Talk:Pakistan#Regional power

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Name of prime minister is haseeb Ahmad 2A02:C7C:EEA7:F000:84FC:F7BA:1A45:3BE7 (talk) 01:13, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

: Not true.[https://www.pmo.gov.pk] Rainsage (talk) 02:24, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

:Good 103.152.43.137 (talk) 19:14, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi, I see, there is a redundancy in the Demographics section (caused by the excerpt from the article Demographics of Pakistan) regarding the proportion of ethnolinguistic groups. In the last paragraph of the excerpt, it runs;

"... Despite Urdu being Pakistan's lingua franca, estimates on how many languages are spoken in the country range from 75 to 85, and in 2023, the country's three largest ethnolinguistic groups were the Punjabis (making up 36.98% of the total population), the Pashtuns (18.15%), and the Sindhis (14.31%). ..."

As we already have this in a subsection Ethnicity and languages in a chart and;

"Pakistan is a diverse society with estimates suggesting it has between 75 and 85 languages. ...According to the 2023 national census, the largest ethnolinguistic groups include the Punjabis (36.98%), Pashtuns (18.15%), Sindhis (14.31%), ..."

We can also mention Urdu as the country's lingua france in the subsection Ethnicity and languages. Does anyone have a better idea to fix this (possibly by re-writing the lead in the demographics article or some other arrangement here for the section)? Thanks. MŠLQr (talk) 08:02, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

:Shoukd be fixed....just copy pasted what is needed Wikipedia:WikiProject Countries#Transclusions Moxy🍁 08:27, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

::I've moved the sentence from lead to section in the demographics article to avoid repetition here. MŠLQr (talk) 07:40, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

@SheriffsInTown on what basis it ranks "sixth". On which page IISS-2024 mention this? Are not we ranking on the basis of active military personnel? MŠLQr (talk) 14:28, 10 April 2025 (UTC)

:Please see Active military personnel;{{cite book|author=IISS|title=The Military Balance:2024 |date=2024 |publisher=Routledge - Taylor & Francis Group |isbn=978-1-032-78004-7 |pages=16, 158, 218, 542-545 |url=https://www.tandfonline.com/toc/tmib20/124/1 }}

1. China – 2,035,000
2. India – 1,475,750
3. US – 1,326,050
4. North Korea – 1,280,000
5. Russia – 1,100,000
6. Ukraine – 800,000
7. Pakistan – 660,000

MŠLQr (talk) 17:18, 10 April 2025 (UTC)

:@SheriffIsInTown, Thank you for [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pakistan&diff=prev&oldid=1284947583 the edit], I saw this had been wrong for a year. Best Wishes. MŠLQr (talk) 19:08, 10 April 2025 (UTC)

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@JayFT047 This article does not need further expansion. It was originally 16,000 prose words, and I spent months reducing it to 10,000. Now, you have started expanding it again, and it is already approaching 11,000 prose words. Please check the lengths of the India and United States articles. History of Pakistan is the main article; this article only needs to contain a summary. A perfect summary already existed here. Moreover, content copied from another article might not align with the sources, and copying it without verification could introduce issues into this article. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 01:09, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

:I see my bad, I didn’t realize it was getting that long again. I’ll go ahead and trim it back a bit. Thanks for pointing it out. By the way, can we remove the “Contains special characters | Urdu” tag after the infobox? I noticed that it’s affecting the layout, specifically, the images in the history section aren’t showing up in the correct places because of it. JayFT047 (talk) 01:21, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

I was going through the article and found it surprising that there's no mention about groups like Jaish-e-Mohammed or Lashkar-e-Taiba, which are confimred to be present in Pakistan until 2019. Information about the 2011 U.S. raid on a compound in Abbottabad that killed Osama bin Laden is also not mentioned. These are the major events and organizations that shaped both Pakistan’s internal dynamics and its relations with other countries, especially in the context of terrorism, counter terrorism and the security of the country. Is there a specific reason why they are not mentioned anywhere in the article? Or have they were never added? I believe a brief, balanced mention with reliable sources could make the article more complete. -- Truth Layer 123 (talk) 19:33, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

:@Wikibear47 Hey, I brought up a genuine question on the talk page about why major events like the killing of Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad and the role of some well recognized militant groups aren’t mentioned in the article. These are widely reported via "n number" of reliable sources and have shaped international perception of not just Pakistan but also global history in recent years.

:Removing a comment from a talk page without any explanation goes against Wikipedia’s guidelines (see WP:TALK). Unless something is offensive or clearly violates policy, discussions like this should stay so others can weigh in. Truth Layer 123 (talk) 14:48, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

::@Truth Layer 123 Why should all these names be part of a country article when an entire article already exists Pakistan and state-sponsored terrorism about the same topic? Wikibear47 (talk) 15:10, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

:::There is a reason that separate articles like these exist. In them your above mentioned concerns are briefly addressed. Wikibear47 (talk) 15:12, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

::::@Wikibear47 Other country pages like Afghanistan, Iran, and Palestine include short summaries of major events, such as wars, foreign interventions, or militant activity; along with links to more detailed main articles. But in this article, some very significant developments are completely missing.

::::For example:

::::* The 2011 U.S. raid which killed Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad,

::::* The confirmed presence of the groups like Jaish-e-Mohammed and Lashkar-e-Taiba until at least 2019,

::::* Large-scale military operations like Zarb-e-Azb, that aimed at clearing militants from the country.

::::I get that there’s already a separate article on Pakistan and state-sponsored terrorism, but I still feel like the main Pakistan page could at least mention these key events, even just a short line with a "Main article" link. Other country pages do that too, and it helps provide a clearer picture for readers.

::::Not saying it needs a deep dive, just that leaving out major stuff like that makes the article feel a bit incomplete, especially given how much those events have shaped Pakistan’s recent history and international reputation. Truth Layer 123 (talk) 08:47, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Update the GDP and GDP per capita ,PPP and PPP per capita figure from the 2025 data 14.192.131.195 (talk) 15:49, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

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I want to correct the GDP Nominal of Pakistan which is 411 billion dollars according to the latest report. In your other page it is corrected.{{cite web | url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal) | title=List of countries by GDP (Nominal) }} 103.149.33.163 (talk) 16:35, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

:{{Not done}}: Please use a different citation. We can't use other Wikipedia articles as citations. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 16:53, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

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