Talk:Gustavo Santaolalla/GA1

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:This review is transcluded from Talk:Gustavo Santaolalla/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: {{User|BarntToust}} 12:21, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: Tomobe03 (talk · contribs) 10:42, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

I'll review this nom shortly...

:GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.
2. :a (prose, spelling, and grammar): {{GAList/check|y}} b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): {{GAList/check|y}}
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4. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.
5. :a (reference section): {{GAList/check|y}} b (inline citations to reliable sources): {{GAList/check|y}} c (OR): {{GAList/check|y}} d (copyvio and plagiarism): {{GAList/check|y}}
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7. It is broad in its coverage.
8. :a (major aspects): {{GAList/check|y}} b (focused): {{GAList/check|y}}
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10. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
11. :Fair representation without bias: {{GAList/check|y}}
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13. It is stable.
14. :No edit wars, etc.: {{GAList/check|y}}
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16. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
17. :a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): {{GAList/check|y}} b (appropriate use with suitable captions): {{GAList/check|y}}
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19. Overall:
20. :Pass/Fail: {{GAList/check|y}}
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Earwig's Copyvio Detector reports likely copyvio, pointing to this site [https://pantheon.world/profile/occupation/musician/country/argentina], but I suspect it is the other way around, i.e. that the external site lifted lede from the GAN article. I suspect it is so because the same appears to have happened to the lede of Lalo Schifrin, an article that appears unrelated to the nominator. I'll try to confirm this before proceeding with the rest of the review. --Tomobe03 (talk) 20:05, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

:Yeah, this is an external site copying what I wrote. if you look into the very recent history, you can see me building the entire lede out bit by bit according to the content I added. Maybe as a test beyond taking me in good faith, you can rearrange a word or two here and see that the site is probaly transcluding the lede. Much the same like how musician bios on YouTube like to copy word for word the ledes of Wikipedia. BarntToust 20:25, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

::As I said above, I don't think Santaolalla article is copied from the external site, I'd just like to wait a short while to see if I get a response at Wikipedia talk:Mirrors and forks re further action first. Don't worry, I'll move on reasonably quickly even if there is no response. Tomobe03 (talk) 21:17, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

:::very well! BarntToust 21:22, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

::::Martha Argerich's lede seems to have them same text as Pantheon.world's entry, Chris de Burgh does too, Lalo Schifrin, and looks like all the rest. It's a clear cut duplication case. The last editor to post to that M&F talk page has been waiting two months for no reply, so consider that page deader than disco. Case closed, methinks. I'm going to add one of those "This article is substantially duplicated by a piece in an external publication" tags here. Looking forward to getting this GA nom rolling! BarntToust 00:08, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

:::::@BarntToust, when I first wrote about this on 7 April, I edited slightly Lalo Schifrin lede (removed one word) and now pantheon site has "updated" itself with the new text conclusively demonstrating it lifts text from Wikipedia and provided evidence that this article is not a case of copyvio. I'll proceed with the rest of the review shortly. Tomobe03 (talk) 16:49, 11 April 2025 (UTC)

• Shouldn't "Military junta" in the lede be linked to National Reorganization Process?
• "Santaolalla moved to Los Angeles in the United States in 1978" reads odd to me. I assume that most english-speaking readers will assume it is the LA in the US and not some other. I'd recommend dropping "in the United States" bit.

:{{done}}

• "travelled from northern Argentina to Tierra del Fuego, near Antarctica" reads a bit odd - Tierra del Fuego is still quite far from Antarctica. I understand you meant the closest territory to Antarctica, but it's still 1000 km / 600 miles away. Could you rephrase this?

{{done}}

• A minor thing - at one point the prose says "Santaolalla continued using the ronroco, his signature instrument used in the first game's theme, as he felt it enhanced main character Ellie's qualities through feminine sounds", and later on "Santaolalla's signature instrument is the ronroco, which he has used..." Obviously it is his signature instrument, but it is redundant to tell it twice.

{{done}} - saved for later part, where encyclopedia discussion of it being the "signature" is more present, more so than a passing mention. BarntToust 20:31, 11 April 2025 (UTC)

• There are duplicate links, contrary to MOS, of the following items: Academy Award for Best Original Score, BMI, Latin Grammy Trustees Award.

{{partially done}} - All terms are first linked in the header. I removed the instances in the body, but per WP:DUPLINKS {{tq|Do not re-link in other sections if not contextually important there}}, so standard to keep them at the accolades section, where they are contextually important BarntToust 20:36, 11 April 2025 (UTC)

• Ref #8 is in order {{tick}}
• Ref #15 is in order {{tick}}
• Ref #21 is in order {{tick}}
• Ref #28 is in order {{tick}}
• Ref #33 is in order {{tick}}
• Ref #45 is in order {{tick}}

Referencing appears to be in order... only image review left!--Tomobe03 (talk) 14:48, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

• Santaolalla gieco gira.jpg appears to be copyrighted in the US and should not be used. -- EDIT: Maybe not, but the tag at the Commons is incorrect then. Let me check more. -- According to the Hirtle chart at the commons, the photo would be copyrighted if published with a copyright notice, but I don't see any way to verify that. Thoughts?--Tomobe03 (talk) 15:04, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
• :commons claims the pic was published 1985 in Clarín newspaper. No issue is given, no month or date, no crucial identifying info that one could take to Newspapers.com. Would do well to remove that now. BarntToust 15:11, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
• ::{{done}} that to be on the safe side. The pic had a listed author, but anywho the image is not there anymore. BarntToust 15:16, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
• :::Alright then, all other images appear to have acceptable licences. Tomobe03 (talk) 15:33, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
• ...and no issues with captions either.

This completes the GAR checklist. Happy to pass. Well done!--Tomobe03 (talk) 15:34, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

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