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It should be "Sebastian Bach"

With "Johann Sebastian Bach" in the opening paragraph. Just like it's "Joseph Haydn" and then "Franz Joseph Haydn" in the paragraph. Nobody called him Johann. He was Sebastian. Borges123xyz (talk) 19:22, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

:Doesn't matter. The majority of secondary reliable sources call him Johann Sebastian Bach, so Wikipedia does too. Aza24 (talk) 19:34, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

::The preeminent biography of Bach, Christoph Wolff's JS Bach, the learned musician, calls him "Sebastian". Tony (talk) 02:19, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

:::Yes, but the average person is more likely to know him as "Johann Sebastian Bach," so per WP:COMMONNAME the current title should be kept. Benpiano800 (talk) 16:51, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

:::The biography's title is "Johann Sebastian Bach: The Learned Musician"..... Aza24 (talk) 17:05, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

::::I've worked at standardizing "Joseph Haydn" on Wikipedia -- but that is different because the reference sources generally call him that. J. S. Bach not so. Opus33 (talk) 05:04, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::There were quite a few Johanns in the extended family. Indeed about 40% of males had Johann as their first name. Wolff refers to him often as "Sebastian" in the body of his book. Tony (talk) 19:10, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Bach Revival

We read "Since the 19th-century Bach Revival, he has been widely regarded as one of the greatest composers in the history of Western music."

Wouldn't it be worth noting that Felix Mendelssohn precipitated this in 1829? That's an important piece of musical history. Charlie Faust (talk) 12:45, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

:As of now at least, the article says this. Perhaps amplify? Or write a separate article about this important event? Note that there is already a paragraph about it in the article about Mendelssohn. Opus33 (talk) 18:58, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Counterpoint Section

There are uses of the word 'I' in the Counterpoint section where it doesn't appear to be a quote. And some sentences are written in a confusing manner:

"From 1720, when he was thirty-five until he died in 1750, Bach's harmony consists of this melodic interweaving of independent melodies, so perfect in their union that each part seems to constitute the true melody. " Vschwartz37 (talk) 23:03, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

:As stated above it, this is part of a block quotation by Bach's biographer Johann Nikolaus Forkel. Remsense ‥  23:28, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

::Direct translation: "From about 1720, when he was thirty-five, until his death in 1750, Bach's harmony consists in this melodic interweaving of melodies, so perfect in their union that each part seems to constitute the true melody".

Caption for the third photo ("Wender organ") is wrong

File:Freiberger Dom 11.JPG in Dresden]]

The organ builder Wender died in the 1730s. Bach did play his instrument at the Bach Church in Arnstadt. But since then the organ has been replaced twice, each incorporating just one or two stops from the original. (I was shown organ number 2, and played it, in 1977; yet another organ has replaced that—call it number 3). So the Commons file is incorrectly labelled, and this has worked its way into the article. Tony (talk) 15:22, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

:German Wikipedia is telling us something like: "Construction of a new organ for the New Church, the successor building to the burned-down Bonifatius Church, today's Johann Sebastian Bach Church." Its likely best to state that this is the recent version of the organ following the one lost to fire damage. ErnestKrause (talk) 20:05, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

::No: that organ was replaced some time between 1977 (when I played it) and the early 2000s. The German WP is wrong if it's claiming otherwise. Tony (talk) 08:51, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

:Another organ played by Bach is in Dresden. ErnestKrause (talk) 20:18, 24 May 2025 (UTC)::Utterly irrelevant. Tony (talk) 08:53, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

:::This is in the wrong section, but I can't see how to find it in the edit box. Tony (talk) 08:58, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

::::Fixed. Indyguy (talk)

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Death

According to [https://archive.org/details/johannsebastianb03spituoft/page/274/mode/2up Spitta] though his death was blamed on ineffective eye surgery, he regained his eyesight on 18 July and was stuck down with apoplexy and a fever a few hours later, which were the proximate cause of his death on 28 July. ~~ All the best: Rich Farmbrough 17:32, 31 May 2025 (UTC).
17:32, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

:The last report that I've read on this was from c. 2000 from a Tampa newspaper here: [https://www.tampabay.com/archive/2000/05/26/bach-s-funeral-manuscript-found/]. Bach's burial at the time of his death apparently was not extensively rehearsed. Some relate that he was more or less taken directly for burial without much of even conventionally applied ceremony. ErnestKrause (talk) 22:30, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

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