Talk:New Jersey Route 158

It seems strange that a bridge in the United States would use the British/Canadian spelling. Can anyone confirm that the spelling is correct? --Jrsnbarn 18:16, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

:Most old maps, back to 1853, show the street as Centre Street: [http://mapmaker.rutgers.edu/NEWARK/oldNewark.html] This spelling is also used in newspaper articles: [http://query.nytimes.com/search/query?frow=0&n=10&srcht=s&daterange=period&query=%22centre+street+bridge%22+newark&srchst=p&submit.x=0&submit.y=0&submit=sub&hdlquery=&bylquery=&mon1=09&day1=18&year1=1851&mon2=12&day2=31&year2=1980] --NE2 20:28, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Taft Place and NJ Railroad Ave. are 2 separate streets in town. NJRR Ave has been in existence for a long time, Taft Place came to be in the late 1970's/early 1980's and these 2 streets parallel one another.

Taft Place named for William Taft (councilman, Board of Education, Teacher)

NJ Railroad Ave, is named for railroad that runs along side it

If any further info is needed please let me know.

--Witchzilla 16:23, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree that the article should be moved back to the bridge article. Seeing as there isn't a discussion, I'll start one up. If the article is to stay where it is, shouldn't there be a section on its history as a route, instead of two sections on bridges? ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:16, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

:From the start, I felt that the article should have remained at the bridge title. In the GA review, I had requested that it be moved back to the original title, as I thought the information about the Centre Street Bridge as a railroad bridge had nothing to do with Route 158, making "New Jersey Route 158" an inappropriate title. The article can have three sections: one describing the history as a railroad bridge, one descrbing the history of the road bridge, and one describing the history of the route number. {{infobox bridge}}, describing all the historical information about the bridge and including a picture, should be used in place of {{infobox road}} describing Route 158 and a Route 158 shield can be added to the history of the route number sectiion along with the Route 25AD shield. In addition, the browse for Route 158 can be moved to the bottom of the page and {{Crossings navbox}} can be used to show what bridge is upstream and what bridge is downstream. Dough4872 (talk) 14:46, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

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When does the Pennsylvania Railroad/Penn Central abandon rail service over the bridge? I think it has to be before 1976; the USRA final system plan gives the "Center Street Branch" a length of 1 mile, between "Harrison" and "HarrisonFrtSta" (presumably Harrison freight station). Mackensen (talk) 22:49, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

I've been working on a parallel topic with some overlap: User:Mackensen/Center Street Branch. In the course of doing this I've referred to the sources cited in this article, and I can't verify some of the claims here, especially anything to do with the subsequent usage of the upper deck as a road bridge. That's especially concerning given the current article title. Mackensen (talk) 17:48, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

:{{ping|Mitchazenia}} Any thoughts? --Rschen7754 17:58, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

:To be clear, I'm not doubting that any of this is true, I'm just saying that I can't verify it. Mackensen (talk) 18:03, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

::There are a few things that I've questioned over the years on this subject, particularly to the existence of NJ 158. NJ 25AD definitely existed. 158 seems to be up in the air. I can do more research on Monday, but there's a good chance this entire article might have to go poof. NJ 25AD isnt enough on its own to exist and would just be part of the NJ 25 article. Mitch32^{(won't you be my neighbor?)} 00:51, 26 March 2023 (UTC)