Talk:Firuz Shah Tughlaq#Requested move 25 April 2025

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::Firoz probably learnt many lessons from his cousin Muhammad's rule. He decided not to reconquer areas that had broken away. He decided to keep nobles and the Ulema happy so that they would allow him to rule his kigdom peacefully. In fact, there were hardly any rebellions during his rule. We come to know about him from a 32-page brochure he wrote. Firoz allowed a noble's son to succeed to his father;s position and jagir after his death. The same was done in the army, where an old soldier could send his son, son-in-law or even his slave in his place. He won over the Ulemas by giving them grants of revenue, which gave him political power. He increased the salary of the nobles. He stopped all kinds of harsh punishments such as cutting off hands. Firoz also lowered the land taxes that Muhammad had raised.

::Firuz's reign has been described as the greatest age of corruption in medieval India. It can be imagined from the fact that Firuz once gave a golden tanka to a distraught soldier so that he could bribe the clerk to pass his sub standard horse. The case of Imadulmulk Bashir, the minister of war who began his career as an inherited slave of Firuz, in course of his service is said to have accumulated wealth to the tune of thirteen crores, when the state's yearly income was six crores and seventy-five lakh tankas.

--Bejnar (talk) 19:01, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

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Tell me it's character sticks please 160.202.39.235 (talk) 10:42, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

@PadFoot2008 There are many other notable people with the name "Firuz Shah". Firuz Shah Tughlaq is one of them and others are Shamsuddin Firuz Shah, Firuz Shah Bamani, Firoz Shah and more. That's why "Firuz Shah" has more results than "Firuz Shah Tughlaq" when searched. Koshuri ^(グ) 16:45, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:Hello @Koshuri Sultan, I moved the page per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Firuz Shah Tughluq has more than 8,000 views per month, while Shamsuddin Firuz Shah has only 230 views, Taj ud-Din Firuz Shah has 1,100 views and Firoz Shah has only 76 views. PadFoot (talk) 16:53, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

::In contrast to WP:PRECISE? No it shouldn't be like that, it doesn't not help to fix the issue but rather exhibits extravalent work for an editor. Koshuri ^(グ) 05:23, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Per WP:PRECISE, {{tq|Exceptions to the precision criterion may sometimes result from the application of some other naming criteria. Most of these exceptions are described in specific Wikipedia guidelines or by Wikipedia projects, such as Primary topic}}. Thus, the move was fully in line with WP:PRECISE. PadFoot (talk) 14:45, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

::::Start a requested move. Oxford hits for "Firuz Shah" mostly disambiguates with the 'Tughlaq' suffix [https://academic.oup.com/search-results?page=1&q=%22Firuz%20Shah%22&fl_SiteID=191&SearchSourceType=1&allJournals=1]. Your move was unnecessary, thinking it's not even a common name let alone being precise. Koshuri ^(グ) 13:16, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

:::::It's the undoubtable COMMONNAME. See [https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Firuz+Shah+Tughluq%2C+Firuz+Shah&year_start=1800&year_end=2022&corpus=en&smoothing=3 ngrams]. Looking at the first 10 results in a Google Books [https://www.google.com/search?q=%22firuz%20shah%22&tbm=bks&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:2005,cd_max:2022&lr=lang_en search of "Firuz Shah"], gives the "Tughlaq" suffix only twice, and 6 results mentioning Firuz Shah without the suffix. I shall open a RM now. PadFoot (talk) 02:18, 25 April 2025 (UTC)