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Talk:Beverly White/GA1

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Reviewer: Aussie Article Writer (talk · contribs) 02:39, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

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{{GATable/item|1a|pass|Prose is clear and concise, spelling and grammar are correct.

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{{GATable/item|1b|pass|Excellent lead section, layout is great, no words to watch that I can see.

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  1. Early life: - reference checks out OK
  2. Career
  3. Politics: references check out OK
  4. Utah House of Representatives:
  5. Elections: references check out OK
  6. Tenure references check out OK, but have highlighted that some material about her life may be missing
  7. Later life
  8. * "She served as the board's chair from 1989 to 1991." what is the reference for this?
  9. ** Fixed by nom. - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 17:13, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
  10. * "White offered to resign from the position of chair in 1989, due to controversy involving debt of $50,000, but the board voted to show confidence in her. Despite not wanting to serve another term she was unanimously selected to serve another term in 1990. She declined to serve another term despite having been renominated in 1991. She was selected to serve as secretary after being chair of the board." due to the controversial nature of this issue, we really need to source each sentence, please see Wikipedia:Citing sources#Keeping_citations_close.
  11. ** Fixed by nom. - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 17:56, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
  12. * All other references and material checks out
  13. Political positions
  14. Abortion: sources check out
  15. Equal Rights Amendment: sources check out
  16. Women's rights: sources check out
  17. Electoral history: sources check out - I admit I didn't check the percentages! - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 04:07, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

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{{GATable/item|2c|pass|

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{{GATable/item|3a|pass|Gives a good biography, seems to cover her political positions well. However:

  • I noticed a number of awards that she isn't credited for, and according to [https://www.usu.edu/today/story/women-of-usu-then-and-now-women-in-the-legislature this source], "She also helped establish the Children’s Justice Center in Tooele and worked for the Tooele Adult Probation and Parole Office until she retired at the age of 78. White also served as a member of the Governor’s Commission on the Status of Women (1986–1993)". Whilst she is most notable for her legislative and political work, surely these things should be included in the article?
  • Fixed by nom. - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 17:57, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
  • [https://www.newspapers.com/clip/79100507/the-transcript-bulletin/ This source] says that White wanted to reestablish Capitol Punishment. Is this something that should be covered?
  • Fixed by nom. - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 17:57, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

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{{GATable/item|3b|pass|

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{{GATable/item|4|pass|For balance, the following probably needs to note the controversy from the Republican party's viewpoint "On January 22, 1991, White and five other people were selected by forty delegates to be candidates to replace Bill Pitt on the Tooele County Commission, but Edwin St. Clair was selected to fill the vacancy." The source of the controversy can be found [https://www.newspapers.com/clip/79104443/tooele-transcript-bulletin/ here]. - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 03:43, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

:Fixed by nom. - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 18:01, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

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{{GATable/item|5|pass|

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{{GATable/item|6a|pass|

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{{GATable/item|7|y|

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=Discussion=

  • though it will not affect this GA, the [https://www.newspapers.com/clip/79182962/tooele-transcript-bulletin/ following source] says that she won a multitude of awards. Can we not include this in the article? [https://www.newspapers.com/clip/79103146/the-tooele-bulletin/ This source] says that she is Vice-Chairman of the Murray-Jordan-Toole Mental Health Centro, a member of the Juvenile Court Advisory Board, and a member of the LEPA Advisory Council. Same situation, can this not be included? - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 03:27, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
  • {{u|Jon698}} an excellent article, I can definitely see this is on the cusp of being a good article! Could you address my concerns? - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 04:08, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

:* {{re|User:Aussie Article Writer}} Thank you for your review and I will get to the issues soon. Jon698 (talk) 04:23, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

::* {{re|User:Aussie Article Writer}} I have finally gotten to fixing the problems you had with the article and I will explain why I didn't do some of them. The "She served as the board's chair from 1989 to 1991" is in reference to the Tooele Valley Medical Center Special Service District Board which was mentioned in the previous sentence. I also really wanted to find a place to put the capitol punishment support into when originally writing the article, but couldn't so I decided to leave it out rather than just have one sentence sticking out at the very top. Jon698 (talk) 09:21, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

:::* {{re|User:Aussie Article Writer}} Sorry about forgetting to mention the awards part. I chose to not include those since they weren't really notable awards and most are repetitive. Jon698 (talk) 09:22, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

::::* May I make a suggestion? Just make political positions one section and include hey death penalty views in that section. - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 09:29, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

::::* What about “ She also helped establish the Children’s Justice Center in Tooele and worked for the Tooele Adult Probation and Parole Office until she retired at the age of 78. White also served as a member of the Governor’s Commission on the Status of Women (1986–1993)”? - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 16:58, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

  • {{u|Jon698}} I feel this is very close to GA stays, but there is still one referencing issue that needs attention, and if we could fix the minor NPOV issue, then I think we are almost there. We do need to note her position on capital punishment for completeness. - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 17:16, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

:* {{re|User:Aussie Article Writer}} Done. I found a way to mention her capital punishment support in a way I liked. I also fixed the close citations thing and added in your suggestion. BTW thank you for introducing me to WIG. Jon698 (talk) 17:41, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

:** {{re|Jon698}} not a problem, I think your skills will really be welcomed by WiG! I am extremely happy to tell you that you have addressed all the concerns and this is now a GA! Well done Jon, you have helped improve another fantastic article to the Wikipedia corpus. - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 18:02, 21 July 2021 (UTC)