the "harsh and abrasive to the ambient and soothing in a matter of mere seconds". Punknews.org founder Aubin Paul said the album "delivers on the promise" of their debut "and then some". He added that there was "some serious intensity here, great powerful riffs, and a singer who can actually sing, and scream." Sputnikmusic staff member DaveyBoy said that while it wasn't the "most immediate album of all time", listeners would be "rewarded as Thursday get the best out of themselves here and hardly put a foot wrong". He praised the musicianship as being "top notch throughout, while the vocals are pleasingly satisfactory".

Ox-Fanzine reviewer Joachim Hiller found that Thursday had "two faces, which on the one hand comes across as super pop, [and] on the other hand relies on the 'Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde' principle when it comes to singing: sometimes gentle, sometimes screamy, then brutal".{{cite web|url=https://www.ox-fanzine.de/review/thursday-full-collapse-cd-17445|title=Reviews: Thursday / Full Collapse CD|work=Ox-Fanzine|author=Hiller, Joachim|date=June–August 2001|access-date=May 27, 2019|language=DE|archive-date=February 19, 2021|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210219152044/https://www.ox-fanzine.de/review/thursday-full-collapse-cd-17445|url-status=live}} Stuart Green of Exclaim! wrote that the album "sounds sort of like a jam session showdown between Quicksand and Sense Field". He adds that the band "take us on a wild 14-track ride that starts with the careening "Understanding In a Car Crash" and doesn't stop until some 40 minutes later."{{cite web|url=https://exclaim.ca/music/article/thursday-full_collapse|title=Thursday Full Collapse|work=Exclaim!|author=Green, Stuart|date=June 1, 2001|access-date=February 5, 2018|archive-date=February 6, 2018|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180206002600/https://exclaim.ca/music/article/thursday-full_collapse|url-status=live}} The staff at Manila Standard said hardcore fanatics would be "dissatisfied with the mingling of genres but Thursday handles the juggling act well".Anon. 2002, p. 21 Wondering Sound contributor Jonah Bayer said Rickly's "strikingly literary musings were packed with so much imagery and iconography that teens all over the country instantly latched onto these post-hardcore anthems".{{cite web|url=http://www.wonderingsound.com/review/thursday-full-collapse-2/|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160110170347/http://www.wonderingsound.com/review/thursday-full-collapse-2/|title=Thursday, Full Collapse|work=Wondering Sound|author=Bayer, Jonah|date=February 1, 2011|archive-date=January 10, 2016|access-date=February 19, 2021|url-status=dead}}

Rolling Stone{{'s}} Gavin Edwards found the band to be "peel[ing] the scab off endless varieties of pain" with their lyrics, tackling "heartbreak[, ...] watching a friend die[, ... and] even guilt over genocide". He noted that when the band's guitarwork becomes "slow and subdued, it's because the band is preparing to unleash a withering assault". AllMusic reviewer Kurt Morris wrote that while Thursday was "generating intelligent music", they do their "best to skirt the line of emo-pop without being unexciting or blasé". He said Rickly's vocals were "smooth yet not immature, strong while not being overbearing". Pitchfork contributor Eric Carr said that "after spending some quality time" with the album, he referred to it "as simply 'shit'. [...] Thursday does a few things right, but all in all, this could have been a much better album." Todd Burns of Stylus Magazine wrote that sections of tracks "exhibit obvious skill and technical proficiency, but are quickly ruined by Rickly's vocals or other elements that intrude on the small moments of interest". He says it was overall "a solid second effort for a band in this genre, but money would be best spent" on other albums.

Commercial performance and legacy

Full Collapse reached number 178 on the US Billboard 200. It charted at number ten on the Billboard Heatseekers Albums chart and number nine on the Independent Albums chart. In the first week of release, Full Collapse sold 800 copies,Greenwald 2003, p. 155 from the 3,400 that were originally shipped to stores.Cope 2002, p. 34 As of October 2008, it sold 380,000 copies.Anon. 2008, p. 46

In February 2009, Thursday announced that they would perform Full Collapse in its entirety for a one-off show on the Taste of Chaos tour.{{cite web|url=https://www.altpress.com/news/archive_6133/|title=Thursday to play Full Collapse in its entirety on RTOC|work=Alternative Press|date=February 27, 2009|access-date=August 4, 2017|archive-date=February 19, 2021|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210219152129/https://www.altpress.com/news/archive_6133/|url-status=live}} However, on the day of the show, the band cancelled.{{cite web|url=https://www.altpress.com/news/archive_6145/|title=Thursday's Full Collapse show tonight canceled|work=Alternative Press|date=March 2, 2009|access-date=August 4, 2017|archive-date=February 19, 2021|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210219152046/https://www.altpress.com/news/archive_6145/|url-status=live}} They eventually performed the album in October 2009, while in the midst of promoting their fifth studio album, Common Existence.{{cite web|url=https://www.punknews.org/article/34880/thursday-to-play-entirety-of-war-all-the-time-and-full-collapse-at-two-shows|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20221010182342/https://www.punknews.org/article/34880/thursday-to-play-entirety-of-war-all-the-time-and-full-collapse-at-two-shows|title=Thursday to play entirety of 'War All the Time' and 'Full Collapse' at two shows|publisher=Punknews.org|author=White, Adam|date=August 20, 2009|archivedate=October 10, 2022|access-date=October 10, 2022}}{{cite web|url=https://www.punknews.org/review/8758/thursday-far-midnight-masses-live-in-new-york|archiveurl=https://web.archive.org/web/20210511003506/https://www.punknews.org/review/8758/thursday-far-midnight-masses-live-in-new-york|title=Thursday / Far / Midnight Masses live in New York (2009)|publisher=Punknews.org|author=Shultz, Brian|date=October 27, 2009|archivedate=May 11, 2021|access-date=October 10, 2022}} To celebrate the tenth anniversary of Full Collapse, Thursday performed the album in its entirety throughout a US tour in 2011.{{cite web|url=https://idobi.com/news/thursday-to-celebrate-the-10th-anniversary-of-full-collapse-with-tour/|title=Thursday celebrates 'Full Collapse' 10th anniversary with tour|publisher=idobi|author=Gallo, Alexa|date=November 23, 2010|access-date=February 18, 2021|archive-date=August 7, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200807033949/https://idobi.com/news/thursday-to-celebrate-the-10th-anniversary-of-full-collapse-with-tour/|url-status=live}} In 2018, the band performed a run of two-night shows where they played Full Collapse on the first night and their third studio album, War All the Time (2003), on the other, in entirety.{{cite web|url=https://www.spin.com/2018/02/thursday-full-collapse-and-war-all-the-time-live-tour/|title=Thursday Announce Shows Performing Full Collapse and War All The Time|work=Spin|author=Cook-Wilson, Winston|date=February 1, 2018|access-date=February 5, 2018|archive-date=February 1, 2018|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180201182202/https://www.spin.com/2018/02/thursday-full-collapse-and-war-all-the-time-live-tour/|url-status=live}} In a 2010 interview, Rickly described the album's significance to both the band and its fans:

:Full Collapse was a record that changed the course and shape of my life. We began touring for it in basements and VFW halls, [...] and ended up as a full-time touring band meeting hundreds of thousands of people with whom we formed deep and lasting connections. Time passes and we embrace new music and different goals but, ten years later, Full Collapse continues to move people and for that we are very grateful. This tour is a celebration of those times and the end of a chapter in the life of Thursday.

According to Drowned in Sound, Full Collapse was "instantly hailed [as] an emo classic" upon release.{{cite web|url=http://drownedinsound.com:80/articles/8721.html|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20040216023036/http://drownedinsound.com/articles/8721.html|title=War All The Time|work=Drowned in Sound|author=Parrish, James|date=2004|archive-date=February 16, 2004|access-date=February 5, 2018}} It has influenced acts such as As Cities Burn, My Chemical Romance, Senses Fail, and This Day Forward (specifically their 2003 release In Response).{{cite web|url=https://www.nj.com/entertainment/music/2018/08/thursday_concert_review_nj_asbury_lanes_2018_full.html|title=Thursday celebrates 20 years of ravaging emo hearts with raging N.J. concert: review|publisher=NJ.com|author=Olivier, Bobby|date=May 14, 2019|access-date=February 18, 2021|archive-date=November 27, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20201127032435/https://www.nj.com/entertainment/music/2018/08/thursday_concert_review_nj_asbury_lanes_2018_full.html|url-status=live}}{{cite web|url=https://mixdownmag.com.au/features/columns/five-albums-that-shaped-as-cities-burn/|title=Five Albums That Shaped As Cities Burn|date=18 June 2019 |publisher=Mixdown|access-date=February 18, 2021|archive-date=February 19, 2021|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210219152048/https://mixdownmag.com.au/features/columns/five-albums-that-shaped-as-cities-burn/|url-status=live}}{{cite web|url=https://www.punknews.org/article/13675/editorspicks-this-day-forward|title=This Day Forward|publisher=Punknews.org|author=Shultz, Brian|date=September 4, 2005|access-date=November 8, 2021}} Rickly would describe Full Collapse as a "turning point record"{{cite web|url=http://www.rocksound.tv/features/article/thursday-qa-geoff-rickly|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120918115438/http://www.rocksound.tv/features/article/thursday-qa-geoff-rickly|title=Interviews: Thursday Q+A: Geoff Rickly|work=Rock Sound|author=Kelham, Andrew|date=March 10, 2011|archive-date=September 18, 2012|access-date=March 28, 2021}} and strongly favor it over most of the band's other work for both its passion and cohesive feel throughout.{{cite web|url=http://www.ampmagazine.com/24219/geoff-rickly-of-thursday-talks-about-the-break-up-being-a-writer-drinking-with-robert-smith-other-memorable-moments-and-reminisces-about-each-album/|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20121023202702/http://www.ampmagazine.com/24219/geoff-rickly-of-thursday-talks-about-the-break-up-being-a-writer-drinking-with-robert-smith-other-memorable-moments-and-reminisces-about-each-album/|title=Geoff Rickly of Thursday talks about the break up, being a writer, drinking with Robert Smith, other memorable moments, and reminisces about each album|work=AMP|author=Shrum, Tony|date=January 9, 2012|archive-date=October 23, 2012|access-date=March 28, 2021}} It has appeared on various best-of emo album lists, having been named in lists by Consequence of Sound,{{cite web|url=https://consequence.net/2020/03/crate-digging-emo/full-post/|title=10 Emo Albums Every Music Fan Should Own|work=Consequence of Sound|author=Chelosky, Ryan de|date=March 2, 2020|access-date=August 17, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200308195234/https://consequence.net/2020/03/crate-digging-emo/full-post/|archive-date=March 8, 2020|url-status=live}} Drowned in Sound,{{cite web|url=http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/3224257-united-by-emos-golden-age--a-reminder-of-rival-schools-peers|title=United by emo's Golden Age: a reminder of Rival Schools' peers / In Depth|work=Drowned in Sound|author=Diver, Mike|date=April 29, 2008|access-date=June 25, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200509184359/http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/3224257-united-by-emos-golden-age--a-reminder-of-rival-schools-peers|archive-date=May 9, 2020|url-status=live}} Houston Press,{{cite web|url=https://www.houstonpress.com/music/a-half-decade-under-the-influence-the-best-emo-albums-2001-2005-6757956|title=A Half-Decade Under the Influence: The Best Emo Albums, 2001-2005|work=Houston Press|author=DuPree, Alyssa|date=June 21, 2013|access-date=February 18, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20160410171706/https://www.houstonpress.com/music/a-half-decade-under-the-influence-the-best-emo-albums-2001-2005-6757956|archive-date=April 10, 2016|url-status=live}} Kerrang!,{{cite web|url=https://www.kerrang.com/features/the-25-greatest-emo-albums-ever/|title=The 25 Greatest Emo Albums Ever|work=Kerrang!|date=November 6, 2019|access-date=June 25, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200602230605/https://www.kerrang.com/features/the-25-greatest-emo-albums-ever/|archive-date=June 2, 2020|url-status=live}} NME,{{cite web|url=https://www.nme.com/photos/20-emo-albums-that-have-resolutely-stood-the-test-of-time/367692#/photo/6|title=20 Emo Albums That Have Resolutely Stood The Test Of Time|date=January 14, 2015|work=NME|access-date=July 29, 2015|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20150816064805/http://www.nme.com/photos/20-emo-albums-that-have-resolutely-stood-the-test-of-time/367692#/photo/6|archive-date=August 16, 2015|url-status=live}} and Rolling Stone,{{cite magazine|url=https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/40-greatest-emo-albums-of-all-time-23526/thursday-full-collapse-2001-160423/|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180808140047/https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/40-greatest-emo-albums-of-all-time-23526/thursday-full-collapse-2001-160423/|title=40 Greatest Emo Albums of All Time|magazine=Rolling Stone|author=Exposito, Suzy|date=March 1, 2016|archive-date=August 8, 2018|access-date=June 25, 2020}} as well as by journalists Leslie Simon and Trevor Kelley in their book Everybody Hurts: An Essential Guide to Emo Culture (2007).Simon; Kelley 2007, p. 172 Similarly, "Understanding in a Car Crash" appeared on a best-of emo songs lists by Stereogum{{cite web|url=https://www.stereogum.com/1685920/30-essential-songs-from-the-golden-era-of-emo/franchises/list/|title=30 Essential Songs From The Golden Era Of Emo|work=Stereogum|author=Fallon, Patric|date=July 22, 2014|access-date=June 25, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200529021811/https://www.stereogum.com/1685920/30-essential-songs-from-the-golden-era-of-emo/franchises/list/|archive-date=May 29, 2020|url-status=live}} and Vulture.{{cite web|url=https://www.vulture.com/article/best-emo-songs.html|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200213181251/https://www.vulture.com/article/best-emo-songs.html|title=The 100 Greatest Emo Songs of All Time|work=Vulture|author=Anthony, David|date=February 13, 2020|archive-date=February 13, 2020|access-date=August 14, 2020}} Alternative Press ranked "Understanding in a Car Crash" at number 10 on their list of the best 100 singles from the 2000s.{{cite web|url=https://www.punknews.org/article/36083/at-the-drive-ins-one-armed-scissor-tops-aps-haircut-100-singles-countdown|title=At The Drive-In's 'One Armed Scissor' tops AP's 'Haircut 100' singles countdown|publisher=Punknews.org|author=Paul, Aubin|date=November 20, 2009|access-date=October 13, 2022}} The track has been covered by Wolves at the Gate for their Back to School (2013) EP.{{cite web|url=https://www.jesusfreakhideout.com/cdreviews/BackToSchoolEP.asp|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210613181301/https://www.jesusfreakhideout.com/cdreviews/BackToSchoolEP.asp|title=Wolves at the Gate, 'Back To School EP' Review|publisher=Jesus Freak Hideout|author=Lambert, Aaron|date=October 18, 2013|archive-date=June 13, 2021|access-date=September 22, 2022}}

Track listing

Track listing per booklet.

{{Track listing

| title1 = A0001

| length1 = 0:36

| title2 = Understanding in a Car Crash

| length2 = 4:24

| title3 = Concealer

| length3 = 2:19

| title4 = Autobiography of a Nation

| length4 = 3:55

| title5 = A Hole in the World

| length5 = 3:27

| title6 = Cross Out the Eyes

| length6 = 4:08

| title7 = Paris in Flames

| length7 = 4:33

| title8 = I Am the Killer

| length8 = 3:35

| title9 = Standing on the Edge of Summer

| length9 = 3:42

| title10 = Wind-Up

| length10 = 4:23

| title11 = How Long Is the Night?

| length11 = 5:45

| title12 = i1100

| length12 = 1:40

| total_length = 42:30

}}

Personnel

Personnel per booklet.{{cite AV media notes|title=Full Collapse|author=Thursday|year=2001|type=booklet|publisher=Victory Records|id=VR145}}

{{col-begin}}

{{col-2}}

Thursday

  • Geoff Rickly – vocals
  • Tom Keeley – lead guitar
  • Steve Pedulla – rhythm guitar
  • Tim Payne – bass
  • Tucker Rule – drums

Additional musicians

  • Erin Farley – additional guitar on "Understanding in a Car Crash"
  • Tim Giles – strings and melotone on "Paris in Flames"
  • Frank Giokas – additional guitar on "Standing on the Edge of Summer"
  • Thomas Schlatter – additional vocals on "Autobiography of a Nation" and "Cross Out the Eyes"
  • Sal Villanueva – additional guitar on "Autobiography of a Nation" and "Wind-Up"
  • Joe Darone – additional vocals on "Autobiography of a Nation"

{{col-2}}

Production and design

  • Sal Villanueva – producer
  • Tim Giles – engineer, mixing
  • Erin Farley – engineer
  • Codie Brown – assistant engineer
  • Timo G. Less – mastering
  • Mike Chapman – cover photos
  • Dennis Keeley – center photo
  • Thursday – design, art direction
  • Patrick Larson – design, art direction

{{col-end}}

Charts

class="wikitable sortable plainrowheaders"

|+Chart performance for Full Collapse

! Chart (2001) !! Peak
position

{{album chart|Billboard200|178|artist=Thursday|rowheader=true|access-date=February 19, 2021|refname=Bill200}}
{{album chart|BillboardHeatseekers|10|artist=Thursday|rowheader=true|access-date=February 19, 2021|refname=BillHeat}}
{{album chart|BillboardIndependent|9|artist=Thursday|rowheader=true|access-date=February 19, 2021|refname=BillInde}}

References

Citations

{{Reflist}}

Sources

{{refbegin}}

  • {{cite journal|author=Anon.|title=Underground music for the mainstream|journal=Manila Standard|date=April 24, 2002|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=12UVAAAAIBAJ&pg=PA68}}
  • {{cite magazine|author=Anon.|title=Latest Buzz|magazine=Billboard|date=October 11, 2008|issue=41|volume=120|publisher=Prometheus Global Media|issn=0006-2510|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=IBQEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA46|access-date=September 23, 2020|archive-date=February 19, 2021|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210219152047/https://books.google.com/books?id=IBQEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA46|url-status=live}}
  • {{cite journal|author=Adored, Ivana B.|title=Post Modern|journal=Hits|date=June 7, 2002|issue=797|volume=18|oclc=15994494|url=https://www.worldradiohistory.com/Archive-All-Music/Hits/00s/2002/Hits-2002-06-07.pdf}}
  • {{cite journal|editor1-last=Bird|editor1-first=Ryan|title=The 200 Moments that Defined Our Lifetime|journal=Rock Sound|date=June 2015|issue=200|publisher=Freeway Press Inc.|location=London|issn=1465-0185}}
  • {{cite magazine|last=Cope|first=Mark|title=Points of Impact|magazine=CMJ New Music Report|date=January 28, 2002|issue=747|volume=70|issn=0890-0795|url=https://www.worldradiohistory.com/Archive-All-Music/CMJ/2002/CMJ-747-2002.pdf}}
  • {{cite book|last1=Greenwald|first1=Andy|title=Nothing Feels Good: Punk Rock, Teenagers, and Emo|url=https://archive.org/details/nothingfeelsgood0000gree|url-access=registration|date=2003|publisher=St. Martin's Press|location=New York|isbn=9781466834927}}
  • {{cite book|last1=Simon|first1=Leslie|last2=Kelley|first2=Trevor|title=Everybody Hurts: An Essential Guide to Emo Culture|year=2007|publisher=HarperEntertainment|location=New York City|isbn=978-0-06-119539-6}}

{{refend}}