Sublime with Rome

In 1997, Bud Gaugh and Eric Wilson started Long Beach Dub Allstars, their first project since Bradley Nowell's death. The band played Sublime songs as well as new material. After Long Beach Dub Allstars split up in 2002, Wilson went on to form Long Beach Shortbus, while Gaugh went on to form Eyes Adrift and Volcano (which both featured Meat Puppets guitarist/vocalist Curt Kirkwood).

In February 2009 Gaugh and Wilson reunited for a show in Sparks, Nevada at the Cantina Los Tres Hombres and called themselves Sublime. They were joined by a new singer-guitarist whose identity was not announced; on March 1, 2009, Gaugh confirmed this was then-20-year-old Northern California native Rome Ramirez, who had previously collaborated with Wilson on RAWsession where he played Sublime songs such as "Saw Red" and "Boss DJ".[http://www.myspace.com/budgaugh/blog/473896028 Del Mar & Sublime]. Last accessed February 4, 2010. The trio played another show at Cypress Hill's Smokeout Festival on October 24, 2009 in San Bernardino, California. The festival also featured performances from Kottonmouth Kings, Slipknot, Deftones, Bad Brains and Pennywise.{{cite magazine|url=http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/267549/sublime-to-reunite-for-cypress-hills-smokeout-fest |title=Sublime To Reunite For Cypress Hill's Smokeout Fest |magazine=Billboard |access-date=July 15, 2015}}

On October 23, 2009, one day before the Smokeout Festival concert took place, Nowell's family and the executors of his estate threatened Gaugh and Wilson, along with Ramirez, with a lawsuit if the reconstituted band continued to use the Sublime moniker. The statement was posted to the band's official MySpace page and read as follows:

{{cquote|It was recently announced that Sublime bassist Eric Wilson and Sublime drummer Floyd 'Bud' Gaugh are 'reuniting' and teaming with singer and guitarist Rome Ramirez in a band they intend to call 'Sublime.' Prior to his untimely passing, both Bud and Eric acknowledged that Brad Nowell was the sole owner of the name Sublime. It was Brad's expressed intention that no one use the name Sublime in any group that did not include him, and Brad even registered the trademark 'Sublime' under his own name.

As Brad's heirs, and with the support of his entire family, we only want to respect his wishes and therefore have not consented to Bud and Eric calling their new project 'Sublime.' We have always supported Bud and Eric's musical endeavors and their desire to continue to play Sublime's music. We wholeheartedly supported Bud, Eric and the many talented members of the Sublime posse that formed the Long Beach Dub All-Stars, soon after Brad's death, to honor him through their original recordings, live performances and Sublime music until they disbanded in 2001. But, out of respect for Brad's wishes, we have always refused to endorse any group performing as 'Sublime,' and now with great reluctance feel compelled to take the appropriate legal action to protect Brad's legacy.

Our hope is that Brad's ex-bandmates will respect his wishes and find a new name to perform under, so as to enhance the 'Sublime' legacy without the confusion and disappointment that many fans have expressed upon seeing the announcement.{{cite magazine|url=http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/266950/sublime-reunion-show-sparks-controversy |title=Sublime Reunion Show Sparks Controversy |magazine=Billboard |date=October 23, 2009 |access-date=July 15, 2015}}}}

On November 3, 2009, a Los Angeles judge shut down an effort by the new lineup of Sublime to perform under the name. Jeremiah Reynolds, who represents the estate of original Sublime singer Bradley Nowell commented on the case:

:{{cquote|The point we tried to make is that we encourage these gentlemen to go out and play. We think they're great musicians. We just don't think it's appropriate to call a group that doesn't have Bradley [Nowell] and has a new lead singer Sublime. It's consistent with Brad's intentions that we seek to protect the name. The court agreed that Bud and Eric and the new lead singer didn't have the right to go out and call themselves Sublime.[http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2009/11/court-injunction-could-halt-sublime-reunion-.html Judge's ruling could put a damper on a Sublime reunion]. Last accessed February 4, 2010.}}

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As part of the preliminary injunction, the new lineup are said to be unable to perform or record under the name Sublime without approval and permission from the Nowell estate. A spokesman for Gaugh and Wilson declined to comment. Thomas Brackey, who represents the surviving Sublime members, did not return calls. The injunction is dependent upon a bond of $125,000 being posted in the event it is later determined that the defendants – the surviving Sublime members – suffered damages as a result of the ruling. Reynolds said the bond would be posted. Gaugh and Wilson issued the following statement:

{{cquote|Our goal continues to be sharing the music and message of Sublime with all of our fans around the world. We intend to take the court's advice and work on a business solution to this issue. We hope the estate follows suit so the music of Sublime can live on and be accessible to everyone.}}

In January 2010, the dispute was settled and it was announced that the new lineup of Ramirez, Wilson and Gaugh would perform together under Sublime with Rome.[http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/2010/01/breaking_sublime_lawuit_settle.php BREAKING: Sublime Lawsuit Settled; Showdates Planned] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110517100325/http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmentality/2010/01/breaking_sublime_lawuit_settle.php |date=May 17, 2011 }}. Last accessed February 12, 2010.

Asked in October 2009 about the future of the project, Gaugh replied:

{{cquote|It'd be great to get back into the studio and make some new music. It'd be great to tour again. But we're taking it a step at a time and as long as each step feels good, then we'll keep on going. One major project under development that we're psyched about is code-named "Brad's House." The idea is to provide free addiction recovery service to underprivileged teens in Brad's honor. The entire Sublime family was devastated by Brad's loss and we would like to help prevent that from happening to others. The band has agreed to allocate proceeds to get this started. We'll begin with one facility but our hope is that we can get other bands and organizations to join us and we can eventually scale it all across the country.[http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=505174946&blogId=515364208 A Q&A with Sublime founding member/drummer Bud Gaugh] {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20090207065936/http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view |date=February 7, 2009 }}. Last accessed February 4, 2010.}}

In February 2010, the band confirmed numerous North American dates, as well as plans to tour Europe in May.{{cite magazine|url=http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/959265/sublime-settles-on-new-band-name-plots-tour |title=Sublime Settles on New Band Name, Plots Tour |magazine=Billboard.com |date=September 14, 2009 |access-date=September 28, 2011}} However, as of June 2010, a European tour in May never came to fruition. Sublime with Rome live shows include Todd Forman on sax and keyboards; Forman was the original sax player on past Sublime studio albums.

Gaugh told Billboard.com that new material from Sublime with Rome was in the cards.{{Clarify|date=July 2011}} The trio wrote three new songs when it first started playing together in February 2009, including one, "Panic", that was performed at all three shows they had done so far. He explained, "We're gonna continue working on material as we're on the road. It's not without question to have a studio in one of the buses while we're on tour. We do a lot of our best creativity on stage, so we'll be trying out new stuff for the fans, even before we go into the studio."

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In May 2010, Gaugh revealed to Billboard.com that Sublime with Rome would enter the studio in June for a week "and nail down some of the more worked-out songs, and possibly even finish one or two of them for a late summer radio release". The band was expected to have the album out in 2011. On February 5, 2011, Sublime with Rome announced on their official website that they were planning to enter the studio in March to begin recording their debut album, with Butthole Surfers guitarist Paul Leary producing.{{cite web|url=http://www.sublimewithrome.com/ |title=Sublime with Rome |publisher=Sublime with Rome |access-date=September 28, 2011}} Ramirez had said several collaborations were being considered. "There will be special guests and some collaborations as well, like one with Aimee Allen."{{cite web|url=http://www.musicemissions.com/blog/index.php/2011/04/11/music-emisisons-interview-sublime-with-rome/ |title=Interview with Rome Ramirez |publisher=Music Emissions |access-date=September 28, 2011}}

On February 21, 2011, the band posted a statement on their Facebook page saying that they had begun recording the album and would be posting "mad videos" to "let everyone know where to go for a behind the scenes look at the Sublime with Rome process."{{cite web|url=http://www.facebook.com/sublimewithrome |title=Niet compatibele browser |publisher=Facebook |access-date=September 28, 2011}} On April 14, 2011, Ramirez posted an update on Sublime with Rome's official website saying that the album was almost finished and projected a summer release. During the summer 2010 tour, Sublime with Rome performed their first new song "Panic" on Jimmy Kimmel Live!.{{cite web|url=http://puregrainaudio.com/news/sublime-with-rome-debut-new-song-panic-on-jimmy-kimmel-live |title=SUBLIME WITH ROME Debut New Song "Panic" on Jimmy Kimmel Live " News " |publisher=Puregrainaudio.com |access-date=September 28, 2011}} It was also announced that Sublime with Rome officially signed to record label Fueled by Ramen and released their debut album Yours Truly on July 12, 2011.{{cite web|title=Sublime with Rome Signs to Fueled by Ramen|url=http://www.sublimewithrome.com|publisher=Sublime with Rome|access-date=March 20, 2011}}

On December 10, 2011, at the KROQ Almost Acoustic Christmas, the band announced that it would be the last performance with drummer Bud Gaugh, who would be leaving the group to spend more time with his family as he was expecting a child. Josh Freese filled in for some performances on a temporary basis, before officially joining the band. On January 12, 2012, in an interview posted on budztv.com,{{cite web|url=http://www.budztv.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=2&Itemid=2 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20110111051402/http://www.budztv.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=2&Itemid=2 |url-status=usurped |archive-date=January 11, 2011 |title=Bud Gaugh Exclusive Interview by Erik Schaefer of SWRfans.com |publisher=budztv.com |access-date=January 12, 2012}} Gaugh expressed regrets about touring and recording with Sublime with Rome stating:

:{{cquote| In hindsight I would not have used the name. I didn't want to in the first place, I was talked into it and I would like to apologize to certain people and the fans for trying to justify or talk them into it as well. The recording was awkward, It felt rushed, felt like I was playing someone else's parts/songs. Other than "Panic", "Paper Cuts", and "Safe and Sound", it pretty much was. Some of the parts that were added after the fact really ruined some of the songs for me, for my liking. I also never agreed to do extensive touring for three years straight so that soured me on this thing.}}

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When asked if he saw the band reuniting in the future Gaugh replied, "No, I am done with SWR. I would be into playing music with Eric Wilson, however."

When asked how it felt to play Sublime songs again, Gaugh said, "It was really good for the first few months, after that, it just felt wrong. Not playing the songs but playing them with the name Sublime, without Brad."

Despite this, Sublime with Rome continued to tour, with Josh Freese taking Gaugh's place.

By 2013, Sublime with Rome was expected to return to the studio to record their second album.{{cite web|url=http://ieweekly.com/2013/06/music-2/music/musical-riot/ |title=Musical Riot |publisher=ieweekly.com |date=June 3, 2013 |access-date=June 3, 2013}} On May 13, 2015, the first single from then-upcoming album Sirens, titled "Wherever You Go", was released on YouTube. A second single was released on YouTube and iTunes, titled "Sirens (Feat. The Dirty Heads)", on June 29, 2015. Sirens was released on July 17, 2015.{{cite web|url=https://www.facebook.com/Romemusica/photos/a.152325034802112.32192.151949141506368/969713956396545/?type=1&theater/ |title=Sirens Announced |publisher=Sublime With Rome |date=May 13, 2015 |access-date=May 13, 2015}}

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In early 2017, Josh Freese was replaced by former Tribal Seeds drummer Carlos Verdugo.{{cite web|url=http://www.theislandsound.com/2017/01/sublime-with-rome-new-drummer/ |title=Sublime with Rome: New Drummer |publisher=theislandsound.com |date=2017-01-30 |access-date=March 15, 2017}} Soon after, the band announced a North American summer tour with The Offspring and The Menzingers. The band's third album, Blessings was produced by Rob Cavallo and released through Red Music in 2019.{{cite web|url=http://www.hysteriamag.com/sublime-rome-punk-rock-reggae-summers/ |title=SUBLIME WITH ROME // Punk Rock Reggae Summers |website=Hysteriamag.com |date=2017-03-05 |access-date=January 28, 2018}} Ramirez said of the album, "A lot of these songs really came from honestly me being in a spot where I wanted to just write all the lyrics upfront first and focus on what I wanted to say. I just got married, I was having my first child. Things were starting to change for my life; I stopped drinking hard alcohol. Everything was starting to come into focus for this for the next chapter."{{cite news|url=https://jambands.com/features/2020/04/08/such-a-rich-legacy-rome-ramirez-on-a-decade-of-sublime-with-rome/|title="Such A Rich Legacy": Rome Ramirez on a Decade of Sublime with Rome|last=Kenny-Cincotta|first=Raffaela|date=April 8, 2020|publisher=Jambands.com}}

During the band's Summertime 2023 tour with Slightly Stoopid, Sublime with Rome performed with new drummer, Jason Vick.{{cite web | url=https://www.detroitnews.com/picture-gallery/entertainment/music/2023/07/30/slightly-stoopid-sublime-with-rome-and-atmosphere-play-freedom-hill/70494697007/ | title=Slightly Stoopid, Sublime with Rome and Atmosphere play Freedom Hill }} After the tour, yet another new drummer, Joe Tomino of Dub Trio, joined the band.{{cite web | url=https://rollingstoneindia.com/sublime-with-rome-interview/ | title=Sublime with Rome Release New Reggae Rock Single 'Cool and Collected,' Talk About Upcoming Album and Touring India | date=August 28, 2023 }} In September, the band released a statement that due to a shoulder injury Wilson sustained during the summer tour, Stu Brooks of Dub Trio and Tony Kanal of No Doubt would alternate playing bass for the band's scheduled dates. The band's Tangerine Skies EP was released on November 3, 2023.{{cite web | url=https://found.ee/tangerineskies | title=Tangerine Skies }}

On December 11, Wilson and Gaugh reunited to perform with Jakob Nowell as Sublime during a benefit show for Bad Brains vocalist H.R. at the Teragram Ballroom in Los Angeles.{{cite web | url=https://www.stereogum.com/2245608/sublime-bradley-nowell-son-jakob-video/news/ | title=Watch Bradley Nowell's Son Front Sublime at Benefit for Bad Brains' H.R. | date=December 14, 2023 }} One week later, on December 18, Ramirez announced that he would be departing Sublime with Rome at the end of 2024 and moving on to focus on his solo career.{{cite web | url=https://www.audacy.com/national/music/rome-ramirez-of-sublime-with-rome-announces-2024-dates-will-be-his-last-with-the-band | title=Rome Ramirez of Sublime with Rome announces 2024 dates will be his last with the band | date=December 18, 2023 }} The next day, Ramirez announced that the band had to postpone their scheduled 2023 performances in New Zealand due to "unforeseen circumstances" but promised to reschedule the dates for 2024.{{cite web | url=https://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/sublime-with-rome-split-band-postpone-nz-tour-and-promise-2024-dates/CLX7H2S5TBASRIAEYXRQZOMNHQ/ | title='Unforeseen circumstances': Sublime with Rome postpone NZ tour | date=February 20, 2024 }}

On February 26, 2024, Wilson announced via Instagram that he was no longer performing with Sublime with Rome and would only be performing with Sublime, which would continue with Jakob Nowell on lead vocals.{{Cite Instagram |postid=C31kKxFr8nh |user=fourtydog |title=#sublime |first=Eric |last=Wilson |author-link=Eric Wilson (bassist) |date=27 February 2024 |access-date=21 April 2024}} On March 4, 2024, the band officially announced its farewell tour with Tomino on drums and Brian Allen replacing Wilson on bass.{{Cite web |last=Shanfeld |first=Ethan |date=2024-03-04 |title=Sublime With Rome Announces Farewell Tour — With None of the Original Members of Sublime |url=https://variety.com/2024/music/news/sublime-with-rome-farewell-tour-dates-1235929393/ |access-date=2024-04-21 |website=Variety |language=en-US}}

On April 5, 2024, the band announced their fourth and final studio album, Sublime with Rome, along with the release of its lead single, "Love is Dangerous".{{Cite web |title=Sublime With Rome announce final album, share "Love Is Dangerous" - SONiC |url=https://www.sonicradio.ca/2024/04/09/sublime-with-rome-announce-final-album-share-love-is-dangerous/ |access-date=2024-06-21 |website=www.sonicradio.ca|date=April 9, 2024 }} The album was released on May 10, 2024. By the end of 2024, the band split up.

Former members

• Rome Ramirez – lead vocals, guitar (2009–2024)
• Eric Wilson – bass, backing vocals, keyboard (2009–2024)
• Bud Gaugh – drums, percussion (2009–2011)
• Josh Freese – drums, percussion (2011–2017)
• Carlos Verdugo – drums, percussion (2017–2023)
• Jason Vick – drums, percussion (2023)
• Joe Tomino – drums, percussion (2023–2024)
• Brian Allen – bass, backing vocals (2024)

Touring members

• Todd Forman – saxophone, keyboards, percussion (2009–2011)
• DJ Rocky Rock – turntables, samples (2011){{Cite web |last1=Newsletter |last2=Tv |last3=Photos |last4=Contact |last5=In |first5=Tune |title=Snapback Live {{!}} Live Streaming Hip Hop DJs Daily |url=https://www.snapbacklive.com/blog |access-date=2024-08-17 |website=www.snapbacklive.com |language=en}}
• Leigh "LDontheCut" Snyder – turntables, samples (2012–2023){{Cite web |title=LDontheCut |url=https://ldonthecut.com/home |access-date=2024-04-22 |website=ldonthecut.com}}
• Gabrial McNair – keyboards, trombone, backing vocals (2017–2024)
• Tony Kanal – bass, keyboards (2023)
• Stu Brooks – bass, keyboards (2023)

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• Sublime with Rome Tour (2010)
• 311 Unity Tour (2011)
• Sublime with Rome/Cypress Hill/Pepper Tour (2012)
• Sublime with Rome/Rebelution/Pepper Summer Tour (2015)
• Sublime with Rome Summer Tour (2016)
• Sublime with Rome/The Offspring Summer Tour (2017)
• SOJA and Sublime With Rome Summer Tour (2019){{Cite web|url=https://ticket2concert.com/sublime-with-rome-concert-tickets|title=Cheap Sublime with Rome Concert Tickets {{!}} Sublime with Rome Tickets Discount Coupon {{!}} Ticket2Concert|website=ticket2concert.com|date=May 22, 2019 |access-date=2019-10-08}}
• Dirty Heads/Sublime with Rome: High and Mighty Tour (2021)
• Incubus with Very Special Guest Sublime with Rome and The Aquadolls (2022)
• Summertime Tour with Slightly Stoopid, Atmosphere, and The Movement (2023)
• Farewell Tour (2024){{Cite web |last=CHELOSKY |first=DANIELLE |date=2024-03-05 |title=Sublime With Rome Announce Final Shows, Original Sublime Get Countersued By Ex-Lawyers |url=https://www.stereogum.com/2254344/sublime-with-rome-announce-final-shows-original-sublime-get-countersued-by-ex-lawyers/news/ |access-date=2024-04-15 |website=Stereogum |language=en}}

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• Reservoired Dog [http://www.nerdsociety.com/interview-with-rome-ramirez-of-sublime-with-rome/ "Interview with Rome Ramirez of Sublime with Rome"], NerdSociety.com April 24, 2010.

• {{official website|http://www.sublimewithrome.com/}}
• [http://www.ocreloaded.com/concert-reviews/193-dirty-heads-sublime-with-rome-pacamp-review.html Rome Starting to Fill Sublime's Shoes]
• [https://web.archive.org/web/20101230025217/http://sublimeband.net/ Sublime Band Reloaded]

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