Talk:Canada Permanent Trust Building#Requested move 14 January 2025

:The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 14:11, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

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:Canada Permanent Trust Building → {{no redirect|Canada Permanent Building}} – Name on facade is "Canada Permanent Building." Also, the building was home to two companies: the Canada Permanent Mortgage Corporation and its subsidiary the Canada Permanent Trust Company, both of which went under the "Canada Permanent" name. The use of the "Canada Permanent Building" name reflected this. See Canada Permanent. Tsc9i8 (talk) 20:41, 6 January 2025 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Tsc9i8 (talk) 21:15, 14 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 06:46, 22 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. TiggerJay (talk) 06:58, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

:*weak oppose sources{{emdash}} particularly ones talking about it's historic status{{emdash}}tend to use 'Canada Permanent Trust Building' and tend to refer to the one in Edmonton as the 'Canada Permanent Building' ... not that that one has a page so we don't need to dab—blindlynx 16:03, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

:*:I would say that given the name "Canada Permanent Building" is carved in stone on its facade, that's sufficient proof of the correct name, and that "Canada Permanent Trust Building" is a misnomer. Tsc9i8 (talk) 00:36, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

:*::The facade of the building isn't a reliable secondary source. See WP:SOURCES. 162 etc. (talk) 17:25, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

:*:::For reliable secondary sources, see:

:*:::* Making Toronto Modern by Christopher Armstrong. https://archive.org/details/makingtorontomod0000arms/page/82/

:*:::* Catalogue of an exhibition by the Toronto Chapter of the Ontario Association of Architects https://archive.org/details/catalogueofexhib00unse_8/page/28

:*:::* Toronto Architecture: A City Guide https://archive.org/details/torontoarchitect0000mchu_s2e8/page/94

:*:::* Architectural Forum, September 1930 https://archive.org/details/usmodernist-AF-1930-09-2/page/112

:*:::Tsc9i8 (talk) 16:33, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

:*::::But then you have the [https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/once-upon-a-city-the-opulent-landmarks-of-sproatt-rolph/article_2c7ce762-db9d-53cf-934f-7c3ed6d03bb2.html Star] and [https://www.theglobeandmail.com/real-estate/toronto/heritage-redevelopment-project-will-bring-a-great-hall-to-king-west/article32107975/ Globe and Mail] (among others) using "Canada Permanent Trust Building." It's not clear that the proposed title is "most typically used in reliable sources." I'll also put my vote as weak oppose. 162 etc. (talk) 21:04, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

:*:::::some more recent sources thate use 'Canada Permanent Trust Building' [https://www.blogto.com/real-estate-toronto/2022/01/old-toronto-building-just-got-stunning-restoration-and-modernization/] [https://www.acotoronto.ca/building.php?ID=169] [https://www.collierscanada.com/en-ca/news/2020-the-permanent-320-bay-street]—blindlynx 14:03, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

:Note: WikiProject Ontario, WikiProject Toronto, Canadian Wikipedians' notice board, and WikiProject Architecture have been notified of this discussion. TiggerJay (talk) 06:58, 30 January 2025 (UTC)