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Talk:La Masia/GA1

GA Review

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:This review is transcluded from Talk:La Masia/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:58, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Please use T:AH to organize the talk page so I can understand the concerns of the prior reviewers. I think I see about three prior peer reviews and an official copy edit. I want to make sure I have an understanding of what the past issues have been.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:00, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

  • If the reason that this has not been done is because you are unfamiliar with the template and unable to convert the talk page yourself let me know.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:08, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
  • Gimmebot does that sometimes, I don't know how to. Sandman888 (talk) 18:18, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
  • O.K. I will do it myself in the next day or two and then begin the review.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:26, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
  • I just formatted it. I will look through the issues and start commenting in the next couple of days.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Opening comments:

;General

;LEAD

;History

  • It seems to me that La Liga should have a link.
  • Done Sandman888 (talk) 10:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
  • Is there no history between 1988 and 2007?
  • Not very much I'm afraid, most focuses on the recent success of Barcelona and Spain. Sandman888 (talk) 10:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
  • I don't understand this sentence: "The success of La Masia as a talent school has been ascribed by Ian Hawkey of The Times " and why isn't The Times linked?
  • Is it better now? Sandman888 (talk) 10:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
  • I don't understand the choice of the word ascribed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:29, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
  • Link some of these regions since many english speakers are not familiar with regions of Spain: About half of them were from Catalonia, and the rest came from other regions of the Kingdom of Spain and beyond, including 15 from Cameroon, 7 from Brazil, 5 from Senegal and 3 from Argentina. Of those 500, about 10 percent made it into the first team.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:11, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
  • All linked Sandman888 (talk) 10:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

;Organisation

  • You talk about the cost, but don't mention a tuition cost to the players.
  • comprise should probably be "are comprised of"
  • Is there a link for "2009 10 season"--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:38, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Checklist

:GA review (see here for criteria)

  1. It is reasonably well written.
  2. :a (prose): {{GAList/check|Y}} b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): {{GAList/check|Y}}
  3. ::
  4. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
  5. :a (references): {{GAList/check|Y}} b (citations to reliable sources): {{GAList/check|Y}} c (OR): {{GAList/check|Y}}
  6. ::
  7. It is broad in its coverage.
  8. :a (major aspects): {{GAList/check|?}} b (focused): {{GAList/check|Y}}
  9. :: This article is quite deficient in terms of covering the history.
  10. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
  11. :Fair representation without bias: {{GAList/check|Y}}
  12. ::
  13. It is stable.
  14. :No edit wars, etc.: {{GAList/check|Y}}
  15. ::
  16. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
  17. :a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): {{GAList/check|?}} b (appropriate use with suitable captions): {{GAList/check|Y}}
  18. :: I am not so sure about the licensing of :File:Masia-AmorFerrerMussonsGuardiola.jpg
  19. Overall:
  20. :Pass/Fail: {{GAList/check|Y}}
  21. :: Because of my concerns about the history, I am requesting a second opinion.

=2nd opinion=

  • Short of listing all of the players who graduated through the academy in the seven years between 1990 and 2007, I don't think that is a particular problem to have this "gap".
  • The word ascribe is a synonym of attribute, see wiktionary:ascribe. Jezhotwells (talk) 11:57, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
  • The image :File:Masia-AmorFerrerMussonsGuardiola.jpg. Tony asked me to look at the licensing. The license is definitely wrong. This is a photograph of a photograph, so the copyright belongs to the original photographer. I have nominated it for deletion at Commons, but it might be OK on English Wikipedia with a suitable fair use rationale. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:51, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
  • This article is on hold awaiting final responses from the editor.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:54, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
  • Thanks to both of you for the reviews. I've removed imaged and replaced ascribed with the synonym. Sandman888 (talk) 09:08, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

I am now satisfied and am passing this article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:10, 14 October 2010 (UTC)