Talk:Michael Meldman#Career section

{{archive top|WP:NAC: Closing this request as declined about 3 days ago. COI editor can start a new discussion if there's a next time. Feel free to {{ping}} me, as my watch setting for this page will expire. Cheers! JFHJr (㊟) 03:24, 25 May 2024 (UTC)}}

Hi - I'm looking for help updating the Michael Meldman article. Mr. Meldman is now the Founder and Chairman (not CEO) as Brett White was [https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220524005396/en/Discovery-Land-Company-Plans-Global-Expansion-With-Brett-White-and-Michelle-Ngo appointed CEO in early 2022]. Also the article repeatedly refers to "Casamigos tequila" but the company name is "Casamigos Tequila" (upper case "T"). Finally, based on the [https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/204420241 IRS 990 forms] the Discovery Land Foundation has contributed over $30 Million since 2007, which may be material to that section of the article.

Disclosure - I am a paid contractor for the Discovery Land Company, and would greatly appreciate any help in getting the article updated. If there is another forum or format that would work better, please let me know. DiscoveryLandWiki (talk) 14:13, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

{{edit COI|d|CEO was removed; all else declined. JFHJr (㊟) 03:02, 21 May 2024 (UTC)}}

• Specific text to be added or removed:
• Michael Meldman is the Founder and Chairman, not CEO.
• The name of the company is "Casamigos Tequila" not "tequila"
• The Discovery Land Foundation has donated over $30 Million since 2007

• Reason for change - Out of date information and typos

• References supporting changes:
• https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220524005396/en/Discovery-Land-Company-Plans-Global-Expansion-With-Brett-White-and-Michelle-Ngo - no longer CEO
• https://uspto.report/TM/97920487 - "Casamigos Tequila"
• https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/204420241 - Discovery Land Foundation IRS 990 filings

19thholeEditor (talk) 14:13, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

:Greetings from WP:BLPN. Per a similar request there, I've removed the CEO wording at the request of the subject's apparent agent, but mostly because no reliable third-party source appeared to support it. In regards to your edit request, businesswire is categorically unreliable for WP:BLP content. See BLPN and WP:MOS for caps guidance. Government sources are primary, and are depreciated in favor of (or in conjunction with) at least one secondary source. Same goes for company tax filings listed on a third-party site: it remains a mere restatement of a primary source about the company because there's no in-depth non-numerical coverage that makes up something biographically significant about this human being. And nobody even cares about the corp charity unless some reliable third-party source indicates it's somehow biographically significant for this subject. Cheers. JFHJr (㊟) 03:00, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

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https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5985015/2024/12/11/nfl-approve-raiders-sale/

https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/raiders/nfl-approves-2-more-purchases-of-ownership-in-raiders-3226639/#:~:text=DALLAS%20%E2%80%94%20NFL%20owners%20unanimously%20approved,and%20Michael%20Meldman%20on%20Wednesday

https://news3lv.com/news/local/nfl-owners-approve-another-sale-of-las-vegas-raiders-minority-stake-mark-davis-pro-football-sports-tom-brady-richard-seymour

As for the transactions with Wagner, Durban and Meldman, the primary motivator appears to be Davis becoming more liquid. The value of the Raiders has skyrocketed since their relocation from Oakland to Las Vegas. Earlier this year, CNBC valued the franchise at $7.8 billion. While the exact terms are unknown, Davis earned hundreds of millions of dollars by selling stakes to Brady, Seymour, Wagner, Durban and Meldman collectively. 70.170.91.72 (talk) 21:04, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

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Hello,

I have a few proposals for this article.

For this request, I would like to look at Michael Meldman's personal life information. There is a citation needed tag in the Early life section and there is not any proper place for information on his life now, such as a Personal life section (which I will suggest below).

Please consider the following to the Early History section:

• Change "Scottsdale, Arizona" to "Phoenix, Arizona"{{Cite web|last=Millington|first=Alison|title=George Clooney and Rande Gerber have a third partner in their $1 billion tequila company, and he happens to be a real estate tycoon|url=https://www.businessinsider.com/george-clooney-rande-gerber-casamigos-mike-meldman-real-estate-tycoon-2018-11|access-date=January 6, 2021|website=Business Insider}}{{cite news |url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/developer-mike-meldman-is-real-estates-party-boy-1452783341 |last= Keates |first= Nancy |title=Developer Mike Meldman Is Real Estate's Party Boy |newspaper=The Wall Street Journal |date=January 14, 2016}}
• This is because Scottsdale is inaccurate. This should also fix the citations needed tag.
• Add content: His father worked in insurance and his mother was a writer and book reviewer.{{cite news |url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/developer-mike-meldman-is-real-estates-party-boy-1452783341 |last= Keates |first= Nancy |title=Developer Mike Meldman Is Real Estate's Party Boy |newspaper=The Wall Street Journal |date=January 14, 2016}}
• This request is to fill out the section with more information.
• Fix content in this section. Michael graduated from Stanford in 1981, not 1982, as per the Wall Street Journal.{{cite news |url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/developer-mike-meldman-is-real-estates-party-boy-1452783341 |last= Keates |first= Nancy |title=Developer Mike Meldman Is Real Estate's Party Boy |newspaper=The Wall Street Journal |date=January 14, 2016}}
• This request is to fix an inaccuracy
• Please note this inaccuracy is also in the Career section and could be updated there as well.
• At the end of the sentence, "He graduated from Stanford University in 1981." add a clause and new sentences: ", where he studied history and originally planned to be a lawyer.{{cite news |url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/developer-mike-meldman-is-real-estates-party-boy-1452783341 |last= Keates |first= Nancy |title=Developer Mike Meldman Is Real Estate's Party Boy |newspaper=The Wall Street Journal |date=January 14, 2016}}
• This is to add more background
• Add two new sentences: He was a member of Theta Delta Chi.{{Cite web|date=June 17, 2020|title=How Discovery Land Company's Mike Meldman Develops the World's Most Exclusive Private Clubs and Resort Communities|url=https://csq.com/2020/06/how-discovery-land-companys-mike-meldman-develops-the-worlds-most-exclusive-private-clubs-and-resort-communities/ |access-date=January 6, 2021|website=CSQ {{!}} C-Suite Quarterly|language=en}}{{cite news |url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/developer-mike-meldman-is-real-estates-party-boy-1452783341 |last= Keates |first= Nancy |title=Developer Mike Meldman Is Real Estate's Party Boy |newspaper=The Wall Street Journal |date=January 14, 2016}} He planned to be a lawyer but failed the Law School Admission Test. He later worked as a Blackjack dealer in Lake Tahoe.{{cite news |last1=Solo-Lyons |first1=Natasha |title=Mike Meldman is one of the most influential real-estate moguls in the country thanks to his luxurious live-in resorts, which became irresistible to the rich and famous during the pandemic |url=https://www.businessinsider.com/mike-meldman-discovery-land-resorts-luxury-real-estate-casamigos-tequila-2021-6 |access-date=16 December 2024 |work=Business Insider |date=4 June 2021 |archive-url=https://archive.ph/3zJw5 |archive-date=7 Oct 2024}}
• This is to add relevant background to this section.

Additionally, please consider adding a Personal life section for non-career information on Meldman. In this new section, I would like to propose the following text:

• Meldman has three sons.{{Cite web|last=Millington|first=Alison|title=George Clooney and Rande Gerber have a third partner in their $1 billion tequila company, and he happens to be a real estate tycoon|url=https://www.businessinsider.com/george-clooney-rande-gerber-casamigos-mike-meldman-real-estate-tycoon-2018-11|access-date=January 6, 2021|website=Business Insider}}

As a disclosure, I do possess a conflict of interest as an employee of Discovery Land Company.

Thank you for reviewing this request. AmandaDLC (talk) 22:29, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

:Hello @User:AmandaDLC. I'd like to note that I do intend to review this some time in the future. Sorry for the long wait and thank you for the patience. Tarlby ^{(t) (c)} 03:55, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

{{reflist-talk}} AmandaDLC (talk) 22:29, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

::{{ping|Tarlby}} Thanks! Again, let me know if you have any questions. AmandaDLC (talk) 17:30, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

:{{Respond|greencheck2|Done}} with tweaks. Tarlby ^{(t) (c)} 16:39, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

::: Thank you {{ping|Tarlby}}! I agree with the tweaks you made. It recently has come to my attention that I requested something that is actually technically inaccurate, so I apologize. I have been informed that the LSATs do not have a pass/fail threshhold{{cite news |last1=Welker |first1=Bryce |title=LSAT Pass Rate: What You Need to Know |url=https://www.miamiherald.com/careers-education/lsat-pass-rate/ |access-date=11 March 2025 |work=Miami Herald |date=4 September 2024}} so it quite literally is impossible for Meldman to have failed them. Apologize for this error. Can "Meldman failed the Law School Admission Test" be removed?

::: Thanks for the review AmandaDLC (talk) 19:07, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

::::I've decided to change it to "Meldman performed poorly" rather than just fail. Do you think this works? Tarlby ^{(t) (c)} 19:36, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

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::::: {{ping|Tarlby}} While an improvement, I am still wondering if it should be removed since it is attributed to a quote about his opinion of his own performance. Thoughts?

::::: Thanks! AmandaDLC (talk) 17:05, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

::::::It seems like an uncontroversial tidbit of his life. I'm fine with keeping it. Tarlby ^{(t) (c)} 17:53, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

:::::::{{ping|Tarlby}} I see what you mean! Perhaps a little context then on why this is an important detail to include is warranted? Otherwise it reads disjointed.

::::::: *Meldman attributed his poor performance on the Law School Admission Test as the best thing that happened to him. His performance led him to begin working as a Blackjack dealer in Lake Tahoe.{{cite news |last1=Pressberg |first1=Matt |title=How Discovery Land Company’s Mike Meldman Develops the World’s Most Exclusive Private Clubs and Resort Communities - CSQ {{!}} C-Suite Quarterly |url=https://csq.com/2020/06/how-discovery-land-companys-mike-meldman-develops-the-worlds-most-exclusive-private-clubs-and-resort-communities/ |access-date=19 March 2025 |work=CSQ {{!}} C-Suite Quarterly - The Voice of the C-Suite |date=17 June 2020 |language=en}}

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::::::: I also updated the source for this. Let me know what you think, thanks! AmandaDLC (talk) 17:26, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

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{{ping|Tarlby}} While you review my last note, I had another proposal for this article I wanted to present.

• Add to the Early and personal life section: He was a member of Theta Delta Chi.{{Cite web|date=June 17, 2020|title=How Discovery Land Company's Mike Meldman Develops the World's Most Exclusive Private Clubs and Resort Communities|url=https://csq.com/2020/06/how-discovery-land-companys-mike-meldman-develops-the-worlds-most-exclusive-private-clubs-and-resort-communities/ |access-date=January 6, 2021|website=CSQ {{!}} C-Suite Quarterly|language=en}}{{cite news |url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/developer-mike-meldman-is-real-estates-party-boy-1452783341 |last= Keates |first= Nancy |title=Developer Mike Meldman Is Real Estate's Party Boy |newspaper=The Wall Street Journal |date=January 14, 2016}}
• This is to add some more background
• In the phrase, "he began a career in residential real estate" I would like to suggest removing the word "residential".
• This is because the properties on Discovery Land Company are not solely residential so this is inaccurate.
• Add to the Career section: His first position was as a commercial broker. Meldman financed his first property, a 300-acre lot in Portola Valley, California named Blue Oaks, through three friends in the 1980s.{{cite news |last1=Solo-Lyons |first1=Natasha |title=Mike Meldman is one of the most influential real-estate moguls in the country thanks to his luxurious live-in resorts, which became irresistible to the rich and famous during the pandemic |url=https://www.businessinsider.com/mike-meldman-discovery-land-resorts-luxury-real-estate-casamigos-tequila-2021-6 |access-date=16 December 2024 |work=Business Insider |date=4 June 2021 |archive-url=https://archive.ph/3zJw5 |archive-date=7 Oct 2024}}
• This request is to add early career history
• Replace the sentence "In 1994, he launched Discovery Land Company with his first development, The Estancia Club, in his hometown of Scottsdale." with " In 1994, he launched Discovery Land Company. Two years later, with he opened his first resort development, The Estancia Club, in Scottsdale.{{Cite news|last=Keates|first=Nancy|date=January 14, 2016|title=Developer Mike Meldman Is Real Estate's Party Boy|language=en-US|work=Wall Street Journal|url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/developer-mike-meldman-is-real-estates-party-boy-1452783341 |access-date=January 6, 2021|issn=0099-9660}}"
• This is to add some nuance, as The Estancia did not launch until after two years of the formation of DLC.
• Replace: "Since Estancia, Meldman and Discovery Land Company have developed 25 total clubs in the Pacific, Caribbean, Europe, and North America." with "Since The Estancia Club, Meldman and Discovery Land Company operates over 35 high-end residential communities globally, as of 2024.{{cite news |last1=Collins |first1=Leah |title=This ultra-luxe, ultra-exclusive community in the desert is selling plots for up to $50 million |url=https://www.cnn.com/travel/dubai-discovery-dunes-luxury-community-spc-intl/index.html |access-date=13 January 2025 |work=CNN |date=22 May 2024 |language=en}}"
• This is for accuracy and grammar
• Add to the Career section: Meldman credits his sons as his influence for his properties, as the locations are catered toward families.{{cite news |url=https://www.wsj.com/articles/developer-mike-meldman-is-real-estates-party-boy-1452783341 |last= Keates |first= Nancy |title=Developer Mike Meldman Is Real Estate's Party Boy |newspaper=The Wall Street Journal |date=January 14, 2016}}
• This is to provide context to the section
• Remove: Meldman's employees include Jack Brooksbank, husband of Princess Eugenie of York.
• This is unsourced and this does not seem like a detail necessary for a biography.

{{Done}}, it was sourced but I agree this is unnecessary namedropping. May review the rest, but if not other editors should feel free to take this. Rusalkii (talk) 20:17, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

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As a disclosure, I do possess a conflict of interest as an employee of Discovery Land Company.

Thank you for reviewing this request. AmandaDLC (talk) 16:43, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

::{{ping|Tarlby}} Hi! It seems you are pretty busy with your main projects these past few days so I wanted to see if you still had an interest in this page and the Discovery Land Company page. I wanted to ask before I put this into the edit queue for other editors to consider. AmandaDLC (talk) 22:04, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

:::Thanks for asking. My attention is mostly put up with my article now, so I probably might not be coming back to answer this soon. Good luck. Tarlby ^{(t) (c)} 17:22, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

::::{{ping|Tarlby}} I understand! Thanks for the quick reply and good luck with your endeavors! AmandaDLC (talk) 17:13, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

:::::{{ping|Rusalkii}} Thanks for reviewing part of this! Let me know if you have any questions on the other bullet points, should you choose to review the rest of the request. AmandaDLC (talk) 21:23, 29 April 2025 (UTC)