Talk:Matiu / Somes Island/GA2

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Reviewer: Jonathanischoice (talk · contribs) 23:23, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Happy to review this over the next few days. I will build up comments below as I go. — Jon (talk) 23:23, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

: First things first, on first read through I agree with {{ul|Dr vulpes}}' assessments from GA1, so I will start from those assessments and carry on, starting with addressing and re-assessing comments left on GA1.—Jon (talk) 04:37, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

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style="vertical-align:top;" | colspan="3" | 1. {{Wikipedia:Good article criteria/GAC|1}}: {{GATable/item|1a|y|3=(See GA1) }} {{GATable/item|1b|y|lead ok; layout ok; w2w ok; fiction n/a; lists ok }}

style="vertical-align:top;" | colspan="3" | 2. {{Wikipedia:Good article criteria/GAC|2}}: {{GATable/item|2a|y|Satisfied }} {{GATable/item|2b|y|Satisfactory }} {{GATable/item|2c|y|3=(See GA1) }} {{GATable/item|2d|y|3=(See GA1) The {{copyvios|Matiu / Somes Island|label=copyvio report}} returns nothing alarming; the highest 32.4% result is a description from a 2009 Flickr image that was yoinked from a 2009 version of this article. }}

style="vertical-align:top;" | colspan="3" | 3. {{Wikipedia:Good article criteria/GAC|3}}: {{GATable/item|3a|y|Satisfied }} {{GATable/item|3b|y|Satisfied }} {{GATable/item|4|y|3=(See GA1) }} {{GATable/item|5|y|3=(See GA1) }}

style="vertical-align:top;" | colspan="3" | 6. {{Wikipedia:Good article criteria/GAC|6}}: {{GATable/item|6a|y|3=(See GA1) }} {{GATable/item|6b|y|3=(See GA1). Added birds gallery }} {{GATable/item|7|y|Excellent work! }}

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• I'm not sure if this qualifies as a GA criterion, but is there a good rationale for using {{tl|EngvarB}}? It may make more sense to switch to {{tl|Use New Zealand English}} which might be expected or more appropriate in an article related to New Zealand.

::Fixed Marshelec (talk) 23:39, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

• link "midden" ✓
• link "World War I" and "World War II" ✓
• lead, the sentence "The island was used for animal quarantine until 1995 and a maximum security animal quarantine station was built in 1968" is back to front. ✓ Reworded.
• link "environmental restoration" to restoration ecology ✓
• link to scientific reserves of New Zealand ✓
• link "settlement of claims" to Treaty of Waitangi claims and settlements ✓
• link "the Crown" to New Zealand Government (Realm of New Zealand, Governor-General of New Zealand, or Monarchy of New Zealand?) ✓ Chose Monarchy
• The map in the infobox frame is a bit odd. We're not concerned with the major arterial roads, for example. It should be possible to use the linked Wikidata item and OSM Relation to give us something like this, using {{tl|infobox mapframe}} or {{tl|maplink}}. Usually simply adding {{code|{{infobox mapframe}}}} somewhere in the {{code|location}} parameter is sufficient, usually before the text. It takes a {{code|zoom}} parameter, usually 8-12 is a good range (higher is more zoomed in).{{maplink|frame=yes |type=shape |id=Q1509894 |zoom=10 |text=Matiu / Somes Island, Wellington Harbour }} ✓ fixed after some unsuccessful attempts, with help from User:Turnagra :)

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• "1,000 years ago" needs to be a date; suggest using {{tl|circa}} ✓
• link "bilingual" to multilingualism ✓
• "colourful" needs either quotes + source or removal (editorialising) ✓
• when explaining the names, we need quotes or italics, e.g. "Matiu/Somes Island" is now written as "Matiu / Somes Island" ✓

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• Remove "150 years of news" in the Stuff article title in ref (12) for "Leper Island" ✓
• "Matiu / Somes Island is about 5 kilometres (3 mi) northwest of the much smaller Mākaro / Ward Island" seems back to front; the paragraph starts with Matiu and then describes its satellite islands. Instead, something like "the much smaller Mākaro / Ward Island lies {{convert|5|km}} southeast of Matiu" ✓
• link "tectonic activity" to tectonics ✓
• "Generally, this gully is a swampy area but it also represents an ephemeral watercourse and during and following heavy rain a small creek flows down it" is a bit long-winded with odd wording/prepositions; perhaps "The gully floor is/forms a swamp but an ephemeral watercourse/stream flows through it during periods of heavy rain" ✓
• link "ephemeral watercourse" to ephemeral stream (or its just-now updated target) ✓
• link "aquiclude" and/or "aquifer" (both to aquifer since aquiclude and aquitard are both explained there) ✓
• possibly aquiclude should be in italics if we are introducing a scientific term (depending on how we read MOS:ITALICS and MOS:JARGON)

::This may not be necessary given that the term is linked (and explained in the text anyway) Marshelec (talk) 04:14, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

:::Ok—Jon (talk) 05:30, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

• A personal niggle, but "necessitating" can almost always be "requiring" ✓

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• link Te Āti Awa ✓
• "and got its captain John Harewood to take them to the island" - got could be coerced or forced. ✓
• There is possibly too much detail in places, e.g. first paragraph of § "World War I internment camp", see GA 3(b) and WP:TMI ✓ Took out a sentence.
• Perhaps link "Swiss Consul" to foreign relations of Switzerland ✓
• In § "World War II internment camp": internees were allowed to stay in New Zealand if they wished since Europe was "in a mess" - MOS:EDITORIAL unless that is a direct quote from somewhere (quote marks and ref needed) ✓
• "In 1994, Italians erected a monument" - which Italians? ✓
• In § "Quarantine station to scientific reserve": the island "became part of Lower Hutt in 1989" should be more specific; was it Hutt County Council, or Lower Hutt City Council (which was formed at about that time)? ✓
• link "scientific and historical reserve" to scientific reserves of New Zealand and historic reserves of New Zealand ✓
• In § "Transfer of ownership": link "settlement of their claims" to Treaty of Waitangi claims and settlements ✓
• Italicise waharoa; in addition, use {{tl|lang}} for waharoa and Tane Te Waiora, and in general throughout the article when using italics to denote words in Te Reo Māori, e.g. {{code|{{lang|mi|waharoa}}}}. This gives the result in italics but with extra markup that helps with things like accessibility, screen readers, machine parsing, etc. ✓

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| image1 = Kakariki perched on a branch, looking.jpg

| image2 = North Island Robin-edit.jpg

| image3 = Puffinus gavia - SE Tasmania.jpg

| alt1 = Red-crowned parakeet|Kākāriki

| alt2 = North Island robin

| alt3 = Fluttering shearwater

| footer = Birds reintroduced to Matiu / Somes Island: kākāriki, top-left; North Island robin, top-right; fluttering shearwater, bottom.

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• The researchgate PDF download noted in GA1 can easily and should be replaced with the Notornis journal archive URL, which provides an open-access link to download the PDF: [https://www.birdsnz.org.nz/publications/numbers-of-spotted-shags-stictocarbo-punctatus-at-breeding-sites-in-wellington-harbour-2002-2012/]
• Introduce "Karo Busters" group, or perhaps replace with "volunteers" ✓
• In § "Pest eradication": possibly WP:TMI, perhaps just summarise to "DOC has continued to maintain the island's pest-free status", possibly mention the controlled access via the wharf ✓
• Second half of the "Reintroduction of invertebrates" section discusses reptiles, which are vertebrates; consider a "Reintroduction of reptiles" heading or rearranging ✓
• In § "Reintroduction of birds": suggest an image gallery of 2-3 good photographs of the birds in question (red-crowned kākāriki, North Island robin, shearwater), and possibly for invertebrates and reptiles sections too. Suggest using {{tl|multiple image}} which can be used as a compact thumb gallery; see "Types of traditional and military serpents" in the serpent article as a good example. Here's a starter for 10. ✓
• : Looking good! :) Jon (talk) 05:39, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

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• introduce (e.g. "New Zealand author") Maurice Gee, Oscar Knightley, Melanie Drewery, David McGill, Fort Dorset,✓ Bard Productions ✓
• : If the person is linked and it states that they wrote a book, do we need to describe each one as an author?Wainuiomartian (talk) 05:33, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
• :: It's for readers with no local context, per the WP:MOS (I can't remember where exactly, sorry). For example it's relevant context (which I didn't know!) that Oscar Knightley is "Samoan-born New Zealand actor, writer and director" given the subject of his play, and without the introductions they are just random people. Obviously (to kiwis) Maurice Gee is a novelist, but without the "New Zealand novelist" bit he could be a quantity surveyor who dabbles in writing for all we know. I just pinch the first sentence from their article lead, and use that :) — Jon (talk) 05:53, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
• :::okeydokey, done.Wainuiomartian (talk) 18:12, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
• link to The Tempest ✓

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• Ref 64 has the Stuff tagline "150 Years of News" in the title ✓
• Ref 67 and 71 are the same ref, suggest reusing with {{tl|rp}} as used in this article ✓
• Ref 104 and 108 are the same ✓

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