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|author = Emma Bowman
|title = What is a recession? Wikipedia can't decide
|date = July 29, 2022
|org = NPR
|url = https://www.npr.org/2022/07/29/1114599942/wikipedia-recession-edits
| author2 = Christine Mui
| url2 = https://fortune.com/2022/07/29/wikipedia-recession-definition-debate-partial-blocking-new-users/
| title2 = The recession debate is so intense that Wikipedia has blocked new users from editing its recession page because people keep changing the definition
| date2 = July 29, 2022
| org2 = Fortune
| url3 = https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/courage-strength-optimism/wikipedia-restricts-edits-to-recession-page-after-biden-denial-of-definition
| title3 = Wikipedia restricts edits to 'recession' page after Biden denial of definition
| date3 = July 29, 2022
| org3 = Washington Examiner
| author3 = Christopher Hutton
| author4 = James Bickerton
| title4 = Wikipedia Suspends Editing of Recession Page as Biden Rejects Claims
| date4 = July 29, 2022
| org4 = Newsweek
| url4 = https://www.newsweek.com/wikipedia-editing-recession-joe-biden-rejects-claims-economy-1729065
| url5 = https://www.mediaite.com/politics/wikipedia-suspends-editing-recession-page-after-users-furiously-debate-definition/
| title5 = Wikipedia Suspends Editing ‘Recession’ Page After Users Furiously Debate Definition
| date5 = July 29, 2022
| org5 = Mediaite
| author5 = Zachary Leeman
| url6 = https://idahonews.com/news/nation-world/wikipedia-freezes-edits-to-definition-of-recession-after-editors-try-to-align-with-biden
| title6 = Wikipedia freezes edits to 'recession' entry after editors try to align with Biden
| date6 = July 29, 2022
| org6 = KBOI-TV
| author6 = Alec Schemmel
| title7 = Wikipedia Blocks Some Users From Editing Its ‘Recession’ Page
| date7 = August 2, 2022
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| author7 = Clara Hernanz Lizarraga
| title8 = Wikipedia launching new restrictions for users editing ‘recession’ page
| date8 = August 2, 2022
| author8 = Brad Dress
| org8 = The Hill
| url8 = https://thehill.com/homenews/media/3585404-wikipedia-launching-new-restrictions-for-users-editing-recession-page/
| title9 = Misleading: Wikipedia changed the definition of recession to favor U.S. President Joe Biden.
| date9 = August 2, 2022
| author9 = Gayathri Loka
| org9 = Logically
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| title10 = Wikipedia restricting new users from editing 'recession' page
| date10 = August 3, 2022
| author10 = Phillip Nieto
| org10 = Fox Business
| url10 = https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/wikipedia-restricting-new-users-editing-recession-page
| title11 = Wikipedia stops some users from editing its ‘Recession’ page due to large amounts of ‘nonsense and vitriol’
| date11 = August 3, 2022
| author11= Weston Blasi
| org11 = MarketWatch
| url11 = https://www.marketwatch.com/story/wikipedia-stops-some-users-from-editing-its-recession-page-due-to-large-amounts-of-nonsense-and-vitriol-11659548203
| title12 = Wikipedia changes editing rules for 'recession' page
| date12 = August 3, 2022
| author12= Julie Hyman and Brian Sozzi
| org12 = Yahoo! Finance
| url12 = https://finance.yahoo.com/video/wikipedia-changes-editing-rules-recession-150535332.html
| title13 = Wikipedia Is Restricting Editing on Its 'Recession' Page Due to Arguing
| date13 = August 3, 2022
| author13= Gabrielle Bienasz
| org13 = Entrepreneur
| url13 = https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/432670
| title14 = Judges rely on Wikipedia for their opinions, a new study finds
| date14 = August 5, 2022
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| org14 = The Washington Post
| title15 = Wikipedia has become a tool of the Left in the battle to control the truth
| date15 = August 8, 2022
| author15= Andrew Orlowski
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| org15 = The Telegraph
| title16 = How a False Claim About Wikipedia Sparked a Right-Wing Media Frenzy
| date16 = August 11, 2022
| author16= Samuel Breslow
| url16 = https://slate.com/technology/2022/08/wikipedia-recession-article.html
| org16 = Slate
| title17 = Are We in a Recession? Don't Ask Wikipedia
| date17 = August 2, 2022
| author17= Stephen L. Carter
| url17 = https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2022-08-02/are-we-in-a-recession-don-t-ask-wikipedia
| org17 = Bloomberg News
| title18 = Wikipedia’s Jimmy Wales on online toxicity, Musk, and the battle for internet accuracy
| date18 = November 21, 2022
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|author19 = Gareth Corfield
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| url = https://www.dailywire.com/news/wikipedias-recession-page-shows-41-edits-in-one-week-attempts-at-changing-definition
| title = Wikipedia’s ‘Recession’ Page Shows 41 Edits In One Week, Attempts At Changing Definition
| site = The Daily Wire
| date = July 28, 2022
| url2 = https://www.outkick.com/wikipedias-bans-edits-to-recession-page/
| title2 = Wikipedia Bans Edits to ‘Recession’ Page
| date2 = July 28, 2022
| site2 = OutKick
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| title3 = WIKI TWEAKS: 41 Edits Made to Wikipedia's 'Recession' Page in One Week
| date3 = July 28, 2022
| site3 = Hannity.com
| url4 = https://thepostmillennial.com/wikipedia-redefines-recession-to-resemble-bidens-changes-then-locks-page-to-new-edits
| title4 = Wikipedia redefines 'recession' to resemble Biden's changes—then locks page to new edits
| date4 = July 28, 2022
| site4 = The Post Millennial
| url5 = https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11060135/Wikipedia-SUSPENDS-edits-recession-page-woke-users-changed-definition-Bidens.html
| title5 = Wikipedia joins in the gaslighting! Online encyclopedia SUSPENDS edits to its 'recession' page after woke users changed definition to align with Biden's claim that the US isn't in one
| date5 = July 28, 2022
| site5 = Daily Mail
| url6 = https://dailycaller.com/2022/07/28/wikipedia-change-definition-recession/
| title6 = Wikipedia Attempts To Change The Definition Of ‘Recession’ 41 Times
| date6 = July 28, 2022
| site6 = The Daily Caller
| url7 = https://nypost.com/2022/07/29/elon-musk-blasts-wikipedia-after-it-suspends-edits-of-recession-page/
| title7 = Elon Musk blasts Wikipedia after it suspends edits of 'recession' page
| date7 = July 29, 2022
| site7 = New York Post
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I thought a recession was two consecutive quarters not “a couple of months” 2600:6C40:1900:5B78:8CD7:8FEF:FC7A:109B (talk) 17:39, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
:Indeed the article lead says "two consecutive quarters of decline in a country's real gross domestic product (real GDP) is commonly used as a practical definition of a recession". Where did you get "couple of months" from? The article does not have that text. – wbm1058 (talk) 16:54, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
::A quote from the introduction: "In the United States, a recession is defined by the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) as "a significant decline in economic activity spread across the market, lasting more than a few months" – 'Significantly' and 'lasting more than a few months'. Probably wise economists have written much about the meaning of these words to civilize the American people that live in the middle of poor information, that is, advertisements. 17:34, 7 October 2022 (UTC) Jari Rauma (talk) 17:34, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
:::why is NBER the authoritative source? Foxhoundz (talk) 21:09, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
"a fall in GDP for two consecutive quarters"
is not a global definition and should be removed from its current position at the top of the lead soibangla (talk) 15:59, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
:I agree, I reverted. The lead has been the subject of extensive discussion on this talk page, including RFCs. We need to respect the outcomes of those discussions. MrOllie (talk) 16:21, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
:It's the global/scholar definition. Same everywhere.
:If you change it, you may delete the "historical" part. 2A01:CB00:118C:7600:C98B:AC57:F341:3904 (talk) 09:55, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
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GDP revisions today
show the 2022 two consecutive quarters of negative GDP growth "recession" has been revised away
it never happened after all
now they tall us
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1uopw soibangla (talk) 22:32, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
:Wow, that kerfuffle feels like such a long time ago. A good example of why recession is a retroactively-defined concept by economists Andre🚐 22:55, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
Recession indicator tracker?
Is there a reason that the article has a live tracker? It feels a bit odd for an encyclopedia article, and it's going to be a bit of a maintenance task. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 16:15, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
US politics
This is an article about the concept of a recession globablly. That little interlude about how presidents are blamed for recessions and the Early 1980s recession in the United States does not deserve a whole section. I feel it would be best to integrate it into history.--Bellerophon5685 (talk) 20:38, 27 March 2025 (UTC)