Talk:As a service#Requested move 17 February 2025
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Requested move 23 December 2015
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The result of the move request was: page moved. Regarding WP:NOUN, yes, but this is a wp:set index list of partial title matches, not really a traditional article. – Wbm1058 (talk) 22:11, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
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:*aaS → {{no redirect|As a service}} – I believe that this term will be more recognizable at a spelled-out title. bd2412 T 22:24, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support WP:RECOGNIZABLE In ictu oculi (talk) 13:57, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
- Support per In ictu oculi. –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 22:21, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
- Comment this violates WP:NOUN 73.214.30.202 (talk) 20:18, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
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:The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
Breeding ground
"As a Service" is a lonely article that should be the starting point for sections, someday with a "Main Article" template to those sections that breed full non-stub articles.
Meantime, the first listed is not even a redirect:
"Artifical Intelligence as a Service" points to an article with a different name. Pi314m (talk) 20:43, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
WaaS & DaaS
I found "DaaS" as Digital Workplace as a Service (see the similar "Desktop as a Service")
and "WaaS" with both "Workplace as a Service" => Desktop virtualization with Citrix or VMware Workspace ONE & Horizon, including EMM for Smart Phones and Tablets; Application virtualization of custom applications as well as self-developed apps; hardware support from small client to laptop; print services and more
and "WaaS" for Windows as a Service, just supporting license management, call entry, troubleshooting and on-site-services for Windows (not hardware).
Please check and add. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.115.65.20 (talk) 18:27, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
RaaS
Ransomware as a Service took the industry by storm in the beginning of the 2020s — Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.91.61.188 (talk) 20:34, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
:[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=As_a_service&diff=1099378113&oldid=1099205861 Added]. Banana Republic (talk) 12:59, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
::I don't think that extortion fits the definition of 'as a service' presented in this article. Which is, like any other Wikipedia article, supposed to be about a topic, not a phrase being used ironically. And furthermore, the Forbes source being cited seems to be paid-for content, and accordingly shouldn't be cited. I'm going to remove this for now, and ask that people discuss further before restoring it. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:05, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
:::I suppose the [https://www.forbes.com/sites/servicenow/2021/06/09/the-destructive-rise-of-ransomware-as-a-service/?sh=7fba71021e16 Forbes reference] is not a good reference because it's paid content. There is [https://www.microsoft.com/security/blog/2022/05/09/ransomware-as-a-service-understanding-the-cybercrime-gig-economy-and-how-to-protect-yourself/ another reference, by Microsoft], that discusses Ransomware as a service in depth, and does not seem to be a sales pitch.
:::I agree that Ransomware as a service is different from all the other examples listed, but just because it's different does not mean that it should therefore not be listed. We can list it with a footnote saying that it is an illegal service. This is similar to the Windows as a service that is listed with a footnote that it's now obsolete. Banana Republic (talk) 19:54, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
:::It should be noted that Exploit as a service, for which we have a Wikipedia article and is listed in this article, is also a service for illegal activity. Banana Republic (talk) 19:58, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
::::Frankly, given the ridiculously broad criteria for inclusion this article seems to be built around (which appears to be anything someone somewhere has used the marketing jargon 'as a service' about), I'm wondering about nominating it for deletion per WP:NOTDICTIONARY. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:17, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
:::::I think the article will easily survive an AfD, since it's not a definition article. It explains the pros and cons of XaaS, and provides a list of examples. If anything, this is more of a list article.
:::::I don't think it's ridiculous for the inclusion criteria to have the items either have an existing Wikipedia article or a reference showing existence / usage.
:::::But that's just my opinion. You can put the article up for AfD and see what the community thinks. Banana Republic (talk) 21:30, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
::::::If it is a list article, what is it a list of, beyond things that have been described/marketed as 'something as a service'? AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:32, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
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Only the Examples section is a list. The article as a whole is not a list. Banana Republic (talk) 21:42, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
:The article as a whole is a largely unsourced mess. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:21, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
::I don't fully agree with that, but even if that's the case, that's not a reason for deletion. AfDs are only used for articles in which the notability of the subject is questionable. Banana Republic (talk) 23:21, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
:::But what exactly is the subject? AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:00, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
::::[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=As_a_service&diff=prev&oldid=1099802884 With this edit], what the subject is should be a little bit more clear. The subject is {{tq|a business model in which something is being presented to a customer, either internal or external, as a service.}} Banana Republic (talk) 18:07, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
Long example list
A table of examples brings no value to this article, it is just a manually maintained and inferior copy of :Category:As a service. It brings no value to this article and is merely a venue for people to spam Wikipedia with nonnotable neologisms. This article is better off without it. MrOllie (talk) 02:14, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
:A highly technical article like this one needs at least a few real-world examples of what an "as a service" business might do.
:Twenty bluelinks to full articles doesn't seem excessive as a way to give the reader an overview of that. Prose that grouped examples into context would be better. No examples at all is worse. Belbury (talk) 13:58, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
::Given that all of the sources cited currently seem to be describing cloud computing rather than whatever 'as a service' is supposed to mean beyond being marketing-speak (if it actually does mean anything), it is questionable whether a separate article is needed at all. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:12, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
:::I added a couple of the most prominent forms to the existing text. These are really just marketing buzzwords that all equate to Cloud computing, yes. In fact the section Cloud_computing#Service_models is a better article on this topic than this article is. MrOllie (talk) 14:57, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
::::In which case, 'As a service' should be a redirect there. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:04, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
::::: Agreed. But I would wait for things to settle before doing that. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:19, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
::::::I would support that as well. MrOllie (talk) 18:47, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
Noting the list was copied without attribution into a new article, related AFD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of types of businesses using the "as a service" business model - MrOllie (talk) 00:59, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
{{ping|AndyTheGrump|Pppery|MrOllie}} Did I do good? 🤡 —Alalch E. 19:00, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
I've nominated the category for deletion: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 9#Category:As a service—Alalch E. 23:04, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
DaaS
Requested move 17 February 2025
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The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) Sophisticatedevening (talk) 19:54, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
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:As a service → {{no redirect|X as a service}} – or {{-r|List of information technology–related products offered as a service}}. The current title violates WP:NOUN and seems grammatically incomplete. Note that the article is currently also using a lowercase displayed title (displayed as "as a service"), which is an unusual styling that reinforces the impression of incompleteness. This proposal corresponds with the current opening sentence of the article, which introduces the topic as "{{var|X}} as a service" rather than using the current title. So does the Snowclone article. (Presumably, the "X" should be shown in italics{{snd}} as "{{-r|X as a service|X as a service}}".) See also the prior RM discussion from ten years ago. — BarrelProof (talk) 18:17, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
:'As a service' is really just a marketing term for Cloud Computing. Instead of moving this article to another title, we ought to just change it into a redirect to Cloud_computing#Service_models, which is a much better treatment of this concept than this article is. - MrOllie (talk) 19:09, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
::Some of the listed offerings don't fit into cloud computing{{snd}} e.g., Energy storage as a service, Transportation as a service (the same thing as Mobility as a service, which is also listed?), IT as a service, Offshoring as a service, and Philanthropy as a service{{snd}} but the criteria for inclusion seem a bit arbitrary. Some service offerings are not included{{snd}} e.g., we could add "Cleaning as a service", "Lawn maintenance as a service", "Medicine as a service", "Sex as a service", etc. — BarrelProof (talk) 19:16, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose X, which makes me think the article will be about Twitter. No opinion on any other option. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 06:06, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
::I don't think Twitter has supplanted the ability to use X as a generic variable for a basic algebra concept. — BarrelProof (talk) 16:23, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
- Comment Also consider aaS, which is WP:COMMONNAME and sufficiently disambiguated from AAS and Aas. 162 etc. (talk) 17:21, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. This is a sui generis set index list of partial title matches, based on a phrasal template. The name is good.—Alalch E. 18:06, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose, given that sources and the Wikipedia article itself use phrases like {{tq|the "as a service" business model}} comfortably enough. --Belbury (talk) 18:09, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
- Strong oppose Per others and confusion with the site "X". Support alternate move to List of subscription-based technology business models. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 17:48, 21 February 2025 (UTC)