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Reviewer: BennyOnTheLoose (talk · contribs) 16:11, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Many thanks for taking this on. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:26, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

::Thanks for the responses {{u|Chiswick Chap}}. I hadn't quite finished going through the article earlier, and just have a few further points:

  • Concept and Creation: "led to the Kin-strife and introduced the regency of Rómendacil II" - might be worth adding a little elaboration here (or some linking) as this is the first time that the phrase Kin-strife appears in the article.

:: It just means civil war, so have called it that now.

  • Adaptations: Consider renaming section, as only one adaptation is discussed.

:: Renamed to 'In film'.

  • Adaptations: "compared to the Byzantine Empire, for numerous reasons" - I think the phrase "for numerous reasons" could be deleted, unless the extended DVD source supports this, in which case maybe it could be added into a version of the following sentence.

:: Cut.

:Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:09, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

:::{{u|Chiswick Chap}} I'm happy to promote this to GA. Thanks for all your work, and well done. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:48, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

I'll be looking to claim points for the 2020 WikiCup for this review. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 16:11, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Review Comments

  • Picture caption: "Gondor (red) within Middle-earth, T.A. 3019" - I suggest linking "T.A." to the Third Age article.

:: Done.

  • Númenórean kingdom: "drowning of Númenor" and "Sauron survived the destruction of Númenor" - consider adding a brief summary about the drowning/destruction here, or maybe a link to the relevant part of the Númenor or Sauron article.

:: Good point. Linked.

  • Third Age, under the Stewards: This section doesn't seem to read as smoothly as the others. It might be because there are some consecutive relatively short sentences here, so I suggest considering whether some could be combined or expanded.

:: I've done a bit of copy-editing, hope it's to your liking.

  • Third Age, under the Stewards: I don't know if there is a main reason how "Gondor became very rich" - if there is, then consider adding it.

:: None that I've read; basically Tolkien just wanted to paint a picture of a well-developed civilisation. It's already compared by a scholar to Byzantine Civilisation in the article.

  • War of the Ring and restoration: Part of this seems to be written in a different tense to the other historical sections. (e.g. words like sends/attends/suggests rather than wordslike were/landed/brought) This may be my personal reading, or deliberate, so I don't have a specific recommendation other than re-reading and amending if appropriate.

:: Well spotted! Fixed.

  • War of the Ring and restoration: like the Third age section, this doesn't flow quite as well as other parts of the article, consider some rewriting.

:: Again, I've copy-edited it, hope it's more to your liking now.

:GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

  1. It is reasonably well written.
  2. :a (prose, spelling, and grammar): {{GAList/check|y}} b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): {{GAList/check|y}}
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  4. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
  5. :a (reference section): {{GAList/check|y}} b (citations to reliable sources): {{GAList/check|y}} c (OR): {{GAList/check|y}} d (copyvio and plagiarism): {{GAList/check|y}} (Note: I checked both results showing above 0% on Earwig's Copyvio Detector, and the only shared phrases are titles. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:48, 10 April 2020 (UTC))
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  7. It is broad in its coverage.
  8. :a (major aspects): {{GAList/check|y}} b (focused): {{GAList/check|y}}
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  10. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
  11. :Fair representation without bias: {{GAList/check|y}}
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  13. It is stable.
  14. :No edit wars, etc.: {{GAList/check|y}}
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  16. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
  17. :a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): {{GAList/check|y}} b (appropriate use with suitable captions): {{GAList/check|y}}
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  19. Overall:
  20. :Pass/Fail: {{GAList/check|y}}
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