Sally Go 'Round the Roses
{{Short description|1963 song by The Jaynetts}}
{{Infobox song
| name = Sally Go 'Round the Roses
| cover = Sally_Go_'Round_the_Roses_-_The_Jaynetts.jpg
| alt =
| type = single
| artist = the Jaynetts
| album = Sally Go 'Round the Roses
| B-side = Instrumental
| released = August 1963
| recorded = 1963
| studio = Broadway Recording Studios (Manhattan)
| venue =
| genre =
- R&B
- pop{{cite book|first= Garth|last= Cartwright|editor-first= Robert |editor-last= Dimery |year= 2015 |title= 1001 Songs You Must Hear Before You Die|chapter= The Jaynetts - "Sally Go 'Round the Roses|publisher= Universe|location= New York|page= 134}}
| length = 3:04
| label = Tuff
| writer = Lona Stevens, Zell Sanders
| producer = Abner Spector (1917–2010)
| prev_title = Be My Boyfriend
| prev_year = 1958
| next_title = Keep an Eye on Her
| next_year = 1963
}}
"Sally Go 'Round the Roses" is the name of a 1963 hit by the Jaynetts, a Bronx-based one-hit wonder girl group, released by J&S Records on the Tuff label.
Background
The producer of "Sally Go 'Round the Roses", Abner Spector, was an A&R man for the Chicago-based Chess Records. Spector was responsible for The Corsairs' 1962 number 12 hit "Smoky Places", which had been released on Tuff, a subsidiary of J&S Records. In the summer of 1963, Spector asked J&S owner, Zelma "Zell" Sanders, to assemble a vocal ensemble to record a girl group style record, to which end Sanders wrote the song "Sally..." with Spector's wife Lona Stevens, drawing inspiration from the nursery rhyme "Ring around the Rosie". The songwriting copyright for "Sally..." is now in the name of Abner Spector who died in 2010; Zell Sanders died in 1976.{{cite web|url=http://www.poparchives.com.au/feature.php?id=922|title=Where Did They Get That Song|website=Poparchives.com|access-date=2012-04-18}}
The arrangement for "Sally Go 'Round the Roses" was provided by Artie Butler, who recalls Spector "asked me to listen to [the] song...[I] decided that in its present form it did not [have potential], but I heard something in my head. He said, 'Go into a small demo studio and do what you hear', and he would pay for it." Butler says that he prepped the backing track for "Sally..." at Broadway Recording Studios in the Ed Sullivan Theater; in spite of it being widely reported that Buddy Miles is the drummer, Butler claims that, except for the guitar parts (by Al Gorgoni and Carl Lynch), he played all the instruments on the track. Butler states the entire recording of "Sally..." was done "on an old Ampex tape machine at 7{{frac|1|2}} IPS mono....Each time when I added another element" – including the final element: the vocalists – "I added a different type of reverb. Each generation [ie. development] seemed to add to the distinct sound of the record."{{cite web|url=http://www.artiebutler.com/sally.html|title=Sally Go 'Round the Roses|website=Artiebutler.com|access-date=2012-04-18}}
Besides the five vocalists credited in the group which Zell Sanders assembled to record "Sally Go 'Round the Roses" (Yvonne Bushnell, Ethel Davis (aka Vernell Hill), Ada Ray Kelly, Johnnie Louise Richardson and Mary Sue Wells (aka Mary Sue Wellington/Mary Green Wilson)), at least five other vocalists are known to be featured on the track: Selena Healey, Marie Hood, Marlene Jenkins (aka Marlina Mack/Marlina Mars), Louise Harris Murray, Lezli Valentine and Iggy Williams have been identified as participating in the recording sessions for "Sally...".{{cite web|url=http://www.soulfulkindamusic.net/jaynettes.htm|title=Soulful Kind of Music – The Jaynetts|website=Soulfulkindmusic.com|access-date=2012-04-18}} The recording sessions took place over a week, running up of costs of $60,000, then an exorbitant amount of time and money for a single track. According to Johnnie Louise Richardson: "Anybody that came in the studio that week, [Spector] would put them on [the track]. Originally, I think he had about 20 voices on 'Sally.'"{{cite web|url=http://www.history-of-rock.com/jaynetts.htm|title=The Jaynetts|website=History-of-rock.com|access-date=2012-04-18}}
Butler's recollection is that Spector only heard the "Sally Go 'Round the Roses" track when it was completed and "hated it. He was really angry. He felt that I wasted his money." Butler played the track for Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller, who offered to buy it from Spector: the interest of the duo caused Spector to reassess "Sally...", which he had Sanders release as a single credited to 'the Jaynetts', with the instrumental track as the B-side. Butler claimed his only return for arranging "Sally..." was being credited as the arranger on the record: a 1971 Billboard article states that Butler's arrangement of "Sally..." did earn him $3.Billboard vol 83 #45 (6 Nov 1971) page 20
The recording engineer of "Sally Go 'Round the Roses" was John P. "Jack" Sullivan.
Reception
"Sally Go 'Round the Roses" had its first major market breakout in San Francisco, its ringing arrangement being a precursor of the San Francisco Sound. The song was a favorite number of Grace Slick when she fronted the Great Society, her pre-Jefferson Airplane outfit, and it was a formative influence on Laura Nyro.{{cite book |title=Soul Picnic: the Music Soul & Passion of Laura Nyro |last=Kort |first=Michele |year=2002 |publisher=Thomas Dunne Books |location=New York |isbn=0-312-20941-X |page=[https://archive.org/details/isbn_9780312209414/page/15 15] |url=https://archive.org/details/isbn_9780312209414/page/15 |url-access=registration }}
"Sally Go 'Round the Roses" peaked at number 2 on the Billboard Hot 100 dated 28 September 1963, remaining at number 2 on the Hot 100 dated 5 October, both weeks kept out of the top slot by "Blue Velvet" by Bobby Vinton. On the Music Vendor Top 40 dated 12 October 1963, "Sally Go 'Round the Roses" was ranked at number 1. In the Cash Box Top 100, it reached the number 3 spot on 28 September 1963, its highest position; it remained there for another week (5 October 1963). It was also a hit in France, reaching number 7 with a 17-week chart run,{{cite web |url=http://infodisc.fr/Bilan_J.php |title=InfoDisc : Tout les Titres par Artiste |website=Infodisc.fr |date= |access-date=2012-04-18 |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20120420091022/http://www.infodisc.fr/Bilan_J.php |archive-date=2012-04-20 }} and reached number 2 in New Zealand. In Canada it was number 6 for 2 weeks starting September 30, 1963.{{cite web|url=http://chumtribute.com/63-09-30-chart.jpg| title=CHUM Hit Parade - September 30, 1963}}
Tuff released a Sally Go 'Round the Roses album which, despite the group being promoted as a quintet, displayed a cover image of a trio, only two of whom, Ethel Davis and Lezli Valentine, are identifiable. Besides the title cut, in both vocal and instrumental versions, and the follow-up single "Keep an Eye on Her", the album featured "Archie's Melody", "Bongo Bobby", "I Wanna Know", "No Love at All", "One Track Mind", "Pick Up My Marbles", "School Days" and "See Saw". Also featured as 'a special guest appearance' was "Dear Abby", credited to the Hearts, a minor hit (number 94) recorded by at least some of the same personnel who were involved with "Sally...".
Billboard placed the song at number 78 on its list of 100 Greatest Girl Group Songs of All Time.{{cite web|title=100 Greatest Girl Group Songs of All Time: Critics' Picks|url=http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7857816/100-greatest-girl-group-songs|publisher=Billboard|access-date=July 11, 2017}}
Interpretations
{{Rquote|1=right|2=Sally go round the roses
(Sally go round the pretty roses)
They won't tell your secret
(they won't tell your secret) |3=Lona Stevens, Zell Sanders |4="Sally Go 'Round the Roses"{{cite web |url=http://www.lyricsfreak.com/j/jaynetts/sally+go+round+the+roses_20770731.html |title=Jaynetts – Sally, Go 'Round The Roses Lyrics |work=LyricsFreak |access-date=December 14, 2015}}}}
"Sally Go 'Round the Roses" was unlike other pop songs of the day, with a spooky, even ominous, musical ambiance{{cite book |last=Marsh |first=Dave |author-link=Dave Marsh |title=The Heart of Rock & Soul: The 1001 Greatest Singles Ever Made |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=OGNPTZplEvQC&pg=PA258 |access-date=December 14, 2015 |year=1989 |publisher=Plume |isbn=978-0-452-26305-5 |pages=258–259 |quote=Spookiest and most exotic of all girl group discs... Zell Sanders' song operates as a metaphor, but the metaphor is murky... Superficially, Sally's friends are just warning her against going downtown, because there she'll find the 'saddest thing in the whole wide world', her baby with another girl. But the mix and arrangement and the odd metaphor of the endlessly repeated chorus... lend the entire production an ominous air, as if some deeper tale waits to be told.}}{{cite book |last=Pike |first=Jeff |title=The Death of Rock 'N' Roll: Untimely Demises, Morbid Preoccupations, and Premature Forecasts of Doom in Pop Music |url=https://archive.org/details/deathofrocknroll0000pike/page/110 |access-date=December 14, 2015 |year=1993 |publisher=Faber & Faber |isbn=978-0-571-19808-5 |pages=[https://archive.org/details/deathofrocknroll0000pike/page/110 110–112] |quote=No, there is something infinitely more disturbing about the Jaynetts song... Generation loss and studio improvising had created a lush, eerie sound that can never be replicated... The maddening, inescapable question is: What is this song about?... On the face of it, 'Sally, Go 'Round the Roses' seems to be a simple enough story... about a girl who has discovered her lover is untrue and now grieves... [But] Sally has a secret, which the singers promise the roses won't tell... No questions are ever answered but many interpretations beyond its face value have been advanced. Some claim it is Sally's moment of truth about her own homosexuality. Others see in it a suicide scenario. Some believe it recounts an overwhelming spiritual experience of some kind, perhaps one that drives her mad. }} heightened by the sometimes odd and opaque lyrics, which gave the song a mysterious feeling that probably accounted in part for its popularity,{{cite book |last=Davis |first=Deborah |title=The Trip: Andy Warhol's Plastic Fantastic Cross-Country Adventure |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=fEAjBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA139 |access-date=December 14, 2015 |year=2015 |publisher=Atria Books |isbn=978-1-4767-0351-0 |page=139 |quote=It sounded like a typical teenage lament, but there was something mysterious... that suggested drugs, or even an illegitimate baby, to some listeners. Oddly, there were even theories that 'Sally' alluded to a surreptitious lesbian relationship. Whatever it meant, it was the cool song that September – the one with deep, impenetrable meanings...}}{{cite book |last=Rosenberg |first=Stuart |title=Rock and Roll and the American Landscape: The Birth of an Industry and the Expansion of the Popular Culture, 1955–1969 |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=736Mu91q_fcC&pg=PA63 |access-date=December 14, 2015 |year=2008 |publisher=iUniverse |isbn=978-1-4401-6458-3 |page=63 |quote=Its significance was that it was one of the first songs where the public was not sure of the subject of the song... questions abounded whether the song was about lesbianism... The achievement of the song was its ambiguity.}}{{cite book |last=Clemente |first=John |title=Girl Groups: Fabulous Females Who Rocked the World |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=Y3_ctCvFZDoC&pg=PA286 |access-date=December 14, 2015 |year=2013 |publisher=Authorhouse |isbn= 9781477281284|page=286 |quote='Sally Go 'Round the Roses' took its bizarre message all the way to... becoming a national hit.}} and which has led to speculation on the meaning of the song. "Sally Go 'Round the Roses" could be interpreted as a conventional song of heartbreak over cheating, or it could be – and has been – seen as alluding to deeper matters, including drug use, illegitimate motherhood, madness, suicide, or, most especially, lesbianism.{{cite book |last=Lipsitz |first=George |title=Time Passages: Collective Memory and American Popular Culture |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=dAIDvUmJ5X4C&pg=PA115 |access-date=December 14, 2015 |year=2001 |publisher=University of Minnesota Press |isbn=978-0-8166-3881-9 |page=115 |quote=[S]eemingly mysterious references in the Jaynetts' 1963 'Sally Go 'Round the Roses' describes a lesbian relationship to maximally competent listeners.}}{{cite book |last=Weldon |first=Michael J. |title=The Psychotronic Video Guide To Film |url=https://books.google.com/books?id=nhjsnWfFoiAC&pg=PA542 |access-date=December 14, 2015 |year=1996 |publisher=St. Martin's Griffin |isbn=978-0-312-13149-4 |page=542 |quote=[T]he haunting 'Sally Go 'Round the Roses' by the Jaynettes, always rumored to be a lesbian theme, is on the soundtrack.}}
Tim Buckley builds on this latter notion on his song "Sally, Go 'Round the Roses" from his 1973 album Sefronia. Although the song contains many new lyrics not in the original (and credits only Buckley as the songwriter), it begins with a version of Sanders' song but with the lyric "Sally don't you go, don't you go downtown; saddest thing in the whole wide world is to see your baby with another girl" replaced with "Oh Sally don't you go down, oh darlin' don't you go downtown; Honey the saddest thing in the whole wide world is to find your woman been with another girl".{{cite AV media |people=Tim Buckley (performer) |date=November 27, 1973 |title=Sally Go 'Round the Roses |medium=Television production |url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tME1oi6yFbc |archive-url=https://ghostarchive.org/varchive/youtube/20211213/tME1oi6yFbc |archive-date=2021-12-13 |url-status=live|access-date=December 14, 2015 |format=Flash video |time=1:26 |location=New York City |publisher=Radio Station WLR}}{{cbignore}}{{cite web |url=https://genius.com/Tim-buckley-sally-go-round-the-roses-lyrics |title=Sally Go Round The Roses |website=Genius.com |access-date=December 14, 2015}}{{Better source needed|reason=Lyics sites are not very reliable, and this one, which claims to be "crowdsourced " is thus even more suspect. Still, it has the correct lyrics from the album and other lyrics sites don't seem to. |date=December 2015}}
Other versions
{{Infobox song
| name = Sally Go 'Round the Roses
| cover =
| alt =
| border =
| type = single
| artist = The Great Society
| album = Conspicuous Only in its Absence
| B-side =
| released = 1968
| recorded = 1966
| studio =
| venue =
| genre = Psychedelic rock
| length =
| label = Columbia
| writer = Lona Stevens, Zell Sanders
| producer =
| prev_title = Somebody to Love
}}
{{Infobox song
| name = Sally Go 'Round the Roses
| cover =
| alt =
| type = single
| artist = Donna Gaines
| album =
| B-side = So Said The Man
| released = 1971
| recorded =
| studio =
| venue =
| genre =
- Soul{{Cite podcast|url=https://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/hit_parade/2017/11/donna_summer_s_three_decade_chart_reign.html|title= Queen of Disco Edition|website=Hit Parade {{!}} Music History and Music Trivia|publisher=Slate|last=Molanphy|first=Chris|date=November 27, 2017|access-date=July 12, 2023}}
- funk
| length = 4:17
| label = MCA
| writer = Lona Stevens, Zell Sanders
| producer = Vince Melouney
| prev_title = If You Walkin' Alone
| prev_year = 1969
| next_title = Denver Dream
| next_year = 1974
}}
A 1966 performance of the song by Grace Slick is featured on Conspicuous Only in its Absence, the Great Society's live album released in 1968. The recording was released as a single by Columbia Records in 1968 and got some Top 40 airplay, but failed to chart.
In the UK, where the Jaynetts' single had a non-charting 1963 release on Stateside Records, "Sally Go 'Round the Roses" was first covered by Lyn Cornell, which had an October 1963 release on Decca: this version also failed to chart, as did later covers by the Remo Four in May 1964, and Dee King in April 1966, both on Piccadilly Records. "Sally..." would gain its highest UK profile when recorded by Pentangle in 1969, for their hit album Basket of Light; "Sally..." was employed as B-side for the 1970 US single release of the Basket of Light track, "Light Flight", which had charted in the UK but with a different B-side ("Cold Mountain").
A French language version of "Sally Go 'Round the Roses", rendered by Jacques Plante [not the hockey player of the same name] as "Rose (Parmi Les Roses)" (Rose among roses), was recorded in the autumn of 1963 by both Richard Anthony;Billboard vol 75 #48 (30 November 1963) p.32 Anthony's version became the hit in 1963–64 reaching number 3 in France and also – as a double A-side hit with "Tchin Tchin" – number 4 in Belgium (Wallonia).Billboard vol 75 #52 (28 December 1963) p.16 Nana Mouskouri, who also recorded "Rose (Parmi Les Roses)", recorded the Italian rendering "Rosa tra le rose", which charted in Italy at number 32 in 1965.
Joan Baez is shown singing a fragment of "Sally Go 'Round the Roses" in the 1967 film Don't Look Back.
In Australia, Doug Parkinson and the Questions had a hit with "Sally Go 'Round the Roses", reaching number 33 in 1967.
A version of "Sally Go Round The Roses" was also the first single release by the American singer Donna Summer, then known as Donna Gaines. Gaines recorded the track in a session in London, produced by former Bee Gees' guitarist Vince Melouney, also recording the Melouney original "So Said the Man", which served as the single's B-side. "Sally..." by Donna Gaines was issued as a one-off 1971 release on MCA Records in the UK (with catalog# MK 5060) and Europe with no evident result.{{cite web|url=http://www.annecarlini.com/ex_interviews.php?id=247 |title=Exclusive Magazine |publisher=Anne Carlini |date= |access-date=2012-04-18}} Bob Stanley describes Gaines' version as "minimalist funk".{{cite book |last1=Stanley |first1=Bob |title=Bee Gees: Children of the World |date=2023 |publisher=Nine Eight Books |location=London |page=149 |isbn=978-1-7887-0541-7 |chapter=Odessa}}
"Sally Go 'Round the Roses" has also been recorded by Sunshine Ward on RCA Records in 1967, as well as Question Mark & the Mysterians, Jon Spencer Blues Explosion, Pentangle (on the album Basket of light), Judy Collins (on Portrait of an American Girl 2005), Yvonne Elliman,{{Cite web|url=https://www.discogs.com/Yvonne-Elliman-Night-Flight/master/335463|title=Yvonne Elliman - Night Flight|website=Discogs.com|year=1978 |access-date=16 April 2021}} Fanny, Holly Golightly, the Ikettes (B-side of "(Never More) Lonely For You" – December 1965), Alannah Myles, Asha Puthli, Normie Rowe, Sarah June (2010), Mitch Ryder, Susanna Hoffs,{{Cite web|url=https://open.spotify.com/album/5wxLoqesIuYeqiLj59UG33|title=From Me to You|accessdate=16 April 2021|website=Open.spotify.com}} Voice Farm and – as an instrumental – by Henry Kaiser. The soundtrack for the 1999 film A Walk on the Moon featured a remake of "Sally..." by Damnations TX. Anny Celsi remade "Sally Go 'Round the Roses" for her 2009 album Tangle Free World: Celsi's version features Evie Sands as a backup vocalist. The Del-Byzanteens also covered this song on the album Lies To Live By in 1982.
Patti Scialfa's self-penned song "The Word" on her 2007 album Play It as It Lays references the lyrics of "Sally Go 'Round the Roses" and acknowledges the source.
Tim Buckley included a song entitled "Sally, Go 'Round the Roses" on his 1973 Sefronia album, which begins with extensive quotes from the Jaynettes' song, although it adds many new lyrics and is credited only to Buckley as sole songwriter.
The Third Mind covered "Sally, Go 'Round the Roses" on their second album released in 2023 "The Third Mind 2," featuring Jesse Sykes (acoustic guitar, vocals); Dave Alvin (electric guitar); Victor Krummenacher (bass guitar); David Immerglück (guitar/harmonium/mellotron); and Michael Jerome (drums/percussion). The band played the song on their early 2024 tour, with Mark Karan replacing David Immerglück on guitar.
See also
References
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External links
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{{Donna Summer discography}}
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