Talk:Noah Oppenheim

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I’d like to request an update to this article. As disclosed above, I have a conflict of interest as a paid consultant to NBC News. The requests regarding his tenure as president of NBC News are especially important because of WP:DUE. Right now, other than his appointment as president, there’s nothing at all about what he actually has done. The only content currently in the article about his tenure as NBC News president are three controversies, two of which are about events that happened decades earlier. Career achievements, supported by reliable sources, are more relevant to a WP: BLP than sensationalist accusations.

1.

In the Career section, please add the following new paragraph as the second paragraph of the NBC News subsection:

Under Oppenheim, in May 2019 NBC News launched a streaming service called NBC News Now.{{cite news |last1=Munson |first1=Ben |title=NBC News Now ad-supported streaming service launches |url=https://www.fiercevideo.com/video/nbc-news-now-ad-supported-streaming-service-officially-launches |access-date=24 January 2022 |work=Fierce Video |date=29 May 2019}}{{cite news |last1=Perez |first1=Sarah |title=NBC’s free news-streaming service, NBC News Now, will launch in May |url=https://techcrunch.com/2019/03/11/nbcs-free-news-streaming-service-nbc-news-now-will-launch-in-may/ |access-date=24 January 2022 |work=TechCrunch |date=11 March 2019}} In December 2021, Oppenheim said competition was intensifying to become the preferred new streaming service as consumer habits shifted toward dedicated streaming platforms.{{cite news |last1=Steinberg |first1=Brian |title=TV’s Biggest Newsrooms Poised for 2022 Surge in Streaming Wars |url=https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/tv-news-streaming-wars-cnn-fox-news-abc-news-1235143944/ |access-date=20 January 2022 |work=Variety |date=28 December 2021}}{{cite news |last1=Steinberg |first1=Brian |title=NBC News Has Ambitious Streaming Plans For Election Night |url=https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/nbc-news-streaming-election-night-chuck-todd-kristen-welker-1235097343/ |access-date=20 January 2022 |work=Variety |date=26 October 2021}}

Reason: Oppenheim’s push into streaming services is an important recent development in his career as president of NBC News. The media is keeping a close watch on these developments, which are changing up seven decades of broadcast news norms.

2.

In the Career section, please add the following as the new third paragraph of the NBC News subsection:

In June 2019, Oppenheim was one of three heads of U.S. broadcast news outlets to promise that coverage of the 2020 presidential election cycle to be more in-depth and “nuanced.” Oppenheim said NBC News was hiring a large number of journalists to cover the election campaign, including journalists from local papers around the country who were knowledgeable about their region.{{cite news |last1=Steinberg |first1=Brian |title=Broadcast News Chiefs Vow Deeper Coverage in 2020 Election |url=https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/tv-news-2020-election-cbs-abc-nbc-zirinsky-1203234909/ |access-date=20 January 2022 |work=Variety |date=6 June 2019}} In August 2020, Oppenheim said NBC News had doubled the number of staff tasked with covering election security and misinformation.{{cite news |last1=Smith |first1=Ben |title=How the Media Could Get the Election Story Wrong |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/02/business/media/election-coverage.html |access-date=20 January 2022 |work=New York Times |date=2 August 2020}} But he said he was trying to avoid a “self-fulfilling prophecy of [electoral] chaos and confusion.” “Frankly, the well-being of the country depends on us being cautious, disciplined and unassailably correct,” he told The New York Times.{{cite news |last1=Grynbaum |first1=Michael M. |title=Networks Pledge Caution for an Election Night Like No Other |url=https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/31/business/media/election-night-tv-networks.html |access-date=20 January 2022 |work=New York Times |date=31 October 2020}}

Reason: This paragraph adds noteworthy details about a critical component of Oppenheim’s career, the 2020 U.S. presidential election coverage. It also is about his role in an important historical event, so I’ve given it somewhat more weight than a simple career development - thus, the quotes from The New York Times. I mostly stuck to The New York Times as a supporting source since it shows a tier-one reliable source believed the events, and Oppenheim’s role at NBC News, were very important. I realize this is a judgment call, but since the controversies are so detailed and numerous, it also seems in keeping with the proper weighting of the article when it comes to level of detail.

3.

In the Career section, in the NBC News subsection, please add the following new fourth paragraph:

In early 2020, Oppenheim launched a new division of NBC News called NBC News Studios,{{cite news |last1=Lindahl |first1=Chris |title=News Orgs Are the Next Breed of Doc Heavy-Hitters; At Sundance, They’re Ready to Buy Big |url=https://www.indiewire.com/2022/01/sundance-2022-documentary-buyers-1234691874/ |access-date=21 January 2022 |work=IndieWire |date=20 January 2022}}{{cite news |last1=Steinberg |first1=Brian |title=Why NBC News Is Going to the Movies |url=https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/nbc-news-studios-tiff-memory-box-1235060929/ |access-date=20 January 2022 |work=Variety |date=10 September 2021}}, which produces feature-length non-fiction programs longer than the network’s traditional 30- or 60-minute length news programs. Oppenheim was an executive producer for the NBC News Studios feature Memory Box: Echoes of 9/11, a retrospective film examining the recollections of survivors of the September 11 attacks twenty years after the event.{{cite news |last1=Hailu |first1=Selome |title=How Television Networks Will Commemorate the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 |url=https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/television-20th-anniversary-9-11-1235055181/ |access-date=24 January 2022 |work=Variety |date=3 September 2021}}

Reason: This is a new unit of NBC News that was developed under Oppenheim’s direction. His role was reported by the press and NBC News Studios has already produced several prominent feature documentary programs. He personally executive produced on feature film, covered in Variety, so I suggest including that as well.

4.

In the Career section, in the NBC News subsection please add the following as the new sixth paragraph

In September 2021, at the 42nd News & Documentary Emmy Awards Oppenheim was part of a team which won a News & Documentary Emmy award for “Best Live Interview” his role as an executive producer of the NBC News Special: Trump Town Hall.{{cite web |title=42nd Annual News and Documentary Emmy Award Winners |url=https://theemmys.tv/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/news-42nd-news-programming-winners.pdf |website=The National Academy of Television Arts & Sciences |access-date=30 September 2021}}

Reason: Winning an Emmy award is probably in and of itself a justification for notability on Wikipedia, so I think merits inclusion on his bio. The source is WP:PRIMARY but is directly from the National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences, the awarding body of the Emmys, so the fact is verifiable. I think this source is sufficient under WP:PRIMARY criteria for establishing a straightforward fact, though I would prefer if the Academy published the winners as a web page instead of a PDF.

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Please add the following sentence to third sentence of the lead:

As a screenwriter, Oppenheim wrote the film Jackie, for which he won best screenplay at the 73rd Venice International Film Festival, {{cite news |last1=Johnson |first1=Ted |title=PopPolitics: Noah Oppenheim on the Limits of Dramatic License in ‘Jackie’ |url=https://variety.com/2016/film/news/jackie-noah-oppenheim-1201945020/ |access-date=28 January 2021 |work=Variety |date=18 December 2016}}{{cite news |last1=Ellwood |first1=Gregory |title=Noah Oppenheim On ‘Bizarre’ Back And Forth Of Making ‘Jackie’ And Covering The Election |url=https://theplaylist.net/noah-oppenheim-bizarre-back-forth-making-jackie-covering-election-20161202/ |access-date=28 January 2021 |work=Playlist |date=2 December 2016}} and co-wrote the scripts for The Maze Runner and The Divergent Series: Allegiant.{{cite news |last1=Ford |first1=Rebecca |title=‘Divergent’ Threequel ‘Allegiant’ Taps ‘Maze Runner’ Writer (Exclusive) |url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/maze-runner-writer-adapt-divergent-717276/ |access-date=28 January 2021 |work=Hollywood Reporter |date=9 July 2014}}{{cite news |last1=Anderson |first1=Soren |title=‘The Divergent Series: Allegiant’: A descent into sci-fi action, confusion |url=https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/movies/the-divergent-series-allegiant-a-descent-into-sci-fi-action-confusion/ |access-date=20 January 2022 |work=Seattle Times |date=17 March 2016}}

Reason: All three of these films were released by major studios and two of the three were blockbusters. The Maze Runner grossed about $385 million domestic + foreign [https://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdown/sd3309106692/] and The Divergent Allegiance grossed $179.2 million [https://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdown/sd423425540/]. For the third film, Jackie, Oppenheim won best screenplay at 73rd Venice International Film Festival, a major award. For these reasons, and the press coverage, it seems that the screenwriting credits should be in the lead, as they would be if he were just a screenwriter. Of the three, “Jackie” is the most prestigious and relevant to the lead because of the Best Screenplay award at Venice.

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I am pinging {{ping|ScottishFinnishRadish}}, {{ping|tedder}} and {{ping|ActivelyDisinterested}} since they recently addressed a Request Edit for this article. I think is in accordance with WP: Canvas as an “appropriate notification” since I’m notifying everyone who was involved in the previous RE. User: Quetstar retired from answering Request Edits,Wikipedia_talk:Edit_requests#Issues with editor reviewing Requested Edits, but is also getting this notification. I am only bothering with pings because the last RE took eight months to get properly reviewed and these editors worked out a system for multiple reviewers that would not overly tax their time. If anyone thinks there is a Canvas problem, then just leave a note and it can wait in the queue.

Thank you for your consideration. BC1278 (talk) 19:35, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

:@BC1278 I am not retired, I'm on an indefinite break until further notice. Quetstar (talk) 22:08, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

::I'd also like to state that we can't have everyting in this article. It should only have the most important things about him. Quetstar (talk) 22:11, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

:::Whether content is included on a page should be determined by quite a few things, including the nature and extent of press coverage of an event, the nature of an achievement or failure as typically treated on Wikipedia (e.g. winning an important award) and due WP:Weight. Minor awards, board seats and jobs that were never covered by the press can make a BLP read like a resume. I have found reading similar WP:FA and WP: GA to be very helpful and I sometimes think about relevancy by asking whether the content moves an article closer to a FA/GA in a similar category. For example, this FA of a businessperson: Finn M. W. Caspersen and these GAs of business people: Charles F. Conrad, Jordan Geller, Paul S. Walsh. BC1278 (talk) 23:30, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

::::File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Declined due to inactivity, anyone may reopen this ER at any time. Quetstar (talk) 01:28, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

:::::*Re-opened. The Request Edit queue has a long wait. The long wait is not a reason to decline a request. This is unhelpful. BC1278 (talk) 01:38, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

:*File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Overall, these seem undue to me. Many of the sources only mention Oppenheim in passing, and even the ones that quote him more extensively don't really seem to indicate that this is something significant to his personal biography - it doesn't make sense to list everything that happened during his tenure, or even to list every individual thing he ever did. I'm also concerned about WP:COIRESPONSE point 2 - I understand that you feel that this is necessary to balance out what you consider {{tq|sensationalist accusations}}, but by my reading COIRESPONSE specifically says to be cautious about that. --Aquillion (talk) 05:13, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

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Please consider the following updates to this page. It includes his stepping down as president of NBC News and signing a TV and film production deal with NBC Universal. As disclosed above, I have a COI as a paid consultant to NBC News.

1. In the Career section, Writing subsection, please add the following sentence to the end of the paragraph:

In November 2022, Variety reported that Oppenheim and Eric Newman co-wrote a political thriller series in production for Netflix. The series, called Zero Day, stars Robert de Niro, who is also an executive producer on the project, as a former US president.{{cite news |last1=Otterson |first1=Joe |title=Robert De Niro to Star in Netflix Political Thriller Series ‘Zero Day’ From Eric Newman, Noah Oppenheim, Jonathan Glickman (EXCLUSIVE) |url=https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/robert-de-niro-netflix-series-eric-newman-noah-oppenheim-1235443642/ |access-date=13 December 2022 |work=Variety |date=30 November 2022}}

Rationale: This is a significant development in Oppenheim’s entertainment career, as evidenced by the coverage in the most authoritative entertainment industry publication, Variety.

2. In the Career section, NBC News subsection, please add the following as a new final paragraph to the section:

In 2021, Oppenheim served as executive producer on the NBC News Studios projects The Thing About Pam{{cite news |last1=Andreeva |first1=Nellie |title=‘The Thing About Pam’: Jenny Klein Named Showrunner Of NBC Limited Series As Jessika Borsicsky Exits |url=https://deadline.com/2021/08/the-thing-about-pam-jenny-klein-named-showrunner-jessika-borsicsky-exits-nbc-limited-series-1234821099/ |access-date=14 December 2022 |work=Deadline |date=24 August 2021}}{{cite news |last1=Garrett |first1=Diane |title=‘The Thing About Pam’: How NBC Took the Twisty Murder Case From ‘Dateline’ to Renee Zellweger TV Series |url=https://variety.com/2022/tv/features/thing-about-pam-nbc-news-adaptation-renee-zellweger-1235196124/ |access-date=15 December 2022 |work=Variety |date=4 March 2022}}{{cite web |title=Noah Oppenheim |url=https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3834300/ |website=IMDB |publisher=IMDB |access-date=16 December 2022}} and Memory Box: Echoes of 9/11.{{cite news |last1=Steinberg |first1=Brian |title=Why NBC News Is Going to the Movies |url=https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/nbc-news-studios-tiff-memory-box-1235060929/ |access-date=14 December 2022 |work=Variety |date=10 September 2021}}{{cite web |title=Noah Oppenheim |url=https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3834300/ |website=IMDB |publisher=IMDB |access-date=16 December 2022}}

Rationale: I previously mentioned one of these two documentaries in a proposal to add a new sub-subsection about NBC News Studios in January of 2022. This is a narrower request to simply add his role as executive producer of these two films to the existing NBC News subsection.

3. Please add the following sentence to the end of the section paragraph of the Career section, NBC News subsection:

In March 2022, Oppenheim told Variety that NBC News Studios was launching in the United Kingdom as the first phase of a planned overseas expansion for the streaming service outside of North America, explaining that the UK was chosen in part because it was “a hub of our global news gathering operations.”{{cite news |last1=Ramachandran |first1=Naman |title=NBC News Now Launches in the U.K. on Sky and Virgin Media, Sets International Expansion Plans (EXCLUSIVE) |url=https://variety.com/2022/tv/global/nbc-news-uk-launch-sky-virgin-media-1235198633/ |access-date=15 December 2022 |work=Variety |date=March 2022}}

Rationale: This is a significant development in Oppenheim’s career as president of NBC News, as evidenced by the coverage in the most authoritative entertainment industry publication, Variety.

4. In the lead of the article, as the final sentence, please add:

Oppenheim stepped down as president of NBC News in January 2023 and entered into a film and TV production agreement with NBCUniversal. {{cite news |last1=Weprin |first1=Alex |title=NBC News Shake-Up: Noah Oppenheim Steps Down as News Group Restructures |url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/nbc-news-shakeup-noah-oppenheim-steps-down-news-group-restructures-1235268179/ |access-date=12 January 2023 |work=The Hollywood Reporter |date=11 January 2023}}

AND please add the following sentence to the end of the section paragraph of the Career section, NBC News subsection:

On January 11, 2023, NBC said that Oppenheim would be stepping down as president of NBC News and had entered into a film and TV production agreement with NBCUniversal. According to Variety (magazine), Oppenheim expanded NBC News during his tenure, including by introducing streaming services, podcasts and digital products based on the morning show Today. He also hired many print journalists for its digital and traditional news operations and “helped steady” the Today show.{{cite news |last1=Steinberg |first1=Brian |title=Noah Oppenheim Leaves NBC News in Unorthodox Shake-Up |url=https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/noah-oppenheim-leaves-nbc-news-reorganization-rebecca-blumenstein-1235486142/ |access-date=31 March 2023 |work=Variety |date=11 January 2023}}{{cite news |last1=Weprin |first1=Alex |title=NBC News Shake-Up: Noah Oppenheim Steps Down as News Group Restructures |url=https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/nbc-news-shakeup-noah-oppenheim-steps-down-news-group-restructures-1235268179/ |access-date=31 March 2023 |work=Hollywood Reporter |date=11 January 2023}}

Rationale: This is a self-evidently major development in Oppenheim’s career, and belongs both in the body of the article and the lead. BC1278 (talk) 19:57, 12 January 2023 (UTC) BC1278 (talk) 19:57, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

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:File:Pictogram voting keep.svg Go ahead: I have reviewed these proposed changes and suggest that you go ahead and make the proposed changes to the page. Go ahead, but please omit references 4 and 6 as IMDb is not a proper source. Best regards, -- Johannes (Talk) (Contribs) (Articles) 07:54, 29 April 2023 (UTC)