Talk:Janda Baik

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• {{tq|The village was first settled by three Bentong villagers in 1930 who moved when the city was flooded in 1926.}} Slightly edited. Currently using the word "city" to describe Bentong? Is that accurate or is there a better word for it? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:02, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

::The "city" refers to Bentong. WPSamson (talk) 02:41, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

:::{{Done}}. Leaving it as "city". —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:46, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

• {{tq|Although the village originally only focused on the agricultural industry, Janda Baik also focuses on the electronics and tourism industries today. The location is popular among families, corporations, and associations who choose the location for its tranquil setting. It is also popular among cyclists and trail runners due to good scenic views and the hills' challenging terrain.}} This paragraph teeters on promotion. I think with the exception of the first sentence, the rest should stay further down the article. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:02, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

::Just remove the rest of the sentence except the first sentence. WPSamson (talk) 02:41, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

:::{{Done}}. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:46, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

• {{tq|Residents then told the Sultan that Orang Asli tribes had previously settled here and doing agriculture activity by planting paddy and fruits.}} How is this relevant to the village being renamed? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:02, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

::Remove this sentence instead. WPSamson (talk) 02:41, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

:::{{Done}}. Removed. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:46, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

• {{tq|The name was accepted by the Sultan of Pahang. Janda refers to divorcee, while Baik refers to the word balik which refers to the divorcee returns to this village.}} Balik needs to be explained better: what does it have to do with the divorcee returning to the village? Doesn't janda describe that already? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:02, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

::I found another source already, so it need to be rewritten from:

::{{tq|The news about their reunion prompted the Orang Asli to rename the village to Janda Baik. The name was accepted by the Sultan of Pahang. Janda refers to divorcee, while Baik refers to the word balik which refers to the divorcee returns to this village.}}

::to: {{tq|The news about their reunion prompted the Orang Asli to rename the village to Janda Balik. Janda refers to divorcee in Malay language, while Balik refers to "return" in Malay language which refers to divorcee returns to this village. The name was accepted by the Sultan of Pahang.}}

::and add this new sentence: {{tq|Four weeks later after their reconcile, Sir Henry Peacock, Bentong district officer suggests that the name should be renamed to Janda Baik, as "baik" word in Malay refers to the relationship between Orang Asli chief Tok Batin Wok and his wife Siah has improved since the reconcile, hence the village was officially renamed to Janda Baik on 19 September 1936.}}

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{{cite news

| last = Mohd Noor

| first = Halina

| date = 2019-07-07

| title = Janda Baik, Janda Balik

| trans-title =

| url = https://www.bharian.com.my/hujung-minggu/santai/2019/07/582008/janda-baik-janda-balik

| language = ms

| work = Berita Harian

| location =

| access-date = 2020-08-15

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WPSamson (talk) 02:41, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

:::{{Done}}. Replaced with proposed text and citation. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:46, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

• {{tq|Those vegetables were then sold not just to customers, but also restaurants in Janda Baik.}} This sentence came out of nowhere. Is it supposed to connect to the previous sentence, and if so, how? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:02, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

::The word is supposed to connect with the previous sentence where the urban farmers sell the vegetables to both customers and restaurants in Janda Baik. WPSamson (talk) 02:41, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

:::{{Done}}. Introduced the subject to make it less ambiguous. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:46, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

• {{tq|Cyclists often ride to Janda Baik for the challenging terrain of the hills, scenic views, and plenty of great cuisines provided at variety restaurants in this village.}} I edited this a little already but there's some "puffy" words that act more to promote the area that give that information neutrally. Does this need to be included? It might be more appropriate at another Wikimedia project like WikiVoyage. this extends to the sentences after. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:02, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

::Include this section, it was mentioned in several articles [https://www.nst.com.my/lifestyle/jom/2018/09/407443/places-cool-janda-baik-nature-hotspot] [https://www.thestar.com.my/news/community/2011/08/05/gentingsempah-route-a-real-test-of-skill-for-cyclists/] [https://www.thestar.com.my/metro/community/2017/07/21/entrepreneurs-motivated-by-sharing-session-and-13km-ride] WPSamson (talk) 02:41, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

:::{{Done}}. It still sounds a little promotional to me, but this should do it.

• {{tq|The Malaysian government feared that a Federal Government's Minister may have been captured by communist guerillas.}} Somewhat edited already; what's the relevance to the plane crash? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:02, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

::Forgot to include this text for better clarity {{tq|...due to he previously took part in a fight against Japanese Red Army in the past from 1973 until 1981.}} From the same citation that cited in this sentence. WPSamson (talk) 02:41, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

:::{{Partly done}}. Partly reworded already, but is there a specific name that this fight is known by? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:46, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

::::{{replyto|Tenryuu}} Unfortunately the source / citation did not mention which specific fights he been taking part of. WPSamson (talk) 00:34, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

:::::{{Done}}. Generalised "fight" into "fights". —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:51, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

{{Ping|WPSamson}} Looking forward to your responses. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:02, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

:{{replyto|Tenryuu}} See the reply above for some info and changes to this article. WPSamson (talk) 02:41, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

::{{Re|WPSamson}} Thanks for responding. There's still one more question that can be answered, if you could. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 21:46, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

{{Ping|WPSamson}} Alright, my work is done here. Good luck with the GAN! —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 16:51, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

::{{reply to|Tenryuu}} Thanks WPSamson (talk) 17:00, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

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The weather table lists average days of rain, but the values from the source are daily chance of rain in %. Thus, the table says November averages 59 days of rain. The Weather Box template doesn't support daily chance of rain. I don't know enough about meteorology to know if it's a matter of simply multiplying the number of days in the month by the daily % chance of rain for the month.SESteve (talk) 11:00, 17 September 2021 (UTC)