Talk:Main Page#The meaning of Free

"and killed German prisoners of war." Would it not be more accurate to say 'and killed German war criminals'?

They were guards at Dachau, and since 2011, the court ruling was that "hat working as a guard at a camp whose only purpose was the extermination of its prisoners, was sufficient for a conviction for accessory to murder".

Seems like wording it this way is sugar-coating the conduct of these German guards, and denigrating the American soldiers (and camp inmates) who killed them. Not quite Holocaust denial, but similar to it. T bonham (talk) 06:37, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

:POW is neutral, whilst "war criminals" is loaded. What we've got is in line with WP policy. Schwede66 08:38, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

:Executing PoWs are also considered a war crime regardless of context. If you wish to introduce war crimes into the blurb, then the entire sentence should be restructured to do justice. GGOTCC 17:31, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

On June 20, the 50th anniversary of the release of the film Jaws, both TFA and PotD will mark the occasion. As the TFA scheduling coordinator for June, I picked a different image from the PotD to avoid duplication, but their text is similar to ours. I'm being proactive and asking for ideas as to how best to do this and avoid later criticism of duplication, etc. Potd: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:POTD/2025-06-20 here]; TFA [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Today%27s_featured_article/June_20,_2025 here].--Wehwalt (talk) 18:56, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

:Pinging @Dream out loud, who scheduled the POTD. Perhaps the POTD could be bumped back to 2026 (or even 2030 or 2035 for a round-number anniversary) to avoid duplication. Jay8g [V•T•E] 21:51, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

::I think it's OK if multiple projects feature the same theme as long as there is different content. I'm not suggesting any changes in the choices autonomous main page projects have made.Wehwalt (talk) 22:48, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

:{{Courtesy link|Template:POTD/2025-06-20|Courtesy links:}} and Wikipedia:Today's featured article/June 20, 2025. —⁠andrybak (talk) 01:27, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

::I like the call out to POTD in the TFA. If there was a similar call out in the POTD to TFA - Jaws is an American thriller film (see today's Featured Article) released June 20, 1975, directed by Steven Spielberg - we'd have fewer complaints, if any. Stephen 04:58, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

:I like Stephen's suggestion, and I think the conjunction is fine as is or with that tweak. My preference would be to rework the POTD blurb to focus more on the poster itself. There's interesting and relevant content to adapt in Jaws (film)#Marketing. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:06, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

::And the fact that the poster, one of the most iconic movie posters ever, is in the public domain due to being published without proper copyright notice per [https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Jaws_Illustration_(USCO_Review_Board,_2014) here], could be discussed. The publication without notice was the paperback that is illustrated in the TFA, tying things even closer together. Wehwalt (talk) 14:53, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

:::Let's try having the two, with references to both, and see what the community thinks. If there is backlash, we know never to do that again. I like the idea of the POTD blurb focusing on the poster and not the actual movie. Z1720 (talk) 15:20, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

::::OK, I've taken a swing at it. If people like it, we have plenty of time to fine-tune it. Wehwalt (talk) 17:38, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

:::::I’ve made a minor wording change to the TFA. I like what we’ve got now; it goes well together. Schwede66 21:12, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

:I think swapping for a different POTD would be a good idea, and then reusing this one in future years as Jay8g suggests. Next year or 2030 would both be fine. It gives the FA another day on the main page without being pointlessly duplicated, and means we can use a proper summary blurb for both. I know we have very occasionally done custom special occasion days, like the Apollo 11 anniversay in 2019, but these are very much IAR and I don't think apply here.  — Amakuru (talk) 20:36, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

::I agree, it would be better to defer the image for a year than to feature the same topic twice on the same day. OTD items are swapped out to avoid duplicating the TFA, so I think POTD should do the same. Modest Genius ^talk 14:25, 6 May 2025 (UTC)