User talk:Andrybak

Hi andrybak,

I have been working on improving the Thai Wikipedia's main page for the past year or so. Our inspiration, of course, comes from the English Wikipedia. I noticed that you have contributed to the page we based our work on, and we would greatly appreciate it if you could take some time to review our version of the code.

As we are a smaller wiki and the output from volunteer editors varies greatly over time, there is some deviation in the implementation of the FA and DYK sections. We decided not to set regular intervals for updates to these two sections, but rather to set release dates for the following month based on the content we have available in the current month. [If nothing is available to display, we show a message encouraging people to join our project as volunteer editors.]

Even after a year of working on this main page revamp, I only realized today that I have left an important technical loophole for the four pages (main/ -2 -1 +1 +2 days). It’s surprising to me that no one had noticed the broken pages until now.

My request is broken down into two specific questions:

1. Are the templates for FA :th:แม่แบบ:บทความแนะนำ and DYK :th:แม่แบบ:รู้ไหมว่า in good technical shape?
2. How can we fix the four pages (:th:วิกิพีเดีย:หน้าหลัก/วันก่อนเมื่อวาน :th:วิกิพีเดีย:หน้าหลัก/เมื่อวาน :th:วิกิพีเดีย:หน้าหลัก/พรุ่งนี้ :th:วิกิพีเดีย:หน้าหลัก/มะรืนนี้) to accommodate the two templates mentioned above? I’m thinking of passing a date parameter into the FA/DYK templates and possibly creating a single template for the main page that works with any date value (in case it’s needed elsewhere).

Thank you in advance for your time and assistance!

PS.

1. {{ping|Patsagorn_Y.}} My colleague working on this project is just promoted to admin on Thai Wikipedia and this can possibly speed up our work. The progress was very slow in the past.
2. BTW, apologies for the temporary issue with Wikipedia:Main Page/Day before yesterday. I mistakenly saved the code on the English Wikipedia instead of the intended page on the Thai Wikipedia. I reverted the change within a minute. This experience has made me realize that it's better to seek help from someone who recently edited the page for this project.

--Taweetham (talk) 05:41, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

I did not add the superfluous categories to my user page. If you want to do the work to find out how they got there, have at it. By the way, when I say My user page I mean the page I use to present information I wish to share. Did you use a bot or a script to make the edits? The editors of Wikipedia are people. Treat them as such. — Neonorange (talk to Phil) (he, they) 16:49, 31 January 2025 (UTC) —

:Wikipedia uses a categorization system which aids its readers and editors. Categorization of a page is done by placing special wikitext: to place a page into category called "Example", the following wikitext needs to be placed into the page:

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Category:Example

:A page can also be sorted in the category, with slightly different wikitext:

:

sort key

:On categorized pages, the categories can be seen at the bottom of the page. Some categories are hidden from users by default. They can be shown by enabling the checkbox {{myprefs|Appearance|Advanced options|check={{int:tog-showhiddencats}}}}.

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:Different categories are used for different kinds of pages:

:* Articles are put into categories based on encyclopedic topics, e.g. {{c|Biology}}.

:* Non-article pages are categorized into maintenance categories, e.g. for templates: {{c|Sports sidebar templates}}

:Instructional pages are put into the category tree of :Category:Wikipedia help. For example, the page Help:Category is currently placed into four visible categories:

:# :Category:Wikipedia information pages

:# :Category:Wikipedia categorization

:# :Category:Wikipedia how-to

:# :Category:Wikipedia page help

:and two hidden categories: {{c|Wikipedia semi-protected project pages}} and {{c|Wikipedia move-protected project pages}}.

:

:Wikipedians can put their user pages into the tree of categories under :Category:Wikipedians, e.g. :Category:User en-5 ({{tq|Wikipedians that are able to contribute with a professional level of English.}}) and :Category:Wikipedians interested in electronic music. These categories help editors find other editors with particular skills or interests.

:

:Pages which don't align with the intended contents of a category shouldn't be put into that category. The page User:Neonorange has been incorrectly categorized into the following categories:

:# {{c|Wikipedia tools}} and {{c|Wikipedia citation/link tools}} in the edit Special:Diff/1259733409 – this seems to be caused by copying wikitext from the bottom of the page Wikipedia:ProveIt, section "Userbox", which contains the corresponding categorization wikitext

:# {{c|Wikipedia copyright}} in the edit Special:Diff/1231233181. It comes from section {{section link|Wikipedia:Text copyright violations 101|Tools}}.

:# Addition of the following categories can be seen at the bottom of Special:Diff/1238902261, which is a copy of a portion of the page Wikipedia:Tip of the day, starting from the section "Alphabetical list of tips":

:#* {{c|Wikipedia WikiProjects}}

:#* {{c|Wikipedia help projects}}

:#* {{c|Wikipedia tips}}

:#* {{c|Wikipedia basic information}}

:#* {{c|Wikipedia FAQs}}

:#* {{c|Wikipedia help}}

:#* {{c|Wikipedia how-to}}

:#* {{c|Wikipedia information pages}}

:#* {{c|Wikipedia page help}}

:#* {{c|Wikipedia quick introductions}}

:When I stumbled upon incorrect categorization of the page User:Neonorange, I removed incorrect categorization in two edits: Special:Diff/1272733716 (a manual edit) and Special:Diff/1272733857 (using the gadget HotCat). You posted about it my talk page, and then reverted my edits, bringing back the wikitext of the incorrect categorization. I blanked the discussion and posted on your talk page instead. Lastly, you've posted on my talk page.

: If anything isn't clear, I'd be happy to clarify. —⁠andrybak (talk) 22:25, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

::Thank you for the helpful reply. I see now that the collapsible help file pointers that I copy/pasted to my user page had categories embedded. I had not checked that new categories had been added. Thank you again for being patient. — Neonorange (talk to Phil) (he, they) 03:09, 1 February 2025 (UTC) —

:::Neonorange, great. Do you need help removing incorrect categorization wikitext? —⁠andrybak (talk) 10:51, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

::::Thank you, but no. I guess I have been using HotCat so long I had forgotten that adding categories to a page was no more involver than adding the Wikitext. Good weather and sunshine to you. — Neonorange (talk to Phil) (he, they) 17:28, 1 February 2025 (UTC) —

:::::For the record, fixed in Special:Diff/1273986119. —⁠andrybak (talk) 19:01, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

Your recent change to Wikipedia:Database reports is not behaving in the way I think was intended. Instead of it stating the time/datestamp of the last update to Linked misspellings, it's repeating the contents of that page, {{tq|This table is generated by querying... etc}} to the database page when the LM table is empty. When LM table is populated, it's reporting nothing. Would you have a look at that and adjust? Thank you, Zinnober9 (talk) 17:39, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:Zinnober9, thank you for the report. The issue you're describing has nothing to do with the edit you mention related only to Wikipedia:Database reports/Template categories containing articles.

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:{{Strikethrough|However, it's easy to fix, because Wikipedia:Database reports/Linked misspellings has the same problem. It doesn't have a timestamp wrapped in {{tag|onlyinclude}}, the way the other reports do, and the way Template:DBR row expects.}} For example, at the very end of the first line of Wikipedia:Database reports/Articles by size:

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Articles ranked by total size, principal mainspace. -- Community Tech bot (talk) 00:12, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

:{{Strikethrough|I fixed the issue in Special:Diff/1286572487.}} Feel free to replace template {{tlx|Format revisiontimestamp}} with any other timestamp formatting wikitext. —⁠andrybak (talk) 19:01, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:: Zinnober9, please ignore the above. It turned out a bit more complicated than that. If you wish to dive into the rabbit hole, please see User talk:SDZeroBot#Keep footer for empty database reports. —⁠andrybak (talk) 19:39, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Thanks for the reply and looking into this. Sorry it wasn't something simple. Glad the issue has been identified and hope the SDZeroBot footer is adjusted in the next few days. Cheers, Zinnober9 (talk) 21:40, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

Idrk why you did this but why'd you edit my user page, just curious you might say something was wrong with the template but how'd you even find my user page? SpainMMAfan123 (talk) 04:58, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

:Hello, {{u|SpainMMAfan123}}, thank you for reaching out.

:Wikipedia uses a categorization system which aids its readers and editors. Categorization of a page is done by placing special wikitext: to place a page into category called "Example", the following wikitext needs to be placed into the page:

:

Category:Example

:A page can also be sorted in the category, with slightly different wikitext:

:

sort key

:On categorized pages, the categories can be seen at the bottom of the page. Different categories are used for different kinds of pages:

:* Articles are put into categories based on encyclopedic topics, e.g. {{c|Biology}}.

:* Non-article pages are categorized into maintenance categories.

:** E.g. for templates: {{c|Sports sidebar templates}} and {{c|User templates spa}}

:** Wikipedians can put their user pages into the tree of categories under :Category:Wikipedians, e.g. :Category:User es-N ({{tq|This is a list of Wikipedians who are native speakers of the Spanish language.}}) and :Category:Wikipedians interested in mixed martial arts. These categories help editors find other editors with particular skills or interests.

:Pages which don't align with the intended contents of a category shouldn't be put into that category. The page User:SpainMMAfan123 has been incorrectly categorized into the :Category:User templates spa in the edit Special:Diff/1283063785. This happened because instead of using wikitext {{tlc|User spa-3}}, which would tranclude the template, the whole wikitext of the Template:User spa-3 has been copy-pasted onto the page.

:The pages with such incorrect categorization have been found using Quarry at Special:Permalink/1287092647#User pages categorized as a user template.

:If anything isn't clear, I'd be happy to clarify. —⁠andrybak (talk) 21:21, 24 April 2025 (UTC)