Talk:Avatar (2009 film)#Punctuation

I'm relatively new to editing Wikipedia and I was dismayed to receive a notification on my talk page from DonIago accusing me of making an unconstructive and disruptive edit by changing "Unobtanium" in the lede to "Unobtainium". My attention was directed to an inline citation which cites three sources. The first one, from NBC News, does not mention either spelling. Nor does the second source, from the Boston Globe. The third source does use this spelling, but it's just one source. Meanwhile, the Wikipedia page about this concept spells it "Unobtainium". I think these things taken together justify the edit but of course I'm open to hearing people out. I also feel like slapping a "unconstructive" and "disruptive" template on my talk page is a huge over-reaction and very hostile to newcomers!Itsnotacookie (talk)

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Please update the number of RT reviews. 27.58.14.185 (talk) 16:50, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

: Source [https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/avatar] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.58.14.185 (talk) 16:57, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

::{{done}} Mike Allen 17:00, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

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I believe that we need an indigenous perspective in the "Reception" section, which frame this movie about an indigenous people and culture in an entirely different light. Jesse Wente, an Ojibwe film critic from Canada, has written about Avatar in his book Unreconciled: Family, Truth, and Indigenous Resistance (Penguin Canada, 2021, ISBN 978-0-7352-3575-5). He should be quoted here. These are his words:

The Na'vis' only chance of defending themselves and their way of life comes in the form of a white man who uses advanced technology to remotely operate a lab-grown Na'vi body. He is literally wearing Indigeneity as a costume. This revolting form of "going native" climaxes in the inevitable way, with the white saviour out-Na'viing the Na'vi. He taps into their ancient spirituality in a way none of the Na'vi themselves seemingly can. .... The film itself ... is an expensively rendered colonial fairy tale. It reduces the Indigenous peoples of the Americas to a prop that showcases white excellence and capability. It reduces our identity to a garment that a white person can wear so convincingly that it fools even us. It reduces millennia of spiritual practice down to something a "well-intentioned" white person can comprehend better than we ever could in just a matter of days (p. 140). 2600:1700:ADE2:3800:8580:3FBA:5E33:BC16 (talk) 03:34, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

:File:Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Lightoil (talk) 04:33, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

I was thinking someone more qualified than me could add a section in which the never released scenes of the film are talked about. The main problem of doing this is (I haven't looked into it but I'm pretty sure) that the only source for this section would be a YouTube channel and it's videos. I was thinking this section could be added in the lower section of 'Releases'. I've started writing the 1st draft of the proposed paragraph, use it in any way if you want to:

Between 2018 December 14th and 2019 May 3rd, 28 completely unreleased and unfinished clips and scenes of the film were released by the YouTube channel [https://www.youtube.com/@Rainbowhawk1993 Rainbowhawk1993]. These clips give a glimpse into what the movie looked like in previs. They also provide additional never seen story details. For example, in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMj3inAvowA 12^th deleted scene clip], its made much more obvious that...

At this point I stopped writing because I lost motivation and hope, feeling pretty sure that my edit would be undone immediately. The last two edits I tried to make face planted; "the sources weren't good enough.", for some reason YouTube can't be used for a source even if it's about a meme. But, that's Wikipedia for you I guess. Anyway, I hope someone can expand on this and potentially find more sources, because I think that it is crucial for this information to be in this article.

Note: The film's length with the deleted scenes included would have been about 3 hours, 34 minutes and 5 seconds long.

The Mining Pickaxe (talk) 14:04, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

:YouTube channels that are not official are not considered reliable sources, and such an addition would be removed. Personally, I don't think the unreleased/unfinished clips are notable enough for inclusion. Just pulling an example out of thin air, the Avengers: Endgame article mentions deleted scenes three times, and none of them are explicitly detailed. Your intentions are good, but I don't believe this information needs to be included. GSK (talk • edits) 17:50, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

I am unable to edit this page yet.

Under cast > Laz Alonso, the word "betrothed" is repeated and there is no period at the end of the last sentence. Krisvyre (talk) 13:15, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

:{{fixed}} Thanks for bringing this to our attention! DonIago (talk) 13:23, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

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Add a section for logo referencing that the logo is using the front Papyrus, as referenced by Ryan Gosling in the SNL short Papyrus released on October 1 2017. Ecordeir1 (talk) 18:02, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

:File:Pictogram voting question.svg Question: Can you provide a more significant source? The font being referenced by SNL seems trivial. DonIago (talk) 18:05, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

::Here are two articles outlining responses to the skit from James Cameron and Jon Landau. Perhaps we can make an edit to note the logo has been noted having many similarities to the Papyrus font, as referenced in the SNL skit, and loosely confirmed by James Cameron and Jon Landau.

::https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/james-cameron-responds-snl-sketch-avatar-font-1234650817/

::https://ew.com/movies/avatar-the-way-of-water-saturday-night-live-papyrus-sketch/ Ecordeir1 (talk) 18:18, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

:::I'm willing to defer to other editors, but I'm not really finding this convincing personally. The sources don't say a great deal about the film's use of the font, and just including, "The film used this font and there was an SNL sketch about it..." seems like calling undue attention to a pretty minor point. If there was more information about the film team's decision to use the font or there was more attention to the use of the font itself than the SNL sketch, I'd find that more persuasive, personally. DonIago (talk) 20:24, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

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change te reo Māori to Māori language 2407:7000:AB5A:9673:302C:7774:BC8B:49C1 (talk) 22:58, 12 April 2025 (UTC)