Talk:Altani

Since there are several academic articles, one book and three primary sources about Altani it is better to have a separate article for this historical figure. Ortaq (talk) 11:11, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

:{{u|Ortaq}}, please identify a reliable source which explicitly connects Altani, the wife of Boroqul, as the same person as the wife of Chormaqan/Ogedei. Please note that if there is no such source, you have perpetuated intentional original research by making up a connection with another, similarly-named woman. That is sanctionable behaviour. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:17, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

::https://www.jstor.org/stable/2718097 Ortaq (talk) 22:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

:::That does nothing of the sort, it is a list of names. As can be seen [https://www.jstor.org/stable/2718097?seq=12 here], Cleaves does not "confirmed Eltina or Aylt'ana was Altani" Once more, source misrepresentation, and this time accompanied by personal attacks like the edit summary [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Altani&diff=prev&oldid=1254833911 vandalism by psycho reverted]. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:00, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

::::The historian and translator of The Secret History of the Mongols, Igor de Rachewiltz believed that Altani was a historical person and had two names, Altani and Tekui, as was common among Mongol elites.Igor de Rachewiltz (trans. and ann.) The Secret History of the Mongols: A Mongolian Epic Chronicle of the Thirteenth Century. Netherlands: Brill, 2006, p. 805-806 Ortaq (talk) 17:45, 19 November 2024 (UTC)